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Post by Nora on Sept 24, 2018 10:51:29 GMT
i also need to add crazy, insecure and with a very bad memory, to the list, pardon me. You forgot to add 'impressive' Nora, with his two degrees and second masters on the way.  I guess there is no keeping a good schmuck down. i applaud his efforts to obtain more education. it certainly is needed in this world. but even more education may not gonna redeem a person and make them better people. you know. as someone with 2 masters and a doctorate and a fresh label of being a bigot, racist and a misandrist I should know. so I just dont want sweet Poelzig to be disappointed when his issues perhaps are still there even with the second masters completed ;-) However, I genuinly hope Poelzig and I will be able to find peaceful terms of either respect or mutual ignorance of each other as I dont wish to bring more hate to here/anywhere. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 24, 2018 11:22:18 GMT
You forgot to add 'impressive' Nora, with his two degrees and second masters on the way. I guess there is no keeping a good schmuck down. i applaud his efforts to obtain more education. it certainly is needed in this world. but even more education may not gonna redeem a person and make them better people. you know. as someone with 2 masters and a doctorate and a fresh label of being a bigot, racist and a misandrist I should know. so I just dont want sweet Poelzig to be disappointed when his issues perhaps are still there even with the second masters completed ;-) However, I genuinly hope Poelzig and I will be able to find peaceful terms of either respect or mutual ignorance of each other as I dont wish to bring more hate to here/anywhere. It depends on what one is educating oneself on, how it is being served for the better good and memorizing things from textbooks doesn't always mean jack squat in the innate intelligence department.
The hate appears to breed from within him. It is not you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 11:54:13 GMT
Don't worry, there are plenty of others who share that belief and I'm sure there will be a great amount of preaching and confirmation going on when the meeting occurs. It doesn't change that reality is so much more complex than the generalizations we try to apply to it. The reality of the militant attitude, generalizations or not, creates more suffering and only becomes complex and complicated due to ignorance and lack of understanding of the mind. That is all it boils down too. And I couldn't agree with you more on that statement. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Sept 24, 2018 18:24:29 GMT
My father in law is a retired Colonel with the US Army.
He was a Republican until he started working in Washington and the Pentagon.
Has been a fervent Democrat ever since.
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Post by poelzig on Sept 24, 2018 19:50:20 GMT
Just when I thought you couldn't be more of a stereotype you open your doughy suck and spew this "Blah blah blah I hate white men even tho all my friends are white hypocrites like me blah blah blah did I mention white men are evil so I can't be a racist blah blah blah I especially hate American white men so again not a racist blah blah blah ." The only surprise was you didn't mention "Hey everyone hey look at me I review movies. Hello hello Everyone look over here I'm a movie reviewer for a free Belgian weekly newspaper. Granted every idiot with access to the internet is a movie reviewer now but....... yeah. Look at me" I have two degrees and I'm working on my second masters so hopefully I'll meet your superior white lady definition of well educated one day. In the meantime I couldn't help but notice with my inferior education that now that you know I'm not white you hammer me with the age old labels bigots assign to swarthy people. Ignorant, aggressive, vile, arrogant, bitter, entitled. Hmmm you NEVER said any of that when you thought I was a fellow whitey. Just a coincidence you spewed the vitriol now that you know I've got rhythm? Good thing you're not a bigot or you would have been trotting out the N word. Lucky for me you're just a sadly typical smug self loathing white liberal with a tendency towards misandry and denial. Like you said tho you can change. Better hurry tho sweetie. Time is not your ally. i also need to add crazy, insecure and with a very bad memory, to the list, pardon me. You spew a load of hateful racist vitriol and you're not only not embarrassed you're (as usual) bursting with smugness about it. I point out what a sad angry hypocrite you are and you spew more hatred. You're such a caricature with your passive aggressive anger, sickly pale skin and that big nose making your doughy face even tougher to look at. That gay guy seems to adore you tho. It's odd how stereotypes are spot on so often. |
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Post by Nora on Sept 24, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
i also need to add crazy, insecure and with a very bad memory, to the list, pardon me. You spew a load of hateful racist vitriol and you're not only not embarrassed you're (as usual) bursting with smugness about it. I point out what a sad angry hypocrite you are and you spew more hatred. You're such a caricature with your passive aggressive anger, sickly pale skin and that big nose making your doughy face even tougher to look at. That gay guy seems to adore you tho. It's odd how stereotypes are spot on so often. once again, you are funny. I appreciate it. I like funny people. |
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Post by poelzig on Sept 24, 2018 20:08:30 GMT
i applaud his efforts to obtain more education. it certainly is needed in this world. but even more education may not gonna redeem a person and make them better people. you know. as someone with 2 masters and a doctorate and a fresh label of being a bigot, racist and a misandrist I should know. so I just dont want sweet Poelzig to be disappointed when his issues perhaps are still there even with the second masters completed ;-) However, I genuinly hope Poelzig and I will be able to find peaceful terms of either respect or mutual ignorance of each other as I dont wish to bring more hate to here/anywhere. It depends on what one is educating oneself on, how it is being served for the better good and memorizing things from textbooks doesn't always mean jack squat in the innate intelligence department.
The hate appears to breed from within him. It is not you.
So no douchebag eye roll for nora mentioning her TWO masters and a doctorate? Skin color makes all the difference for some people, huh? You're still oblivious to the FACT you're an angry hateful bigot despite numerous people in this thread pointing out how amazingly wrong you are about all military people being republicans. You're not even an American but you insist you're right. Perhaps instead of being so dismissive and jealous of people pursuing advanced degrees you could pop open a book yourself for once. Or just continue to be a loud mouthed asshole. Your choice sugarpie. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 25, 2018 5:54:31 GMT
It depends on what one is educating oneself on, how it is being served for the better good and memorizing things from textbooks doesn't always mean jack squat in the innate intelligence department.
The hate appears to breed from within him. It is not you.
So no douchebag eye roll for nora mentioning her TWO masters and a doctorate? Skin color makes all the difference for some people, huh? You're still oblivious to the FACT you're an angry hateful bigot despite numerous people in this thread pointing out how amazingly wrong you are about all military people being republicans. You're not even an American but you insist you're right. Perhaps instead of being so dismissive and jealous of people pursuing advanced degrees you could pop open a book yourself for once. Or just continue to be a loud mouthed asshole. Your choice sugarpie. Yes, the hate, arrogance and conceit is transparent. Don't you think this might be the reason many are dismissive of you? |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 5:38:57 GMT
....or are there some liberals amongst them? I'd like to think that I am a person who steers clear from generalizations, but actually, Toasted Cheese, I would probably say the answer to that is yes. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 27, 2018 9:18:34 GMT
....or are there some liberals amongst them? I'd like to think that I am a person who steers clear from generalizations, but actually, Toasted Cheese, I would probably say the answer to that is yes. Yes, good point about generalizations, but there was also motive behind the generalized question. I wasn't so much interested in black and white answers. We all have anger issues and violence is born out of this attitude. This affects all walks of life and political beliefs and persuasion is not always a part of this. I do however feel that those that have more of a propensity towards the defense force are republican. This has already been discussed in the thread and a link provided did show that the sway towards the militant mindset is predominantly right wing ideal\republican.
I also feel that it could perhaps be for the best that there are left leaning\liberal swayed people in the armed forces, otherwise we would end up with dictatorship rule with the armed forces. Look at the Third Reich.
For all those people that DON'T feel the need to commit acts of violence in the name of king or country, or to feed some governing self-serving agenda, or feel they want for others defend them—how disempowering is this mindset?—why are there those that do feel this way? I see this as ultimately soul destroying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 12:17:55 GMT
I'd like to think that I am a person who steers clear from generalizations, but actually, Toasted Cheese, I would probably say the answer to that is yes. Yes, good point about generalizations, but there was also motive behind the generalized question. I wasn't so much interested in black and white answers. We all have anger issues and violence is born out of this attitude. This affects all walks of life and political beliefs and persuasion is not always a part of this. I do however feel that those that have more of a propensity towards the defense force are republican. This has already been discussed in the thread and a link provided did show that the sway towards the militant mindset is predominantly right wing ideal\republican.
I also feel that it could perhaps be for the best that there are left leaning\liberal swayed people in the armed forces, otherwise we would end up with dictatorship rule with the armed forces. Look at the Third Reich.
For all those people that DON'T feel the need to commit acts of violence in the name of king or country, or to feed some governing self-serving agenda, or feel they want for others defend them—how disempowering is this mindset?—why are there those that do feel this way? I see this as ultimately soul destroying.
I wonder if we applied this same logic to those convicted of felonies what would happen? Edit, I found an article: link
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 27, 2018 13:41:52 GMT
Yes, good point about generalizations, but there was also motive behind the generalized question. I wasn't so much interested in black and white answers. We all have anger issues and violence is born out of this attitude. This affects all walks of life and political beliefs and persuasion is not always a part of this. I do however feel that those that have more of a propensity towards the defense force are republican. This has already been discussed in the thread and a link provided did show that the sway towards the militant mindset is predominantly right wing ideal\republican.
I also feel that it could perhaps be for the best that there are left leaning\liberal swayed people in the armed forces, otherwise we would end up with dictatorship rule with the armed forces. Look at the Third Reich.
For all those people that DON'T feel the need to commit acts of violence in the name of king or country, or to feed some governing self-serving agenda, or feel they want for others defend them—how disempowering is this mindset?—why are there those that do feel this way? I see this as ultimately soul destroying.
I wonder if we applied this same logic to those convicted of felonies what would happen? Edit, I found an article: link
Interesting, innit? It is interesting, because then one would have to ask from a scanty article like this, what are the felons committed? Also, does an individuals crime act on the same dynamic as institutional crime that is protected by a distorted and corrupt logic and mindset? Hmmmmm! Interesting! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:54:02 GMT
I wonder if we applied this same logic to those convicted of felonies what would happen? Edit, I found an article: link
Interesting, innit? It is interesting, because then one would have to ask from a scanty article like this, what are the felons committed? Also, does an individuals crime act on the same dynamic as institutional crime that is protected by a distorted and corrupt logic and mindset? Hmmmmm! Interesting! Interesting how the thought process looking changes depending the topic, we can flip from using a study to critiquing another, all dependent of if it fits our view or not. I see the logic in the article I linked to as flawed as yours in labeling Republicans as tending toward a violent mindset and it somehow being tied to the root word of militant being the same as military. Confirmation bias is confirmation bias. |
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Post by Utpe on Sept 27, 2018 20:05:38 GMT
I asked my father this question once a long time ago since he is retired from the U.S. Military.
According to him, a majority of the troops (~90%) vote Republican. I know he certainly does. My dad supports the party he's registered to, even if he doesn't necessarily agree with whomever the candidate is at the time.
Makes sense seeing as how members of the Armed Forces train with weapons. They're usually pro-gun.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 27, 2018 21:16:01 GMT
It is interesting, because then one would have to ask from a scanty article like this, what are the felons committed? Also, does an individuals crime act on the same dynamic as institutional crime that is protected by a distorted and corrupt logic and mindset? Hmmmmm! Interesting! Interesting how the thought process looking changes depending the topic, we can flip from using a study to critiquing another, all dependent of if it fits our view or not. I see the logic in the article I linked to as flawed as yours in labeling Republicans as tending toward a violent mindset and it somehow being tied to the root word of militant being the same as military. Confirmation bias is confirmation bias. I am not sure what you are attempt to defend in that article. Were the felons committed of a violent nature? If they were, how does that correlate to those that are serving in the military being 'predominantly' republican? Could you please explain to me how the root word of militant does not apply to the noun military, or explain how military 'wasn't' derived from the term?
My view is that of attitude and how it affects the politics of the mindset and while violent behavior affects all walks off life, I am focusing on the military\defense aspect which operates under a different guise of ideals and beliefs, as opposed to someone who acts criminally on their own autonomy.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 27, 2018 21:17:04 GMT
Lots of military in my family. Definitely some liberals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:42:07 GMT
Interesting how the thought process looking changes depending the topic, we can flip from using a study to critiquing another, all dependent of if it fits our view or not. I see the logic in the article I linked to as flawed as yours in labeling Republicans as tending toward a violent mindset and it somehow being tied to the root word of militant being the same as military. Confirmation bias is confirmation bias. I am not sure what you are attempt to defend in that article. Were the felons committed of a violent nature? If they were, how does that correlate to those that are serving in the military being 'predominantly' republican? Could you please explain to me how the root word of militant does not apply to the noun military, or explain how military 'wasn't' derived from the term?
My view is that of attitude and how it affects the politics of the mindset and while violent behavior affects all walks off life, I am focusing on the military\defense aspect which operates under a different guise of ideals and beliefs, as opposed to someone who acts criminally on their own autonomy.
Please reread my previous post, and tell me how it can be taken I am defending that article whatsoever. I am not. I am pointing out how one article was taken at face value on one hand when it supported a person's own confirmation bias, but an article that does not support the person's confirmation bias is immediately questioned and looked at for flaws. And all to support a desire to tie a violent mindset to a certain political persuasion. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 27, 2018 22:12:44 GMT
I am not sure what you are attempt to defend in that article. Were the felons committed of a violent nature? If they were, how does that correlate to those that are serving in the military being 'predominantly' republican? Could you please explain to me how the root word of militant does not apply to the noun military, or explain how military 'wasn't' derived from the term?
My view is that of attitude and how it affects the politics of the mindset and while violent behavior affects all walks off life, I am focusing on the military\defense aspect which operates under a different guise of ideals and beliefs, as opposed to someone who acts criminally on their own autonomy.
Please reread my previous post, and tell me how it can be taken I am defending that article whatsoever. I am not. I am pointing out how one article was taken at face value on one hand when it supported a person's own confirmation bias, but an article that does not support the person's confirmation bias is immediately questioned and looked at for flaws.
And all to support a desire to tie a violent mindset to a certain political persuasion.A certain political persuasion that is dominant pertaining to the military mindset. Are those felons in the anemic link you provided combative, defensive minded and dualistic in nature?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 22:19:37 GMT
Please reread my previous post, and tell me how it can be taken I am defending that article whatsoever. I am not. I am pointing out how one article was taken at face value on one hand when it supported a person's own confirmation bias, but an article that does not support the person's confirmation bias is immediately questioned and looked at for flaws.
And all to support a desire to tie a violent mindset to a certain political persuasion.A certain political persuasion that is dominant pertaining to the military mindset. Are those felons in the anemic link you provided combative, defensive minded and dualistic in nature?
Are you even reading and comprehending what I am trying to say here? Take a minute, read what I wrote about confirmation bias and reflect that back to me. We are having a failure to communicate. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 27, 2018 22:39:35 GMT
A certain political persuasion that is dominant pertaining to the military mindset. Are those felons in the anemic link you provided combative, defensive minded and dualistic in nature?
Are you even reading and comprehending what I am trying to say here? Take a minute, read what I wrote about confirmation bias and reflect that back to me. We are having a failure to communicate. You are digressing from the source of the topic, in order to avoid the essence of the pov. Where is the comprehension issue stemming from and what is the failure of the comprehension you feel is being ignored regarding the bias of the military with republican\right wing dominance? |
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