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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 1:29:34 GMT
....or are there some liberals amongst them?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 1:34:34 GMT
There's probably some liberals, but the general consensus is the majority skews right of center.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 1:44:03 GMT
There's probably some liberals, but the general consensus is the majority skews right of center. Does that make a serious point then about values and attitudes regarding militant behavior?
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Post by gameboy on Sept 21, 2018 2:09:27 GMT
I do recall captainbryce here is military. He's gay and liberal from what I can tell. The ones I've seen online are generally liberal. You have to remember the American military is drawn mostly from working class whites and blacks, not segments of the population one would expect to be Republican.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 21, 2018 2:22:50 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 2:30:50 GMT
I do recall captainbryce here is military. He's gay and liberal from what I can tell. The ones I've seen online are not generally liberal.You have to remember the American military is drawn mostly from working class whites and blacks, not segments of the population one would expect to be Republican. I think bryce has commented that he is bisexual. He is very flexible and open-minded. It just appears that the majority of those that are conservative\republican\right wing minded, seem to have more of an inclination or propensity to the defense force and the need for military guidance as a way of necessity.
Those that are rounded up to make up the cannon fodder, are probably apolitical and even dense bunnies who get easily led or fooled. There is no other way else to see this. Then there will be those that do believe in the conservative hogwash agenda that is spoon fed to them and due to either narcissistic or psychopathic personality traits blindly follow where the other blind are leading.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 2:31:43 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected. This doesn't even make sense, but I have never really expected you too.
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 21, 2018 2:39:00 GMT
During the course of my father's life, he was a drover, a soldier during WWII, a police officer and a male enrolled nurse...
And he always voted Labor, which is a left-wing political party in Australia.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 2:41:27 GMT
During the course of my father's life, he was a drover, a soldier during WWII, a police officer and a male enrolled nurse... And he always voted Labor, which is a left-wing political party in Australia. Would you say that era also has an influence? Labor in Australia has always had the strongest following, hence the Coalition, otherwise Labor would always win.
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 21, 2018 2:43:42 GMT
During the course of my father's life, he was a drover, a soldier during WWII, a police officer and a male enrolled nurse... And he always voted Labor, which is a left-wing political party in Australia. Would you say that era also has an influence? Labor in Australia has always had the strongest following, hence the Coalition, otherwise Labor would always win. I wouldn't know.
My father was born in 1919. I was born in 1968. He died in 1980.
I missed out on most of his life.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 21, 2018 2:47:12 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected. Trump was elected because, as a conman, he campaigned to an easiy conned nation So many Americans are idiots voting against their own interests
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 2:50:23 GMT
Would you say that era also has an influence? Labor in Australia has always had the strongest following, hence the Coalition, otherwise Labor would always win. I wouldn't know.
My father was born in 1919. I was born in 1968. He died in 1980.
I missed out on most of his life.
I would say values and lifestyles were different then. Working class 'were' working class and putting things together for purpose that was more tangible. Technological advancements were slower also many things still had novelty value. People weren't as savvy either I would say. They believed in what was spoon fed to them by the ruling establishment.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 2:51:27 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected. Trump was elected because, as a conman, he campaigned to an easiy conned nation So many Americans are idoits voting against their own interests And 'conned' is exactly what the herd buy into.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 21, 2018 2:55:26 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected. This doesn't even make sense, but I have never really expected you too. Of course you don't. I'm not white or a silly liberal. You just proved my point.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 21, 2018 2:57:07 GMT
The sheer obliviousness of white liberals to everyone and everything outside their silly white bubble is staggering. No wonder Trump was elected. Trump was elected because, as a conman, he campaigned to an easiy conned nation So many Americans are idoits voting against their own interests Yes they are and they are called liberals and they are white more often than not.
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Post by gameboy on Sept 21, 2018 3:01:59 GMT
I do recall captainbryce here is military. He's gay and liberal from what I can tell. The ones I've seen online are not generally liberal.You have to remember the American military is drawn mostly from working class whites and blacks, not segments of the population one would expect to be Republican. I think bryce has commented that he is bisexual. He is very flexible and open-minded. It just appears that the majority of those that are conservative\republican\right wing minded, seem to have more of an inclination or propensity to the defense force and the need for military guidance as a way of necessity.
Those that are rounded up to make up the cannon fodder, are probably apolitical and even dense bunnies who get easily led or fooled. There is no other way else to see this. Then there will be those that do believe in the conservative hogwash agenda that is spoon fed to them and due to either narcissistic or psychopathic personality traits blindly follow where the other blind are leading.
I would expect that those who go for long careers in the military are conservatives. They would make up the brass. I actually meant to say that the ones online are liberal! That was a typo. I don't know if you remember a gay black guy from IMDb named Glizziano aka illMATIC86. He was in the Air Force and stationed in Japan. He was also a virgin lol. That's one guy I met on these boards that I would have really liked to f**k in real life, kewl dude.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 21, 2018 3:03:38 GMT
This doesn't even make sense, but I have never really expected you too. Of course you don't. I'm not white or a silly liberal. You just proved my point. I think you are proving my point fool!
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Post by poelzig on Sept 21, 2018 3:34:55 GMT
I do recall captainbryce here is military. He's gay and liberal from what I can tell. The ones I've seen online are not generally liberal.You have to remember the American military is drawn mostly from working class whites and blacks, not segments of the population one would expect to be Republican. I think bryce has commented that he is bisexual. He is very flexible and open-minded. It just appears that the majority of those that are conservative\republican\right wing minded, seem to have more of an inclination or propensity to the defense force and the need for military guidance as a way of necessity.
Those that are rounded up to make up the cannon fodder, are probably apolitical and even dense bunnies who get easily led or fooled. There is no other way else to see this. Then there will be those that do believe in the conservative hogwash agenda that is spoon fed to them and due to either narcissistic or psychopathic personality traits blindly follow where the other blind are leading.
You probably don't think you're a bigot, huh? Way to prejudge people in the military. Let me guess despite the glaring proof you're not prejudiced either.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 21, 2018 4:01:42 GMT
I don't know what is mostly republican. Do you use mostly as in 90% military people are republican?
No. Military people just like people of other groups are diverse. They might lean more toward republican but they are not monolithic group. In a survey of who they would want as president this was how they indicated they would vote.
Trump vs Sanders 51% Trump, 38% Sanders (who is extreme left), 11 % no vote.
so you had 38% military people who wanted to vote leftist candidate/democrat party. 11% didn't want to vote. Only 1 out of 2 wanted to vote for republican.
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Post by gameboy on Sept 21, 2018 4:04:36 GMT
I don't know what is mostly republican. Do you use mostly as in 90% military people are republican? No. Military people just like other people of other groups are diverse. They might lean more toward republican but they are not monolithic group. In a survey of who they would want as president this was how they indicated they would vote. Trump vs Sanders 51% Trump, 38% Sanders (who is extreme left), 11 % no vote. so you had 38% military people who wanted to vote leftist candidate/democrat party. 11% didn't want to vote. Only 1 out of 2 wanted to vote for republican. Like I said, they're drawn from the lower classes so there would be a tendency towards liberalism on economic issues.
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