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Post by biker1 on Sept 27, 2018 3:09:15 GMT
What's comedy got to do with this?
And wtf does 'roger corman horror elements' mean? That sounds like movie idiot bullsht.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 27, 2018 3:34:17 GMT
What's comedy got to do with this? And wtf does 'roger corman horror elements' mean? That sounds like movie idiot bullsht. It has gothic horror aspects to it, particularly the set decoration. But I more meant that Demme started as a director working under Roger Corman and has stated that some of the things in the movie are inspired by Roger Corman. Roger Corman isn't only known for making horror movies, but in large part is considered a horror director because of his Edgar Allen Poe based movies from the 1960's. All you have to do is watch those movies and you can see clear inspiration on The Silence of the Lambs movie. What does comedy have to do with this? You just said that saying the Silence of the Lambs has horror-elements in it is a cop out. I am asking what is the difference between that and saying that Con Air is an action movie with comedy elements in it. It isn't a cop out, it is a fact as far as I'm concerned. I am a bit confused of how it is a cop out if it is actually true. I admit that Bad Boys was a bad example. I don't care if you agree or not, I am just letting you know what I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 4:14:46 GMT
No. Psychological thriller is more appropriate.
They were scary, though.
Someone earlier brought up "No Country" being/not being a Western. I'd call it a 'neo Western', the same way their "Blood Simple" can be 'neo noir'.
Action/Adventure works, too.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 27, 2018 5:17:47 GMT
Scary yes.
Thriller yes
Horror no
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Post by OldAussie on Sept 27, 2018 6:01:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 7:29:24 GMT
No. I think they are Thrillers. They lack the supernatural elements to be considered Horror to me. 
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Post by Xcalatë on Sept 27, 2018 8:23:18 GMT
No, Crime Thrillers but not Horror.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Sept 27, 2018 8:47:36 GMT
Definitely not, they have a perfectly respectable and easily defined genre called thriller that they fall under
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Post by James on Sept 27, 2018 8:57:44 GMT
I understand your point. They really are more of thrillers than plain horror. However, the serial killer aspects of them as well as some horrifying moments are what make them horror, at least to me.
So far, only Anthony agrees with me.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 27, 2018 12:37:16 GMT
I understand your point. They really are more of thrillers than plain horror. However, the serial killer aspects of them as well as some horrifying moments are what make them horror, at least to me. Horrifying acts ~ yes . "Horror genre" ~ no. they lack that supernatural or other-worldly element of true horror films. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 27, 2018 12:48:38 GMT
No. I think they are Thrillers. They lack the supernatural elements to be considered Horror to me. Is "supernatural elements" essential to be called a Horror? I agree these two films aren't Horror, but I'm sure there are films that are indisputably classified as Horror that don't contain any supernatural elements. I'm no expert though, so correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Post by Archelaus on Sept 27, 2018 16:06:35 GMT
No. I think they are Thrillers. They lack the supernatural elements to be considered Horror to me. Is "supernatural elements" essential to be called a Horror? I agree these two films aren't Horror, but I'm sure there are films that are indisputably classified as Horror that don't contain any supernatural elements. I'm no expert though, so correct me if I'm wrong. Not necessarily. The characters can be victimized by several non-supernatural entities such as serial killers, animals, and extraterrestrials. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 17:34:39 GMT
No I don't consider them straight up horror films at all. Both have highly disturbing elements/themes to them though but still, I don't think they'd classify in the horror genre.
Se7en is more of a neo noir detective / mystery thriller as others in this thread have stated . Silence of the Lambs is a bit more of a character study thriller (been quite awhile since I've seen it though)
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Post by politicidal on Sept 27, 2018 19:05:33 GMT
Suspense/thrillers but with horror elements.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 27, 2018 19:39:15 GMT
Sometimes horror and thriller are interchangeable.
If it has supernatural elements it is usually horror but there may be exceptions.
King Kong was originally classified as horror (although it had thrills so maybe it was also a thriller).
Jaws likewise.
Peeping Tom for example is listed in More Classics of the Horror Film.
In the Seven/Lambs cases I think the horror or thriller element is secondary to the police procedural so I would consider them crime thrillers.
In fact, stories in which cops are the protagonists I would think makes them something other than horror...then again the main character in Jaws was a cop. But the sharks fits the role of a monster character in the story so I suppose that is an exception anyway.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Sept 28, 2018 0:28:18 GMT
I regard horror as a very broad genre and have always tended to consider The Silence of the Lambs to be horror. It actually creeps me out more than a lot of conventional/stereotypical horror flicks do.
Concerning Se7en, I've always thought of it as a dark thriller, but I definitely see why some might class it as horror.
At the end of the day, these classifications are all totally subjective. I encountered a poster on a forum recently who considers the Jurassic Park movies horror.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 28, 2018 1:07:06 GMT
I consider Lambs horror but not Se7en.
Se7en is a disturbing film but I don't think it's ever really trying to be "scary". Lambs is trying to be scary pretty much whenever Hannibal or Buffalo Bill are around, which makes up a large chunk of the movie and not just a couple of unsettling scenes here and there like the other films mentioned.
Plus, the tone of the scenes themselves. The bit with the night vision goggles wouldn't be out of place in a slasher movie.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 28, 2018 1:34:24 GMT
Is "supernatural elements" essential to be called a Horror? I agree these two films aren't Horror, but I'm sure there are films that are indisputably classified as Horror that don't contain any supernatural elements. I'm no expert though, so correct me if I'm wrong. Not necessarily. The characters can be victimized by several non-supernatural entities such as serial killers, animals, and extraterrestrials. Yes that's what I thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 8:34:30 GMT
Is "supernatural elements" essential to be called a Horror? I agree these two films aren't Horror, but I'm sure there are films that are indisputably classified as Horror that don't contain any supernatural elements. I'm no expert though, so correct me if I'm wrong. Not necessarily. The characters can be victimized by several non-supernatural entities such as serial killers, animals, and extraterrestrials.  |
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