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Post by OldSamVimes on Oct 2, 2018 5:39:54 GMT
"Earlier this year, the Beckley/Imperial Psilocybin and Depression study showed that two low to medium doses of psilocybin reduced depressive symptoms in 67 per cent of participants, with 42 per cent remaining depression-free after three months. Participants in this study had all suffered from depression for at least 18 years and been completely unresponsive to any other forms of treatment. " From this article. " In her final days of life, Mara underwent carefully supervised psychotherapy sessions under the influence of MDMA, LSD and psilocybin "magic" mushrooms. The treatments eased her pain, and she was able to get out of bed to take walks in a nearby park. The drugs also helped Mara reach a deep sense of acceptance of her imminent death. Vassallo, Mara's hospice care provider, says this was the only time in decades of working in hospice that she's witnessed psychedelic therapy playing a role, but that the results were astounding. "[For Mara] it was just always about pain, pain, pain, pain, pain, pain, no matter what we did," Vassallo said. "And we did a lot ... to try to control her pain, and really nothing worked. My theory is that the pain ---- I don't think it was conscience, but it was on the subconscious level ---- [Mara] needed to have the pain, because if everyone was focused on the pain, that kept everyone unfocused on the fact that this 32-year-old was dying." Vassallo said the psychedelic-assisted therapy seemed to open Mara up to the reality of the situation, and allow her a sense of peace in her final days." Psychedelics could change how we look at death.<video src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPm8KeCxa8g"> If people say they feel "better" I'm not going to argue with them and say no they don't. That wouldn't make any sense. I would remind though that harmful effects are also noted. The disorientation that always happens can be very disturbing, leading to intense paranoia. A milder case of paranoia was portrayed in the movie, The Tingler. Dr. Warren Chapin (Vincent Price) was experimenting with a psychoactive drug. It's only a movie of course, but real life disorientation and paranoia happen. A long lasting effect can be a remarkable change in personality with a loss of goals observed in even cases of limited use of marijuana. The women near death in the case study you linked obviously was at a stage in life where long term goals were less an issue. No offense, but if you've never done a psychedelic trying to explain what it does to someone who is experienced is pointless. It's like waking up to a heart surgeon attempting to explain all about heart surgery when you've never seen blood before. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Oct 2, 2018 10:32:05 GMT
If people say they feel "better" I'm not going to argue with them and say no they don't. That wouldn't make any sense. I would remind though that harmful effects are also noted. The disorientation that always happens can be very disturbing, leading to intense paranoia. A milder case of paranoia was portrayed in the movie, The Tingler. Dr. Warren Chapin (Vincent Price) was experimenting with a psychoactive drug. It's only a movie of course, but real life disorientation and paranoia happen. A long lasting effect can be a remarkable change in personality with a loss of goals observed in even cases of limited use of marijuana. The women near death in the case study you linked obviously was at a stage in life where long term goals were less an issue. No offense, but if you've never done a psychedelic trying to explain what it does to someone who is experienced is pointless. It's like waking up to a heart surgeon attempting to explain all about heart surgery when you've never seen blood before. People who have genuine religious experiences can also find it difficult to describe them and also be misunderstood when they try. I suspect some people who have had neither experience or just one might think the experiences are more similar than is true. My "bias," if that's what you want to call it, is that chemically induced experiences are cheap copies of genuine religious experiences. How do we "tell" (judge) which are genuine? False prophets do not "bear fruit" or that is do anything apparently useful (Matt 7:15-20). Genuine religious experiences align people with good goals. As I often mentioned, people with genuine religious experiences do not always try to claim them or explain them, seeing how futile that can be. They rather choose to focus on the good goal the experience helped them see. Then too, it appears that not all messages from the divine are for the general public anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 22:23:06 GMT
When I was in high school many years ago I had a secret life few people knew about. I worked in a restaurant. I remember it was never more than twenty hours a week though. It was somebody's "rule" that people in school could not have more than twenty hours of work a week even if they wanted more. My boss, the company, or perhaps some obscure organization or local community group thought it would hurt grades to let people in school have more than twenty hours. I wanted more as most kids did because we wanted the money, little that it was. My grades were fine. Not many people saw me there as I was behind the equipment most of the time. Only girl students got to work the cash register, or people who were not students. I attended religious services regularly and not many people saw me there either as many people in high school find excuses to miss such services. I was a regular participant in interscholastic debates and not many people saw me there either. Debate was never a popular event. At most of the debates there were only six people in the room, two people on each debate team, a judge and a timekeeper. Rarely there would be as many as fifteen or twenty people to see debates near the finals or debates by one of the bigger schools. Poetry recitals and competitions also took place at the same "speech" competitions and those got a lot bigger audience. I never "liked" beer. I still don't. I can't understand why anyone would. It has some medicinal purposes, that's all. Once after debating a team from England I got a stomach virus that would not go away. I asked a coworker at the restaurant where I worked who was the bartender there what alcohol would be best for the purpose. He recommended bourbon. I used a bit of bourbon. It was awful, but the virus, for whatever reason finally went away. I was never the "cool" one in the family. Some people only knew I existed because I was related to people who were cool. They only thought of me in those terms. They always hated me. You aren't the first or last person to be different.
But don't worry, you don't need to explain yourself to anyone.
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