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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 24, 2018 18:21:49 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s.
The following scenario would almost invariably take place during a Sunday. A big group of people have gotten out of church (like we're talking a group of 30 people... so they pretty much get to have the entire upper room, off to the side, all to themselves.) They order soooo much food and then I think it would like the 3 or 4 top alpha males pontificate until everybody their has had 3 go rounds of indigestion and then about 3 and half hours later, this big, LOUD, church group, tallying a bill (oh, I'm totally guessing here), but at at least 400 dollars, if not more. They run the servers ragged and they talk loud and then, here's comes the tip. Invariably these wonderful and highly thoughtful people end up tipping 5-8%. Where 25% should have been some kind of standard when you stay there so long and keep those seats from moving and display very little consideration in general.
Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river.
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Post by Nora on Sept 24, 2018 19:12:11 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. wow. the low tip doesnt enrage me as much as you, but the jesus literature in lieu of a tip truly is horrid. didnt imagine something like that would happen. as for my experience i dont really recall any problems with people when i was a waitress, but i do remember what annoyed the hell out of me when I was a server/order taker in a bagel shop. it was a really popular shop where people would often queue around the corner and be willing to wait for 10-15 minutes before they get to the counter and we were trying to be supper efficient and all and the moments my head was exploding was when someone would wait this whole time in the line while having both the menu on a huge board above their head AND printed out by the counter AND by the door, and then they would get to me and say "mmm, mm what am i going to have, what am i going to have today" or something like that, indicating they only NOW are starting to ponder what they want to buy. and then they would stand there thinking about their choice, holding everybody a hostage. and because of the set up of the store it wasnt really easy to just pass them and go onto the next person. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 24, 2018 21:46:49 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. i do remember what annoyed the hell out of me when I was a server/order taker in a bagel shop. it was a really popular shop where people would often queue around the corner and be willing to wait for 10-15 minutes before they get to the counter and we were trying to be supper efficient and all and the moments my head was exploding was when someone would wait this whole time in the line while having both the menu on a huge board above their head AND printed out by the counter AND by the door, and then they would get to me and say "mmm, mm what am i going to have, what am i going to have today" or something like that, indicating they only NOW are starting to ponder what they want to buy. and then they would stand there thinking about their choice, holding everybody a hostage. and because of the set up of the store it wasnt really easy to just pass them and go onto the next person. Related to this, as a customer, I can't stand places like this with multiple servers and multiple queues where you end up standing behind some idiot like you describe while everyone else is moving forward. Regardless of how many people serving there should be one queue so that everyone gets served in turn. Relating to the OP, I've never waited or worked in fast food, but I've worked in retail and my biggest peeve (and there were plenty) would be people who came in about 2 minutes before closing that needed something that would take a lot longer than 2 minutes and of course you can't turn them away because they're customers. |
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 24, 2018 23:55:44 GMT
I never tip.
I think it's funny and I enjoy being rude.
Just kidding.
In all seriousness though, I don't tip if I don't like the waiter/waitresses attitude or service.
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Sept 25, 2018 0:00:22 GMT
I never tip. I think it's funny and I enjoy being rude. Just kidding.In all seriousness though, I don't tip if I don't like the waiter/waitresses attitude or service. Catman has heard it's best to leave a penny when you don't like the service so they know you didn't just forget. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 25, 2018 0:02:42 GMT
People aren't obligated to tip. You can't take a job with optional payment and expect everyone to treat it like an obligation. Blame restaurateurs who won't pay their staff sufficient wages so that they don't have to rely on people voluntarily paying more than the advertised price.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 25, 2018 0:16:18 GMT
I never tip. I think it's funny and I enjoy being rude. Just kidding.In all seriousness though, I don't tip if I don't like the waiter/waitresses attitude or service. Catman has heard it's best to leave a penny when you don't like the service so they know you didn't just forget.I don't care whether they think I forgot or not. |
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Post by Nora on Sept 25, 2018 1:14:27 GMT
i do remember what annoyed the hell out of me when I was a server/order taker in a bagel shop. it was a really popular shop where people would often queue around the corner and be willing to wait for 10-15 minutes before they get to the counter and we were trying to be supper efficient and all and the moments my head was exploding was when someone would wait this whole time in the line while having both the menu on a huge board above their head AND printed out by the counter AND by the door, and then they would get to me and say "mmm, mm what am i going to have, what am i going to have today" or something like that, indicating they only NOW are starting to ponder what they want to buy. and then they would stand there thinking about their choice, holding everybody a hostage. and because of the set up of the store it wasnt really easy to just pass them and go onto the next person. Related to this, as a customer, I can't stand places like this with multiple servers and multiple queues where you end up standing behind some idiot like you describe while everyone else is moving forward. Regardless of how many people serving there should be one queue so that everyone gets served in turn. yeah i don't enjoy those either. do you ever try to estimate which line to join based on the looks and behaviours of the participants in the line and the person behind the counter? like ill avoid lines with kids in it, or people that are making out or argue or are on the phone as they queue, as those groups tend to delay things. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 1:46:12 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. The following scenario would almost invariably take place during a Sunday. A big group of people have gotten out of church (like we're talking a group of 30 people... so they pretty much get to have the entire upper room, off to the side, all to themselves.) They order soooo much food and then I think it would like the 3 or 4 top alpha males pontificate until everybody their has had 3 go rounds of indigestion and then about 3 and half hours later, this big, LOUD, church group, tallying a bill (oh, I'm totally guessing here), but at at least 400 dollars, if not more. They run the servers ragged and they talk loud and then, here's comes the tip. Invariably these wonderful and highly thoughtful people end up tipping 5-8%. Where 25% should have been some kind of standard when you stay there so long and keep those seats from moving and display very little consideration in general. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. No automatic gratuity applied to the bill for a party of that size? Isn't it pretty much standard to do so? |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 25, 2018 2:17:38 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. The following scenario would almost invariably take place during a Sunday. A big group of people have gotten out of church (like we're talking a group of 30 people... so they pretty much get to have the entire upper room, off to the side, all to themselves.) They order soooo much food and then I think it would like the 3 or 4 top alpha males pontificate until everybody their has had 3 go rounds of indigestion and then about 3 and half hours later, this big, LOUD, church group, tallying a bill (oh, I'm totally guessing here), but at at least 400 dollars, if not more. They run the servers ragged and they talk loud and then, here's comes the tip. Invariably these wonderful and highly thoughtful people end up tipping 5-8%. Where 25% should have been some kind of standard when you stay there so long and keep those seats from moving and display very little consideration in general. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. Yeah, those people can go to hell. |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 25, 2018 2:19:59 GMT
In all seriousness though, I don't tip if I don't like the waiter/waitresses attitude or service. Spoken like somebody who maybe has ingested his share of bodily fluids, unbeknownst to him. |
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 25, 2018 2:21:58 GMT
In all seriousness though, I don't tip if I don't like the waiter/waitresses attitude or service. Spoken like somebody who maybe has ingested his share of bodily fluids, unbeknownst to him.Yeah, probably. It's all good as long as I don't know about it though. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 25, 2018 3:43:34 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. The following scenario would almost invariably take place during a Sunday. A big group of people have gotten out of church (like we're talking a group of 30 people... so they pretty much get to have the entire upper room, off to the side, all to themselves.) They order soooo much food and then I think it would like the 3 or 4 top alpha males pontificate until everybody their has had 3 go rounds of indigestion and then about 3 and half hours later, this big, LOUD, church group, tallying a bill (oh, I'm totally guessing here), but at at least 400 dollars, if not more. They run the servers ragged and they talk loud and then, here's comes the tip. Invariably these wonderful and highly thoughtful people end up tipping 5-8%. Where 25% should have been some kind of standard when you stay there so long and keep those seats from moving and display very little consideration in general. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. No automatic gratuity applied to the bill for a party of that size? Isn't it pretty much standard to do so? I believe that it is the case now. But this was in 1989/1990. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 25, 2018 4:02:23 GMT
Related to this, as a customer, I can't stand places like this with multiple servers and multiple queues where you end up standing behind some idiot like you describe while everyone else is moving forward. Regardless of how many people serving there should be one queue so that everyone gets served in turn. yeah i don't enjoy those either. do you ever try to estimate which line to join based on the looks and behaviours of the participants in the line and the person behind the counter? like ill avoid lines with kids in it, or people that are making out or argue or are on the phone as they queue, as those groups tend to delay things. Well you try, but Murphy's Law... |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 25, 2018 22:45:48 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. wow. the low tip doesnt enrage me as much as you, but the jesus literature in lieu of a tip truly is horrid. didnt imagine something like that would happen. as for my experience i dont really recall any problems with people when i was a waitress, but i do remember what annoyed the hell out of me when I was a server/order taker in a bagel shop. it was a really popular shop where people would often queue around the corner and be willing to wait for 10-15 minutes before they get to the counter and we were trying to be supper efficient and all and the moments my head was exploding was when someone would wait this whole time in the line while having both the menu on a huge board above their head AND printed out by the counter AND by the door, and then they would get to me and say "mmm, mm what am i going to have, what am i going to have today" or something like that, indicating they only NOW are starting to ponder what they want to buy. and then they would stand there thinking about their choice, holding everybody a hostage. and because of the set up of the store it wasnt really easy to just pass them and go onto the next person. Its because you were in there Nora and they wanted to see you.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 25, 2018 22:51:50 GMT
People aren't obligated to tip. You can't take a job with optional payment and expect everyone to treat it like an obligation. Blame restaurateurs who won't pay their staff sufficient wages so that they don't have to rely on people voluntarily paying more than the advertised price. I live Downunder and tipping is not expected nor required, but it depends on the customer. If I go out in a large group, we would tip and we can be quite demanding. If it is just 2 or a few, my experience is that we pay what is charged. Cash is not always on the cards now because many people pay by electronic funds as well. And yes, pay your staff a more generous wage and don't expect for customers to have to pay more than advertised. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 4:20:05 GMT
People aren't obligated to tip. You can't take a job with optional payment and expect everyone to treat it like an obligation. Blame restaurateurs who won't pay their staff sufficient wages so that they don't have to rely on people voluntarily paying more than the advertised price. Of course, people aren't obligated to tip, but it's kind of an understood thing that tipping is part of the deal. Unless the service is exceptionally bad, I would never even consider not leaving a tip. I think not tipping really is an asshole move. I remember once a customer left a waitress (this was when I was a busboy at the the Olive Garden) a nickel for the tip. She was not a bad waitress and she had a decent personality. But obviously she was also hot tempered. When she saw what the customer left her, she grabbed the nickel, ran out the door and threw the nickel at the customer and said something like "you can keep your fucking nickel!" and then was promptly fired. I know she wasn't professional, but I felt bad for her. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 4:22:51 GMT
People aren't obligated to tip. You can't take a job with optional payment and expect everyone to treat it like an obligation. Blame restaurateurs who won't pay their staff sufficient wages so that they don't have to rely on people voluntarily paying more than the advertised price. I live Downunder and tipping is not expected nor required, but it depends on the customer. If I go out in a large group, we would tip and we can be quite demanding. If it is just 2 or a few, my experience is that we pay what is charged. Cash is not always on the cards now because many people pay by electronic funds as well. And yes, pay your staff a more generous wage and don't expect for customers to have to pay more than advertised. When I went to Amsterdam, my companion told me that tipping was considered borderline offensive. And that the standard thing was to just let them keep the change. So if the bill was 18 dollars and 25 cents, you'd give them a twenty dollar bill and that was that. When in Rome... |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 4:35:34 GMT
I'll just name the most obnoxious one I ever saw (and I probably saw it maybe 10 times at most) It happened most often when I worked at The Olive Garden when I was in my 20s. Then, about half the time, the church people would leave behind, in lieu of a tip of $$$, and they have the nerve and the shamelessness and the arrogance to leave behind church literature, all designed for this purpose, and on the front of the pamphlet reads in big letters... "NOW, HERE'S A REAL TIP FOR A BETTER LIFE!" or "GET TO KNOW JESUS!" or something else highly offensive. It was the waitresses' livelihood, how dare they? This was really the worst of the worst. I actually only remember that happening, maybe 3 or 4 times, but , oh boy, those servers were ticked off plenty!!! That is the height of rudeness and just plain being stingy. They should have made the wives make picnic basket lunches and go eat their lunches while sitting on big blankets down next to the river. wow. the low tip doesnt enrage me as much as you, but the jesus literature in lieu of a tip truly is horrid. didnt imagine something like that would happen. as for my experience i dont really recall any problems with people when i was a waitress, but i do remember what annoyed the hell out of me when I was a server/order taker in a bagel shop. it was a really popular shop where people would often queue around the corner and be willing to wait for 10-15 minutes before they get to the counter and we were trying to be supper efficient and all and the moments my head was exploding was when someone would wait this whole time in the line while having both the menu on a huge board above their head AND printed out by the counter AND by the door, and then they would get to me and say "mmm, mm what am i going to have, what am i going to have today" or something like that, indicating they only NOW are starting to ponder what they want to buy. and then they would stand there thinking about their choice, holding everybody a hostage. and because of the set up of the store it wasnt really easy to just pass them and go onto the next person. One time - oh this was really bad - there was a family of five. Mom and Dad are probably around 30 and they had three young children, including a baby. The other two kids were probably 5 and 7 years old. Anyway, four full dinners and something for baby and they've almost licked their plates clean, so they leave for about 5-8 minutes (didn't pay their bill, it was busy, the waitress wasn't sure what was going on and it was almost like not enough time had passed to register the scenario) and the waitress asked me to go ahead and bus their table. So about one minute after I'd cleaned and prepped the table for the next customer, this joke of a mom and dad come back and screamed "WE WEREN'T DONE EATING OUR FOOD! WHAT DID YOU DO?" and complained to the extent of saying they shouldn't have to pay for their meal. It was so obviously a ruse. Those jerks ate at least 90% of what was on their plate and then hid out in the bathroom until they were sure enough time had passed. So, the manager came out to address the commotion and she very calmly said "Sir, I'm very sorry you didn't get to finish all your meal. We will take care of the bill for you, just please do not ever come back into our restaurant again." It really was kind of a scene and a handful of people even clapped when she said that. I was very impressed by her composure and the way she handled it. But what a couple of schemers and what terrible role models for their young children. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 4:50:33 GMT
Ha! One time my friend and I went to this really nice restaurant in Minneapolis. This would have been in 1994. Anyway, my friend is an extremely demanding person. (We're actually not friends anymore) When we would go to a restaurant back in the day, and the hostess would say "smoking or non-smoking" and my friend's patented response was "no smoking, no children, hot waiter". My friend was a trannsexual and got attention wherever she went and usually got whatever she asked for because she was actually a highly intimidating person. And she didn't like it when we got a female server. And this time we got a female server, and my friend ran this poor girl ragged. I felt so bad for her. I was almost embarrassed. Anyway, our bill was around 120 dollars, kind of a big bill. My friend was not usually a good tipper and so, behind my friend's back, I gave the waitress 40 dollars for the tip, as I was almost positive that my friend had left next to nothing. Well, come to find out, my friend actually left a tip of 30 dollars, so that girl probably got the best tip of her life that night! And she deserved it! But that was funny.
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