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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:07:58 GMT
Yes, I knew that. Producer of "Pirates of the Caribbean." Director of "Training Day." But I was raised to be polite, even when the other person is not. The others are being polite. Are you going to be a dick? We already have thefleetsin for that, in case you didn't know. I'll not be surprised if he attaches another one of his stinky "poems" to this thread before sundown. I don't think I was "being a dick" to anyone? Peace, brother. It's all good.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 2, 2018 17:08:24 GMT
I think I know when I'm not wanted.
Take care.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:10:50 GMT
Yes, I knew that. Producer of "Pirates of the Caribbean." Director of "Training Day." But I was raised to be polite, even when the other person is not. The others are being polite. Are you going to be a dick? We already have thefleetsin for that, in case you didn't know. I'll not be surprised if he attaches another one of his stinky "poems" to this thread before sundown. No, Ackbar’s a good guy. He was just being silly—as is the Ackbarian wont! Oh no, not thefleetsin… Anyone ever read my parody of a fleetsin poem? One of my more impressive accomplishments, if I do say so myself! Ahem: Hopefully he will let us know if IT'S A TRAP! Yes, I remember that parody. It was great. Fleet probably didn't like it, but oh well. Can't please everyone.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:11:26 GMT
I think I know when I'm not wanted. Take care. Don't be that way. Come on back.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:16:05 GMT
I think I know when I'm not wanted. Take care. Don't be that way. Come on back. Please accept my apology. I can't read intentions over the Web.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:18:50 GMT
The question in my OP was copied word for word from the title of the video. I don't know if Brien Forrester is an atheist or not. He did a live stream recently and people were asking him if he believed in aliens. He wouldn't answer. People asked him if he believed in Christ. He wouldn't answer. He answered other questions, but not those. It's not incriminating in itself, of course, but I thought it was odd. All I can tell you is that I have never been an atheist. For thirty years I was a secular humanist, which is kind of like an atheist, but not really. Even as a secular humanist I find it hard to believe that a movement as strong and dedicated as Christianity could have been invented without a strong historical basis. Perhaps Jesus was a religious reformer who tried to break the domination of Pharisee rabbis and a wealthy Hellenized Jewish upper class. But he cannot be a fictionalized character in the manner of King Arthur. Well if you don't think there's a possibility that Arthur was real, I suppose Osiris and Achilles are definitely out of the question.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 2, 2018 17:19:27 GMT
No, Ackbar’s a good guy. He was just being silly—as is the Ackbarian wont! Oh no, not thefleetsin… Anyone ever read my parody of a fleetsin poem? One of my more impressive accomplishments, if I do say so myself! Ahem: Hopefully he will let us know if IT'S A TRAP! Yes, I remember that parody. It was great. Fleet probably didn't like it, but oh well. Can't please everyone. Thanks. It was fun to write. To be honest, if I were going to be more on-the-nose, one of his poems would probably have more to do with religion: See? Free verse that doesn’t make much logical sense and incomprehensibly touches on big questions that the poet is not actually prepared to deal with! Plus politics. Always politics.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 17:21:57 GMT
Hopefully he will let us know if IT'S A TRAP! Yes, I remember that parody. It was great. Fleet probably didn't like it, but oh well. Can't please everyone. Thanks. It was fun to write. To be honest, if I were going to be more on-the-nose, one of his poems would probably have more to do with religion: See? Free verse that doesn’t make much logical sense and incomprehensibly touches on big questions that the poet is not actually prepared to deal with! Plus politics. Always politics. Koskiewicz said it best. They're not even poems. He's just throwing a bunch of words together.
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Post by progressiveelement on Oct 2, 2018 17:39:30 GMT
I think the real question is, did he ever associate with He-Man or Conan the Barbarian? You're not far off from thinking that. SPOILER ALERTS!!!!!! King Arthur and/or the legend of Arthur has crossed over with Transformers, Robin Hood, The Dark Tower, Stargate SG-1, Dr Who, Hellboy, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy VII, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Shrek. And is reenacted with fighter jets in an Ace Combat game. 👍
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Post by gadreel on Oct 2, 2018 19:06:41 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 2, 2018 19:06:53 GMT
Thanks. It was fun to write. To be honest, if I were going to be more on-the-nose, one of his poems would probably have more to do with religion: … See? Free verse that doesn’t make much logical sense and incomprehensibly touches on big questions that the poet is not actually prepared to deal with! Plus politics. Always politics. Koskiewicz said it best. They're not even poems. He's just throwing a bunch of words together. Aye, there’s the genius and the wonder of the thing! If he wrote better poems (even in free verse!), I’d probably respect the guy more. As is, despite his attempts at seriousness, he comes across as an erstwhile class-clown who has outstayed his welcome.
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 2, 2018 19:22:17 GMT
gameboy
Surely you jest!
Yeah, I know don't call you Shirley.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 2, 2018 19:29:10 GMT
Well if you don't think there's a possibility that Arthur was real, I suppose Osiris and Achilles are definitely out of the question. Well, Achilles was a character invented by Homer in his epic the Iliad. That's like asking if Hamlet from the Shakespearean play was a real person. I doubt it. Osiris was a god. I don't wanna offend any Thelema pagans, but unless you believe in ancient Egyptian religion, Osiris was not real. At no point that I am aware of does the Bible say pagan deities were not real. It does however caution against worshipping them. I did a thread about Osiris once, and of course Poisoned Dragon was there to "debunk" it, which was fully expected. I remember my Latin teacher telling the class that Alexander the Great visited the tomb of Achilles, and fictional characters don't get tombs built for them. There was something about the breastplate of Achilles too, but I can't remember it now. EDIT -- That doesn't mean I believe in the Egyptian creation story any more than I believe in the Sumerian creation story. It just means I believe these gods were real entities worshipped by people.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 2, 2018 19:30:53 GMT
The pagan gods discussion is fun. Didn’t Tolkien say somewhere he wished the Norse gods were real, as angels or demons?
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 2, 2018 19:37:54 GMT
koskiewicz
Tell that to proggy and thefleetsin with their respective posts.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 2, 2018 19:41:09 GMT
As we recognize the figure, mostly fictitious but I think there was a historical model who could have just been some dude that poets liked enough to mythologize like Gilgamesh.
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Post by gadreel on Oct 2, 2018 20:49:51 GMT
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Post by drystyx on Oct 2, 2018 22:00:03 GMT
It's been documented that a King Arthur met a black knight at a bridge, where Arthur asked the knight to join him, but the knight refused, and fought Arthur, and Arthur cut off the knight's arm, and the knight still fought, amidst his own blood, and then Arthur cut off his second arm, and his legs, and then Arthur ran away.
As for the real Arthur, lots of pains have been made to suggest he was one real person, but it really looks like he's more "expo facto", with the "facto" being the first story told about him. There was an "Uther" it appears, with a son named Arthur, but the resemblance to fact and fiction ends pretty quickly after that.
However, I am now visiting a cave where ancient markings tell of Aggggghhhhhh!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 3, 2018 2:22:42 GMT
It's been documented that a King Arthur met a black knight at a bridge, where Arthur asked the knight to join him, but the knight refused, and fought Arthur, and Arthur cut off the knight's arm, and the knight still fought, amidst his own blood, and then Arthur cut off his second arm, and his legs, and then Arthur ran away. As for the real Arthur, lots of pains have been made to suggest he was one real person, but it really looks like he's more "expo facto", with the "facto" being the first story told about him. There was an "Uther" it appears, with a son named Arthur, but the resemblance to fact and fiction ends pretty quickly after that. However, I am now visiting a cave where ancient markings tell of Aggggghhhhhh! I was going to ask him about the Holy Hand Grenade next, but now I guess it's too late.
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