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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 30, 2018 0:52:55 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 30, 2018 1:27:31 GMT
Five films? What would the fifth one have been?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 30, 2018 17:46:00 GMT
Five films? What would the fifth one have been? MoS BvS JL JL2 JL3 |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 30, 2018 18:00:48 GMT
sounds plausible, I always thought the happy ending in Miller's TDK Returns was a compromise and that old Batman should have died. Snyder's interpretation was clearly inspired from the angry crusader in Miller's famous graphic novel.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 30, 2018 18:22:54 GMT
I get the feeling he's just making this all up as he goes along now... Vero is cementing his status as a folk hero of the DCEU that could have been. All he has to do is periodically manufacture some new tidbits regarding his "fully realized" and "ultra-detailed" plans that were somehow ten movies ahead of his his then current work plan.
If he had all of this worked out from the start, why does it have to be leaked piecemeal? Why can't he just dumbo drop the full plan on us all at once?
Periodic installments grow his legend and keep the faithful invested. Nice way to clear a runway for an inevitable future return. Well played, Mr. Snyder. well played.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 30, 2018 18:52:44 GMT
I get the feeling he's just making this all up as he goes along now... Vero is cementing his status as a folk hero of the DCEU that could have been. All he has to do is periodically manufacture some new tidbits regarding his "fully realized" and "ultra-detailed" plans that were somehow ten movies ahead of his his then current work plan. If he had all of this worked out from the start, why does it have to be leaked piecemeal? Why can't he just dumbo drop the full plan on us all at once? Periodic installments grow his legend and keep the faithful invested. Nice way to clear a runway for an inevitable future return. Well played, Mr. Snyder. well played. On the one hand, I can see Snyder planning in his mind some long term ambitious af greek styled epic like this. But on the other, from what I understood from the time (I and all of us were there ffs) there was nothing announced or even hinted at regarding a bigger story than just Man Of Steel being a reboot. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 30, 2018 19:03:38 GMT
I get the feeling he's just making this all up as he goes along now... Vero is cementing his status as a folk hero of the DCEU that could have been. All he has to do is periodically manufacture some new tidbits regarding his "fully realized" and "ultra-detailed" plans that were somehow ten movies ahead of his his then current work plan. If he had all of this worked out from the start, why does it have to be leaked piecemeal? Why can't he just dumbo drop the full plan on us all at once? Periodic installments grow his legend and keep the faithful invested. Nice way to clear a runway for an inevitable future return. Well played, Mr. Snyder. well played. On the one hand, I can see Snyder planning in his mind some long term ambitious af greek styled epic like this. But on the other, from what I understood from the time (I and all of us were there ffs) there was nothing announced or even hinted at regarding a bigger story than just Man Of Steel being a reboot. I could be wrong. He could have had a DCEU bible bigger than the King James version... I don't know. I wasn't there. This all just seems very convenient and self-serving. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 30, 2018 19:35:29 GMT
On the one hand, I can see Snyder planning in his mind some long term ambitious af greek styled epic like this. But on the other, from what I understood from the time (I and all of us were there ffs) there was nothing announced or even hinted at regarding a bigger story than just Man Of Steel being a reboot. I could be wrong. He could have had a DCEU bible bigger than the King James version... I don't know. I wasn't there. This all just seems very convenient and self-serving. I don’t really see what about it is so difficult to believe. He did kill off Superman, so I could see him killing off Batman later down the line, especially since he introduced an older Batman. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 30, 2018 19:45:55 GMT
I could be wrong. He could have had a DCEU bible bigger than the King James version... I don't know. I wasn't there. This all just seems very convenient and self-serving. I don’t really see what about it is so difficult to believe. He did kill off Superman, so I could see him killing off Batman later down the line, especially since he introduced an older Batman. That's interesting because I don't see why anyone wouldn't be confused. You've killed off Superman, and your next big play is to follow that up by killing Batman? Was this bout of proposed serial murder meant to be symbolic of the waning utility and relevance of both characters in the modern era? At the very least it's just repetitive in a creative context. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 30, 2018 19:52:19 GMT
I don’t really see what about it is so difficult to believe. He did kill off Superman, so I could see him killing off Batman later down the line, especially since he introduced an older Batman. That's interesting because I don't see why anyone wouldn't be confused. You've killed off Superman, and your next big play is to follow that up by killing Batman? Was this bout of proposed serial murder meant to be symbolic of the waning utility and relevance of both characters in the modern era? At the very least it's just repetitive in a creative context. He was obviously "swinging for the fences" by using up all of DC's ZOMG storylines. Not that it was working, though. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 30, 2018 19:58:27 GMT
I don’t really see what about it is so difficult to believe. He did kill off Superman, so I could see him killing off Batman later down the line, especially since he introduced an older Batman. That's interesting because I don't see why anyone wouldn't be confused. You've killed off Superman, and your next big play is to follow that up by killing Batman? Was this bout of proposed serial murder meant to be symbolic of the waning utility and relevance of both characters in the modern era? At the very least it's just repetitive in a creative context. In the case of killing Superman, the idea from what I’ve gathered was that in his death, he had finally become a symbol of hope and unity for the world as a whole, and his resurrection was supposed to be his Biblical second coming that signaled that times would get better. As a certain quote put it, “It is always darkest just before the dawn (of justice)”. As as for Batman, someone will have to ask Snyder about that. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 30, 2018 20:17:39 GMT
That's interesting because I don't see why anyone wouldn't be confused. You've killed off Superman, and your next big play is to follow that up by killing Batman? Was this bout of proposed serial murder meant to be symbolic of the waning utility and relevance of both characters in the modern era? At the very least it's just repetitive in a creative context. In the case of killing Superman, the idea from what I’ve gathered was that in his death, he had finally become a symbol of hope and unity for the world as a whole, and his resurrection was supposed to be his Biblical second coming that signaled that times would get better. As a certain quote put it, “It is always darkest just before the dawn (of justice)”. As as for Batman, someone will have to ask Snyder about that. Right. Well, I'm glad his most ardent fans and defenders are getting something out of his production notes for the alternate-reality version of the DCEU. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 30, 2018 20:20:58 GMT
While I've defended Snyder a little in the past and believe that they should've released his version of Justice League instead of what we got I am also of the opinion that after that then it would've been more appropriate to let him go. The set up for the future was better in his version of JL, but what he wanted to do after...Not so much.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 30, 2018 20:27:59 GMT
In the case of killing Superman, the idea from what I’ve gathered was that in his death, he had finally become a symbol of hope and unity for the world as a whole, and his resurrection was supposed to be his Biblical second coming that signaled that times would get better. As a certain quote put it, “It is always darkest just before the dawn (of justice)”. As as for Batman, someone will have to ask Snyder about that. Right. Well, I'm glad his most ardent fans and defenders are getting something out of his production notes for the alternate-reality version of the DCEU. I’m not actually one of his most ardent fans or defenders. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 30, 2018 20:31:20 GMT
Right. Well, I'm glad his most ardent fans and defenders are getting something out of his production notes for the alternate-reality version of the DCEU. I’m not actually one of his most ardent fans or defenders. That's nice to know but, I suspect that the majority of the fans hanging off of his every word on Vero are, to one degree or another, loyalists. |
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