WLC on why theory of biological evolution is better evidence for theism than atheism

This.

Considering how evolution actually works, not really, particularly in regards to vestigiality and junk DNA from previous generations. It would be kidna like designing a car with useless parts from models from previous years or making a computer program with a bunch of useless data that does nothing, certainly not the characteristics of an all knowing perfect "creator".

So in other words you're not going to address my actual points and just make useless character assasinations.

Because it the fact of evolution as it is understood by science doesn't require God or the lack of one to happen. 



We already know evolution occurs naturally.  So by definition it would not be a miracle. Do you think anytime bacteria gains resistance to a new antibiotic, it's God that is directly making that adaptation?

First off, evolution qua evolution tells you nothing about "how it got started" as a broader metaphysical issue.

Secondly, ignoring the nonsense of the idea of anything "supernatural," it's entirely possible--that is as a logical possibility--for there to be a God who set up a world where evolution was a non-necessary natural possibility (where it contingently turned out to obtain), and it's possible for evolution to have be set in motion via some supernatural means (again, ignoring whatever the heck "supernatural" is supposed to amount to, exactly), where it turns out that there's no entity like a god.  So you're not at all exhausting the logical possibilities in your comment above.

Aside from that, "miracle" is just a vague fantasy idea, so it's vacuous to say that anything would be "akin to a miracle" with respect to any concrete properties, and the notion of calculating "the chances of x occurring ," where there's no actual frequency data for multiple instantiations is just as much complete balderdash. (And even if there were frequency data, it doesn't necessarily follow that it signifies anything other than what contingently happened in those instances.)

So it's just ignorant nonsense to believe that evolution says anything about whether there's a god or not.

That seems to be the gist of it. Aside from there being no rationale for that, my problem with it is the nonsense of stating odds of evolution and particular evolutionary developments in the first place.

I'm not blaming that on WLC. Scientists frequently forward that nonsense (the Drake equation is an infamous example), but that's all it is. Nonsense.

How evolution got started is a whole different field of science than evolution itself.


But yes, abiogenesis happened either naturally or supernaturally.


No, it would not. It is entirely possible that a god created the universe, even that one acts within it as he or she chooses, and yet abiogenesis happened naturally without his or her intervention.

Similarly, it is entirely possible that god exists but that evolution continues completely naturally. Although, everything we know about evolution indicates that it happens without any divine or supernatural intervention.


Actually no, it wouldn't. It's possible that the supernatural exists, but that god or gods do not. For example, one could postulate that a ghost caused abiogenesis to happen. That doesn't mean the ghost is god, right?

And doing his usual stellar job of getting it all wrong, I'd wager. But no, I'm not watching it. I've had my fill of Craig idiocy and distortion for a while.

   Certainly as long as you have anything to do with it.