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Post by darkpast on Sept 21, 2018 18:26:04 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 21, 2018 18:51:43 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? |
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Post by darkpast on Sept 21, 2018 19:09:30 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? What did the Russo brothers do before? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 21, 2018 19:09:30 GMT
Looking forward to this project. The Eternals is an intriguing concept, can't wait to see what they do with it.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 21, 2018 19:10:19 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? Wasn't that most of the directors in the MCU? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 21, 2018 19:17:11 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? What did the Russo brothers do before? Mostly TV and a couple comedies. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 21, 2018 19:21:25 GMT
I have no idea who she is nor have I seen any of her films.
This is actually more of a random pick than the Russo's were.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 21, 2018 19:32:32 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? What did the Russo brothers do before? 90% TV. What's your point? That because they turned out ok that means this one's going to turn ok too? They're different people. One doing well is no indication that the other will.
And it still doesn't answer the question. In fact, it makes me ask the question about the Russo Brothers. How are movies of this scale being given to unproven directors? What are they seeing that makes them think these people can handle these completely different and quite large projects?
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Post by darkpast on Sept 21, 2018 19:34:04 GMT
What did the Russo brothers do before? 90% TV. What's your point? That because they turned out ok that means this one's going to turn ok too? They're different people. One doing well is no indication that the other will.
And it still doesn't answer the question. In fact, it makes me ask the question about the Russo Brothers. How are movies of this scale being given to unproven directors? What are they seeing that makes them think these people can handle these completely different and quite large projects?
Never doubt Feige |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 21, 2018 19:36:17 GMT
90% TV. What's your point? That because they turned out ok that means this one's going to turn ok too? They're different people. One doing well is no indication that the other will.
And it still doesn't answer the question. In fact, it makes me ask the question about the Russo Brothers. How are movies of this scale being given to unproven directors? What are they seeing that makes them think these people can handle these completely different and quite large projects?
Never doubt Feige I can see you've had your daily fill of the MCU the "Kool-Aid". Never doubt fanaticism. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 21, 2018 20:13:23 GMT
Looking forward to this project. The Eternals is an intriguing concept, can't wait to see what they do with it. Homo Immortalis is about to become a household name.  |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Sept 23, 2018 3:55:31 GMT
What did the Russo brothers do before? 90% TV. What's your point? That because they turned out ok that means this one's going to turn ok too? They're different people. One doing well is no indication that the other will.
And it still doesn't answer the question. In fact, it makes me ask the question about the Russo Brothers. How are movies of this scale being given to unproven directors? What are they seeing that makes them think these people can handle these completely different and quite large projects?
Probably because it doesn't seem to matter too much. I would've expected better Thor films from Kenneth Branagh or even Alan Taylor, but those turned out quite poorly, IMO. Even Joss Whedon and Jon Favreau who were not just proven directors but proven within the MCU turned in weaker follow-ups to their previous films. Then the unproven Jon Watts gave us a pretty awesome Spider-Man film.
But looking at the MCU directors, most of them did have a previous film that would make me believe they could handle such an endeavor.
So either this will be another Jon Watts, or turn out to be a Josh Trank situation.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 23, 2018 14:32:10 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? It’s not without precedent. Gareth Edwards and Colin Trevorrow started the same way. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 25, 2018 18:29:21 GMT
90% TV. What's your point? That because they turned out ok that means this one's going to turn ok too? They're different people. One doing well is no indication that the other will.
And it still doesn't answer the question. In fact, it makes me ask the question about the Russo Brothers. How are movies of this scale being given to unproven directors? What are they seeing that makes them think these people can handle these completely different and quite large projects?
Probably because it doesn't seem to matter too much. I would've expected better Thor films from Kenneth Branagh or even Alan Taylor, but those turned out quite poorly, IMO. Even Joss Whedon and Jon Favreau who were not just proven directors but proven within the MCU turned in weaker follow-ups to their previous films. Then the unproven Jon Watts gave us a pretty awesome Spider-Man film.
But looking at the MCU directors, most of them did have a previous film that would make me believe they could handle such an endeavor.
So either this will be another Jon Watts, or turn out to be a Josh Trank situation.
Whether or not they CAN handle the job is not the point. Like you said, maybe she'll turn out the very best MCU ever made!
My point is how do these unproven directors GET the jobs in the first place? What is it that makes them appealing to you as a producer/studio head if they don't have anything to SHOW you?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 25, 2018 18:30:42 GMT
So someone who's directed two extremely low budget movies that no one's even heard of much less seen. Someone who's never done a big budget, action sequences, FX, or anything fantastical in nature. She's never even done anything MID-scale and she's already going to bump up to directing what should be a truly EPIC movie about GODS in the Marvel universe.
How, HOW, is this happening in Hollywood nowadays? It’s not without precedent. Gareth Edwards and Colin Trevorrow started the same way. Agreed. That's what I mean. This has been going on for a while. How did this trend start? |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 25, 2018 18:46:53 GMT
It’s not without precedent. Gareth Edwards and Colin Trevorrow started the same way. Agreed. That's what I mean. This has been going on for a while. How did this trend start? Dunno. I think perhaps people are trying to find the next Christopher Nolan or something. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 25, 2018 18:56:30 GMT
Agreed. That's what I mean. This has been going on for a while. How did this trend start? Dunno. I think perhaps people are trying to find the next Christopher Nolan or something. Maybe, but he started small and grew from there. He did one indy (Following), then did a slightly bigger indy (Memento), then did a smallish mainstream (Insomnia), THEN did Batman Begins, at a point when the Batman franchise was still in doubt. All PRE MCU/DCEU. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 25, 2018 19:56:51 GMT
Dunno. I think perhaps people are trying to find the next Christopher Nolan or something. Maybe, but he started small and grew from there. He did one indy (Following), then did a slightly bigger indy (Memento), then did a smallish mainstream (Insomnia), THEN did Batman Begins, at a point when the Batman franchise was still in doubt. All PRE MCU/DCEU. There is no mystery here. Younger Directors are cheaper than their more experienced counterparts. They're also easier to mold (come on haters, jump on it) and they lack deep indoctrination into the studio system. There are also no massive egos to contend with that could seriously interfere with long-range planning. Marvel is running an incubator, not sure why that is so hard for most to understand/accept. It's not a foreign or new concept in business or in filmmaking. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 26, 2018 0:07:18 GMT
Maybe, but he started small and grew from there. He did one indy (Following), then did a slightly bigger indy (Memento), then did a smallish mainstream (Insomnia), THEN did Batman Begins, at a point when the Batman franchise was still in doubt. All PRE MCU/DCEU. There is no mystery here. Younger Directors are cheaper than their more experienced counterparts. They're also easier to mold (come on haters, jump on it) and they lack deep indoctrination into the studio system. There are also no massive egos to contend with that could seriously interfere with long-range planning. Marvel is running an incubator, not sure why that is so hard for most to understand/accept. It's not a foreign or new concept in business or in filmmaking. ^^^Agreed^^^ I'm surprised I wasn't the first one to actually say it.
The real "director" at MCU is Kevin Feige. 9 out of 10 directors at MCU are placeholders. That doesn't mean one of them cant come out and do something amazing (Ryan Coogler - Black Panther), its just that its more likely that they will tow the MCU line. And that's ok, after all, who can argue with the success.
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Post by darkpast on Sept 26, 2018 7:53:32 GMT
Disney won't hire no-name director's for Star Wars anymore, but they're perfectly fine with hiring no-names to direct Marvel films? Just how set in stone is the Marvel formula? Could I jump in and direct with no issues? I bet the machine is on autopilot. And this is all about money. The younger and less experienced you are, the less they have to pay you. Action! Stand here in front of this green screen and tell some jokes. |
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