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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2018 21:05:09 GMT
I’m not usually one to attempt to judge a movie before it even came out, but—look at this!
It looks awful. Awful. Awful awful awful awful awful. Listen to how terrible that dialogue is. God. Listen to those jokes. Listen to how bad that music is, how bad that costume is, how bad what’s-his-name Captain Marvel is. Look at how that one scene with the ski-mask-wearing burglars steals off a scene in Spider-Man: Homecoming that wasn’t all that funny to begin with.
I’m sorry. Maybe it’ll be great. But that trailer’s one of the worst things I’ve seen for a big-budget movie in a long time.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 19, 2018 21:09:54 GMT
So you'll be seeing it on opening night I'm guessing.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2018 21:10:29 GMT
So you'll be seeing it on opening night I'm guessing. INNIT?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2018 21:49:19 GMT
You’re uh...a couple months late there, don’t you think?
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2018 21:50:58 GMT
You’re uh...a couple months late there, don’t you think? Me? Probably. I don’t watch trailers, so I only saw this one for the first time when I went to the movie-theater the other day. Ehh. Getting it off my chest and all that.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 19, 2018 23:55:12 GMT
If it helps, I read that the costume will still be altered from the trailer to the final film. Not simply a glowing light, and a deeper, different red textured effect on the main suit. The rest....🤷♂️
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Post by scabab on Sept 20, 2018 0:20:14 GMT
The suit is the only thing I like the look of so far.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 20, 2018 8:19:09 GMT
No, it does not.
All depends on the writing here. The basic concept is intriguing and has potential. If this is written as a heartfelt family comedy, witout cynicism but about character, friendship and our place in life, this could be a great contribution to the canon. And different.
If it's just a stupid action comedy pandering to the lowest common denominator, well then archive it with Batman & Robin and Guardians.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 20, 2018 14:59:08 GMT
It looks alright to me but I’m admittedly concerned about how they’re gonna juggle the ‘Big’ styled kids adventure stuff with Mark Strong’s Doctor Sivana (yeah remember he’s in this?) and whatever his evil scheme is.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 20, 2018 15:06:37 GMT
No, it does not.
All depends on the writing here. The basic concept is intriguing and has potential. If this is written as a heartfelt family comedy, witout cynicism but about character, friendship and our place in life, this could be a great contribution to the canon. And different.
If it's just a stupid action comedy pandering to the lowest common denominator, well then archive it with Batman & Robin and Guardians. The concept does have potential, but I’m only basing my comments on the trailer. That trailer, at least to me, seems cynical, modern, base, and terribly unfunny.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 20, 2018 15:50:50 GMT
No, it does not.
All depends on the writing here. The basic concept is intriguing and has potential. If this is written as a heartfelt family comedy, witout cynicism but about character, friendship and our place in life, this could be a great contribution to the canon. And different.
If it's just a stupid action comedy pandering to the lowest common denominator, well then archive it with Batman & Robin and Guardians. The concept does have potential, but I’m only basing my comments on the trailer. That trailer, at least to me, seems cynical, modern, base, and terribly unfunny. Conversely, I found it old-school, fun in an innocent/child-like way and un-cynical - but obviously that lies in the eye of the beholder. I wonder what your frame of reference is, remember the funny Guardians video I posted where they engaged in feces-size bragging? That is where I am comming from.
The music sucked though, I give you that.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 20, 2018 15:58:41 GMT
Hopefully the CGI will look better.
I really don't want another Black Panther mess.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 20, 2018 16:22:03 GMT
Conversely, I found it old-school, fun in an innocent/child-like way and un-cynical - but obviously that lies in the eye of the beholder. I wonder what your frame of reference is, remember the funny Guardians video I posted where they engaged in feces-size bragging? That is where I am comming from.
The music sucked though, I give you that.
As you say, all that lies in the eye of the beholder, but I am surprised. That clip you showed me came to mind when I watched this: “real Game of Thrones around here,” “Shazam *sniffle* sniffle* sniffle*,” “dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing,” “your phone’s charged, your phone’s charged,” “you’re like a bad guy, right?,” “you’re welcome for not getting robbed,” “what’s up? I’m a superhero.” And Mr. Levi coming across (to me, at least) as Adam Sandler in tights. It just seems exactly what you were criticizing about that Guardians video.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 20, 2018 16:38:01 GMT
Conversely, I found it old-school, fun in an innocent/child-like way and un-cynical - but obviously that lies in the eye of the beholder. I wonder what your frame of reference is, remember the funny Guardians video I posted where they engaged in feces-size bragging? That is where I am comming from.
The music sucked though, I give you that.
As you say, all that lies in the eye of the beholder, but I am surprised. That clip you showed me came to mind when I watched this: “real Game of Thrones around here,” “Shazam *sniffle* sniffle* sniffle*,” “dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing,” “your phone’s charged, your phone’s charged,” “you’re like a bad guy, right?,” “you’re welcome for not getting robbed,” “what’s up? I’m a superhero.” And Mr. Levi coming across (to me, at least) as Adam Sandler in tights. It just seems exactly what you were criticizing about that Guardians video.not in the least, there is nuance. The only thing I see that might correlate is "dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing" - not elegant, but natural dialogue between kids in such a situation. Gets a 3/10 on the bad dislogue scale. Not a deal breaker (unless this kind of dialogue is frequent).
The dialogue comes from character and situations, and is not just random depravity for its own sake. But lets compare it to some of the infamous dialogue from Guardians Vol 2:
If Shazam come remotely close the idiotic depravity of this, we can talk "terrible".
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 20, 2018 16:46:12 GMT
‘K.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 20, 2018 17:52:35 GMT
I’m not usually one to attempt to judge a movie before it even came out, but— look at this! It looks awful. Awful. Awful awful awful awful awful. Listen to how terrible that dialogue is. God. Listen to those jokes. Listen to how bad that music is, how bad that costume is, how bad what’s-his-name Captain Marvel is. Look at how that one scene with the ski-mask-wearing burglars steals off a scene in Spider-Man: Homecoming that wasn’t all that funny to begin with. I’m sorry. Maybe it’ll be great. But that trailer’s one of the worst things I’ve seen for a big-budget movie in a long time. I wanted to like this. I really, really, really wanted to like it... I was lukewarm on the trailer when it debuted but, repeated viewings have left me bereft of hope for this film. I'm a huge fan of DC's characters on the magic side and Shazam has always been in my top 5 favorite characters from that grouping but, this is not what the character's first big-screen adaptation (in nearly 80 years) should have been. It should have been more epic and awe-inspiring. I've never seen the concept of lightning and otherworldy magic look more mundane and lackluster. While the execution of the CGI is serviceable, the design of it is deeply uninspired. This is not the Shazam I'd envisioned from Waid's Kingdom Come or Ordway's the Power of Shazam. The filmmakers have made no effort to capture the imposing and commanding presence of Captain Marvel. They had a plethora of rich visual material to work from and all they could think to do was hand him a slurpy. Ironically enough, Zack Snyder could have worked miracles on this material visually. This is Shazam!
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 20, 2018 17:58:07 GMT
I was at the US Open a couple weeks ago, and in the stadium they were showing celebrities in the crowd between games while everyone cheered. They showed this guy, and even had his name (Zachary Levi) written on the screen, and everyone stopped cheering immediately. It was as if thousands of people just looked at each other and said, "Who the hell is that?" at once. It was pretty great.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 20, 2018 20:38:21 GMT
As you say, all that lies in the eye of the beholder, but I am surprised. That clip you showed me came to mind when I watched this: “real Game of Thrones around here,” “Shazam *sniffle* sniffle* sniffle*,” “dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing,” “your phone’s charged, your phone’s charged,” “you’re like a bad guy, right?,” “you’re welcome for not getting robbed,” “what’s up? I’m a superhero.” And Mr. Levi coming across (to me, at least) as Adam Sandler in tights. It just seems exactly what you were criticizing about that Guardians video.not in the least, there is nuance. The only thing I see that might correlate is "dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing" - not elegant, but natural dialogue between kids in such a situation. Gets a 3/10 on the bad dislogue scale. Not a deal breaker (unless this kind of dialogue is frequent).
But lets compare it to some of the infamous dialogue from Guardians Vol 2:
If Shazam come remotely close the idiotic depravity of this, we can talk "terrible".
Well you're just biased because you're a snowflake who let words hurt you. That all it is. You're also a drama queen considering you can't get over the turd/penis jokes even though there was only literally one of each in a two hour film but like to exaggerate as turd/penis jokes was all there was the entire film. The humor is no different between the two based on that trailer. You're just a biased DC fan, that's it.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 21, 2018 10:41:59 GMT
not in the least, there is nuance. The only thing I see that might correlate is "dude, I don’t even know how to pee in this thing" - not elegant, but natural dialogue between kids in such a situation. Gets a 3/10 on the bad dislogue scale. Not a deal breaker (unless this kind of dialogue is frequent).
But lets compare it to some of the infamous dialogue from Guardians Vol 2:
If Shazam come remotely close the idiotic depravity of this, we can talk "terrible".
Well you're just biased because you're a snowflake who let words hurt you. That all it is. You're also a drama queen considering you can't get over the turd/penis jokes even though there was only literally one of each in a two hour film but like to exaggerate as turd/penis jokes was all there was the entire film. The humor is no different between the two based on that trailer. You're just a biased DC fan, that's it. nuance is not you forte, pussycat. Don't believe in yourself, believe in me who believes in you! Keep beautiful.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 21, 2018 17:55:22 GMT
^ likes Iron Man 3
And no, it doesn’t.
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