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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Sept 25, 2018 18:10:20 GMT
A thread without an Ackbar is like lunch without chocolate pudding! I think I'll make that my new signature! |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 18:20:22 GMT
...I get a kick out of those who use "ax" instead of "ask" I want to kick those who throw a fit because someone used ax instead of axe and yet get lost if a sentence is so complicated that a comma or two were needed !
Speaking of which … where is professor deem ? not like her to miss out on a pronunciation thread  |
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Post by deembastille on Sept 25, 2018 20:08:00 GMT
I think that is the English pronunciation. That is one of the acceptable forms. Often without T is just as acceptable and probably far more common. Our New York friend deembastille would likely agree with me. I do but if you are in merry ole England, pronounce the t. In New York City, it holds no such allegiance. |
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Sept 25, 2018 20:26:43 GMT
Fam-lee instead of fam-illee for family. Even catch myself saying that way! 
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 25, 2018 21:15:29 GMT
But not all words are spelt phonetically (case in point). There are always rules, and exceptions to the rules. That doesn't change the rules. Was just making a point about your claim that caramel should be pronounced car-a-mel because it's spelt that way. For the record I pronounce it car-a-mel. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:17:14 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:18:54 GMT
Speech Police can be worse than the Spelling Police or even the dreaded Grammar Police !
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Post by movieliker on Sept 25, 2018 21:20:44 GMT
There are always rules, and exceptions to the rules. That doesn't change the rules. Was just making a point about your claim that caramel should be pronounced car-a-mel because it's spelt that way. For the record I pronounce it car-a-mel. Of course. I am not suggesting we make it against the law and start arresting people. I am just saying it is wrong. Just like pronouncing Lisa as Fred is wrong. And smart as stupid. Or good as bad. Right as wrong . . . etc. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 25, 2018 21:25:55 GMT
Was just making a point about your claim that caramel should be pronounced car-a-mel because it's spelt that way. For the record I pronounce it car-a-mel. Of course. I am not suggesting we make it against the law and start arresting people. I am just saying it is wrong. Just like pronouncing Lisa as Fred is wrong. And smart as stupid. Or good as bad. Right as wrong . . . etc. Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one. I always assumed it was an American (or part of) pronunciation. |
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Post by Salzmank on Sept 25, 2018 21:27:27 GMT
Of course. I am not suggesting we make it against the law and start arresting people. I am just saying it is wrong. Just like pronouncing Lisa as Fred is wrong. And smart as stupid. Or good as bad. Right as wrong . . . etc. Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one. I always assumed it was an American (or part of) pronunciation. It’s not only accepted but an authorized pronunciation by the Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster. movieliker simply denies this or claims that “accepted” is equatable to the acceptance of slavery at the time of Founding. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:31:36 GMT
Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one.
It's not even a regional thingy, Fox in the Snow . There are two accepted pronunciations per Salzmank 's posts earlier.
Dunno why friend movieliker has such a bee in his bonnet today and won't move on and let it go!  |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 25, 2018 21:33:33 GMT
Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one. I always assumed it was an American (or part of) pronunciation. It’s not only accepted but an authorized pronunciation by the Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster. movieliker simply denies this or claims that “accepted” means is equatable to the acceptance of slavery at the time of Founding. I haven't read the whole whole thread. I just woke up and saw another 4 pages of posts in the thread. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:35:06 GMT
I haven't read the whole whole thread. I just woke up and saw another 4 pages of posts in the thread. Get some coffee and anti-dizzy pills .. it gets quite convoluted !  |
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Post by movieliker on Sept 25, 2018 21:38:03 GMT
Of course. I am not suggesting we make it against the law and start arresting people. I am just saying it is wrong. Just like pronouncing Lisa as Fred is wrong. And smart as stupid. Or good as bad. Right as wrong . . . etc. Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one. I always assumed it was an American (or part of) pronunciation. Of course it is accepted. But it is grammatically incorrect. We can say tomato or toMAto. Either are acceptable. But you cannot get carmel out of caramel without breaking spelling and pronunciation rules. |
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Post by movieliker on Sept 25, 2018 21:40:26 GMT
Yes, but there are accepted regional variations. Not sure if that example is one. I always assumed it was an American (or part of) pronunciation. It’s not only accepted but an authorized pronunciation by the Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster. movieliker simply denies this or claims that “accepted” is equatable to the acceptance of slavery at the time of Founding. The only reason carmel is acceptable is because a whole bunch of people say it that way. But it breaks all spelling and pronunciation rules. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:41:29 GMT
But you cannot get carmel out of caramel without breaking spelling and pronunciation rules.
and yet the dudes what wrote the Dictionaries … aka the word rule books... say it's A OK ! with them !
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Post by movieliker on Sept 25, 2018 21:44:18 GMT
But you cannot get carmel out of caramel without breaking spelling and pronunciation rules.
and yet the dudes what wrote the Dictionaries … aka the word rule books... say it's A OK ! with them ! Only because those mispronunciations are widely used. Not because it follows spelling and pronunciation rules. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 25, 2018 21:47:10 GMT
Rules always have exceptions …
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Post by Salzmank on Sept 25, 2018 21:57:53 GMT
But you cannot get carmel out of caramel without breaking spelling and pronunciation rules.
and yet the dudes what wrote the Dictionaries … aka the word rule books... say it's A OK ! with them ! You don’t get it, Bat. movieliker just knows more than they do. He just does. No questioning allowed, or else it’s just like slavery!  But, seriously, English is a language of multitudinous exceptions—or is movieliker going to start criticizing the American pronunciation of laboratory? Or everyone’s pronunciation of women, February, etc.? Going into other languages, how about the French monsieur? And don’t get the poor lad started on timbre. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 25, 2018 21:59:39 GMT
Lose vs Loose
Also, when people spell them wrong.
You win some, you loose some.
WRONG!
It's you win some, you lose some.
Every which way but lose.
WRONG!
It's
Every which way but loose.
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