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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 16, 2018 23:23:06 GMT
The only A-list character in X-men is Wolverine. The team X-men is A-list. Meaning: it doesn't matter who is on the team, as long as they are the X-men. Well, maybe if they have 1 or 2 mainstays. But wait, by what you say, even the team X-men aren't A-listers because they interact with othe Marvel characters in the comics. Also, you are saying because the MCU is a cinematic universe that none of those characters can be A-listers (funny that you mention Batman and Superman when they've been in a cinematic universe for the last 5 years). But the X-men are in a cinematic universe. The problem is is that Fox can't get the other movies going. The New Mutants isn't a spin-off. It's a part of that universe. Gambit wouldn't have been a spin-off because he is not the same character that was in X-men Origins. Same with Deadpool not being the same character that was in X-men Origins. Another character you mentioned was Spider-man. A character Sony was making into a cinematic universe and is still making into a cinematic universe with Venom and Black Cat and the Silver Sable movies. By the way, Sony really screwed Insomniac when it came to the PS4 game and Black Cat and another character. Another thing, Wesley Snipes wants to put Blade into the MCU. Does that not make him an A-lister by your standards now? Blade was never an A-lister. And kid, The Avengers have surpassed the X-men in the movies when it comes to popularity. Blame Fox for crappy characterization. And faux hype. Is that your new thing for people liking characters more than the ones you want them to like? Hmm,
1- batman and superman never needed a cinematic universe
2. xmen have no cinematic universe but spin off.
Kids, right that is who avengers appeal to and that is why they will never surpass xmen, batman, superman or spiderman. they are for kids. their mythology has no substance. its all cgi. they have no other thing gong for them, even their movies made the genre so hated, and unpopular.
kids grow up get into the adult stuff. if the avengers have surpassed spiderman or even xmen why are all their movies comedic and not taken seriously? why cant their fans let other be. avengers hated by grown ups, hated by long time comic fans, hated by most film makers.. what avengers movie is considered better logan or dofp or spiderman 2. the only thing avengers surpassed is Transformers
reply back when avengers surpasses winter solider.... then we can see if they can even match it against DOFP or batman begins in movies.
Infinty war surpassed DOFP by been 96% CGI that is 90% story telling. LOL. I get why it was called a retarded version of that movie
when will avengers fans stop begging other join them? boring.
poor winter solider as usual.
Wait... Reading this again, I just realized how truly stupid you really are. X-men have no cinematic universe, but spin-offs? Spin-offs are a part of the movie universe they come from. You make it sound like the Wolverine movies starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine aren't a part of the X-men movies with the same actor as the same character. The Wolverine is a direct sequel to X3. The same as how The Wolverine goes right into DoFP. Just like how Thor Ragnarok goes right into Infinity War and Civil War goes right into Black Panther.
You are trying to sidestep stuff to make one thing different from the other when those things are really the same.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 16, 2018 23:39:48 GMT
bwhahahaha..
where...when..... geek and nerd culture considered cool? with mcu cgi brainless movies?
hahaha, no wonder star wars fans are so pissed aT disney. disney thought mcu star wars will make star wars look COOL. and what of star trek. that is a cool franchise as it as made many real contribution to society and even NASA
cool...dumb movies, they make you cool..NOT. they make you what they are. EMBARRASSING AND THE JOKE YOU REALLY ARE lol. cgi driven movies make you cool. so transformers spoken.
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? 6 decades? How old ARE you?
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:44:06 GMT
Hmm,
1- batman and superman never needed a cinematic universe
2. xmen have no cinematic universe but spin off.
Kids, right that is who avengers appeal to and that is why they will never surpass xmen, batman, superman or spiderman. they are for kids. their mythology has no substance. its all cgi. they have no other thing gong for them, even their movies made the genre so hated, and unpopular.
kids grow up get into the adult stuff. if the avengers have surpassed spiderman or even xmen why are all their movies comedic and not taken seriously? why cant their fans let other be. avengers hated by grown ups, hated by long time comic fans, hated by most film makers.. what avengers movie is considered better logan or dofp or spiderman 2. the only thing avengers surpassed is Transformers
reply back when avengers surpasses winter solider.... then we can see if they can even match it against DOFP or batman begins in movies.
Infinty war surpassed DOFP by been 96% CGI that is 90% story telling. LOL. I get why it was called a retarded version of that movie
when will avengers fans stop begging other join them? boring.
poor winter solider as usual.
Wait... Reading this again, I just realized how truly stupid you really are. X-men have no cinematic universe, but spin-offs? Spin-offs are a part of the movie universe they come from. You make it sound like the Wolverine movies starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine aren't a part of the X-men movies with the same actor as the same character. The Wolverine is a direct sequel to X3. The same as how The Wolverine goes right into DoFP. Just like how Thor Ragnarok goes right into Infinity War and Civil War goes right into Black Panther.
You are trying to sidestep stuff to make one thing different from the other when those things are really the same.
thor jokenock in the same sentence as DOFP. yiesh. sorry can I stop laughing now at your desperate garbage lies to defend your zlisters? Just so you know ,TDK got oscar recognition not because ledger died and there was a shooting...though the shooting was in tdkr era, which got no oscar nominations. real alisters earn their oscar norns, you have to buy them for zlisters and race bait.
ha, spoken like a fake xmen, still embarrassing to admit you like avengers and the mcu? xmen have no cinematic universe because it is one IP. xmen characters are not and should not crossover with non mutants. that becomes a cinematic universe. they have spin offs, logan, deadpool both movies disgraced and all surpassed all the mcu man child movies. yawn, if only tony took his depression seriously like logan did in logan. heck even deadpool that is satire comedy, took his cancer seriously.
Don't worry i have stop laughing at infinity war surpassing DOFP since there are few did not call a a dumb ass version of that movie though they did call it harmful to cinema. that surpasses Michael bay transformers.
Poor mcu zlisters.. trying to buy oscars, trying to force xmen to join the mcu, trying to hijack spiderman's game, still mad at TDK after 10 years. guess that is what happens when your movies are parodies and your characters have no real identity that what disney feeds them.
yawn...so where can I watch a good mcu cartoon. this is the best they have..and its shitty. kids deserve better
a listers get this
heck even this
A listers excel in every medium any day, anytime and also this cartoons dont even have link to any movies....poor mcu disney they cant even excel with their comedy 96% cgi movies that destroyed the reputation of comic movies
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:51:01 GMT
worst part is disney at their core make cartoons. lol
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:58:08 GMT
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? 6 decades? How old ARE you? you should be talking about how lucas called disney white slavers and he felt like a parent selling star wars into slavery. SHOCKING HUH
that was when I knew mcu disney star wars was going to fail. which also puts me back on the a list discussion.
a listerS inspire since their mythologies are excellent . See black panther trying to get some from first class. star wars fans wanted a logan for Luke in last jedi, instead they got an mcu movie and lost their minds. I mean where did star wars fans notice all those silly jokes and bizzare poor story telling or lack there off....hm. mcu disney movies right.
poor mcu fans. they have the worst way of finding out their movies are not actually popular to actual real people either it is star wars telling them or oscars cancelling the popular category award disney tried to create for their z listers since they cant earn it like batman or xmen who are real a listers and have proven themselves for decades even more than 6. LMAO
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 17, 2018 4:58:44 GMT
6 decades? How old ARE you? you should be talking about how lucas called disney white slavers and he felt like a parent selling star wars into slavery. SHOCKING HUH
that was when I knew mcu disney star wars was going to fail. which also puts me back on the a list discussion.
a listerS inspire since their mythologies are excellent . See black panther trying to get some from first class. star wars fans wanted a logan for Luke in last jedi, instead they got an mcu movie and lost their minds. I mean where did star wars fans notice all those silly jokes and bizzare poor story telling or lack there off....hm. mcu disney movies right.
poor mcu fans. they have the worst way of finding out their movies are not actually popular to actual real people either it is star wars telling them or oscar cancelling the popular category award disney tried to create for their z listers since they can earn like the batman or xmen who are real a listers and have proven themselves for decades even more than 6. LMAO
Your writing is like a cut and paste ransom note from a serial killer trapped in a bad 90s crime thriller.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Sept 17, 2018 5:12:46 GMT
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right?Dear, Madame. You are a soldier of the apocalypse. Death Man is honored to share virtual space with you. If you every get tired of slapping around the man children on this board, I can show you another place where the sun shines on the fandom eternally. Especially for doxxers. Because, as everyone knows, it's okay to do that to someone if you disagree with them about movies!!!1 Hee. Hee. Hee.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 17, 2018 5:22:52 GMT
Dear, Madame. You are a soldier of the apocalypse. Death Man is honored to share virtual space with you. If you every get tired of slapping around the man children on this board, I can show you another place where the sun shines on the fandom eternally. Especially for doxxers. Because, as everyone knows, it's okay to do that to someone if you disagree with them about movies!!!1 Hee. Hee. Hee. Well all right then. Basically.
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Post by mog1138 on Sept 17, 2018 15:26:03 GMT
Just think folks, we haven't even gotten so much of a MCU movie announcement for X-Men and summers8 is firing crazy on all cylinders. It's like he thinks he can discredit the MCU hard enough, people will hate Marvel by the time MCU X-Men comes out. I shudder to think when they announce the cast.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 17, 2018 15:58:10 GMT
Just think folks, we haven't even gotten so much of a MCU movie announcement for X-Men and summers8 is firing crazy on all cylinders. It's like he thinks he can discredit the MCU hard enough, people will hate Marvel by the time MCU X-Men comes out. I shudder to think when they announce the cast. Marvel Studios may not even get around to making X-Men films for another decade or more. The property needs a long rest and Kevin knows that. Summers is massively butthurt over something that hasn't happened yet and he says we're the crazy ones. Looks like when you're a staunch MCU hater, you've got to get your excuses in for multiple possible scenarios, years in advance.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 17, 2018 16:06:14 GMT
Just think folks, we haven't even gotten so much of a MCU movie announcement for X-Men and summers8 is firing crazy on all cylinders. It's like he thinks he can discredit the MCU hard enough, people will hate Marvel by the time MCU X-Men comes out. I shudder to think when they announce the cast. summers8 has always been an MCU hater but he's completely gone off the rails ever since Disney officially acquired the X-men franchise.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 17, 2018 16:10:46 GMT
bwhahahaha..
where...when..... geek and nerd culture considered cool? with mcu cgi brainless movies?
hahaha, no wonder star wars fans are so pissed aT disney. disney thought mcu star wars will make star wars look COOL. and what of star trek. that is a cool franchise as it as made many real contribution to society and even NASA
cool...dumb movies, they make you cool..NOT. they make you what they are. EMBARRASSING AND THE JOKE YOU REALLY ARE lol. cgi driven movies make you cool. so transformers spoken.
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? Man the Star Wars and Star Trek fan flame war is easily in my top 5 fandom fights. I once went to a convention where a dude dressed as Captain Kirk got into a fist fight with a dude dressed as Han Solo.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 17, 2018 17:32:00 GMT
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? Man the Star Wars and Star Trek fan flame war is easily in my top 5 fandom fights. I once went to a convention where a dude dressed as Captain Kirk got into a fist fight with a dude dressed as Han Solo. Was it over a girl? Knowing those two...
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 17:36:04 GMT
star wars is still cool..just not star wars.
in fact xmen mcu wil be the new last jedi....
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 17, 2018 17:36:32 GMT
Man the Star Wars and Star Trek fan flame war is easily in my top 5 fandom fights. I once went to a convention where a dude dressed as Captain Kirk got into a fist fight with a dude dressed as Han Solo. Was it over a girl? Knowing those two... lmao I'm not exactly sure what or who started the fight. All I know is that the two of them were escorted out of there by the police. There might be pictures out there on the interwebs.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 17, 2018 17:36:58 GMT
star wars is still cool..just not dc star wars. in fact xmen mcu wil be the new last jedi.... Yeah, DC Star Wars is the worst... So grim and cheerless.
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Post by merh on Sept 18, 2018 0:39:01 GMT
Whenever I read something from summers, it makes me wonder just how young this guy probably is to be so immature... This goes back to IMDb. The trolls always insisted Marvel was aimed at children, yet when I was hanging out on the Dark Knight Rises board, it was full of teens. Threads about if one would do this or that Batman actress anal, high school stuff-teacher complaints & the like. (I was taken aback someone actually made a thread "Tell me to do my homework") I remember one thread asking how colleges would get his email to pitch his attending them. I only started visiting it because the Avengers board was full of questions about DC comics & the Burton Batman so every time someone asked why didnt they post on TDKR board, the answer was invariably it was an insufferable wasteland of immaturity where any suggestion that anything other than Batman in the Nolan incarnation was shouted down. So I visited & found that to be true
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Post by merh on Sept 18, 2018 0:56:38 GMT
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? 6 decades? How old ARE you? I am 58. I remember watching Addams Family & Munsters at a house we moved away from during my Kindergarten year so I had to be 4 or 5. I remember sitting in the car while my sister told me ghost stories while mom shopped. So I have loved fantasy stuff as far back as I remember. The 60s were strange. Tv was full of westerns or fantasy-Batman, Man From UNCLE, Outer Limits, It's About Time, My Mother the Car(I was 5. It worked) Captain Nice. Mr. Terrific, Wild, Wild West... I grew up in the Inland Empire in the 60s so we got all the LA. stations. Shrimpenstein was a favorite kid's show-
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Post by merh on Sept 18, 2018 1:01:20 GMT
Lucas did his share to destroy Star Wars remaking the films & with the prequels Dude, back when Star Wars came out my 17 yr old ass joined the sci fi club at my sister's college. Back then Star Trek fans sneered at Star Wars as fluff, a space opera, not hard science like Star Trek. And the rest of movie going public sneered at the Trekkies as nerds. At least Star Wars was fun You are failing to make your point. I've circled this stuff for almost 6 decades. Got married. Had to cut back some to spend time with the hubby. Had a kid. That ate a BUNCH of my time in the 90s. Became a widow/single mom in 2001. Still found some time for this stuff, though got to pay the bills, right? Man the Star Wars and Star Trek fan flame war is easily in my top 5 fandom fights. I once went to a convention where a dude dressed as Captain Kirk got into a fist fight with a dude dressed as Han Solo. It still comes up. I remember running into a Trekkie sometime since 2000 who distained Star Wars. Star Trek is Real Science!!! Yeah, thats why the gals were dressed in as little as possible. The Air Force would send women to fight in next to nothing...
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Post by merh on Sept 18, 2018 1:02:51 GMT
Dear, Madame. You are a soldier of the apocalypse. Death Man is honored to share virtual space with you. If you every get tired of slapping around the man children on this board, I can show you another place where the sun shines on the fandom eternally. Especially for doxxers. Because, as everyone knows, it's okay to do that to someone if you disagree with them about movies!!!1 Hee. Hee. Hee. I thought he was offering another board. Or being chivalrous
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