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Post by kuatorises on Oct 9, 2018 16:54:18 GMT
You're not exactly helping yourself with terms like this. Hets? Breeders? Who talks like this? You don't think there is a certain air or tone when you speak like this? It's not the only time either. You generally look down on straight people and their traditional lifestyle choices (kids):
And this? Parenting is a hetero responsibility?! I do think you're kidding part of the time, but you do see some pretty whacked out in derogatory remarks towards us lowly “breeders”.
While I am generalizing, yes I can look down on those that think they are het\breeder superior over the second class, or even third class citizenship that is afforded to homosexuality in society. That is my prerogative, just as it is a prerogative of those that feel they are 'normal'. While not all hets are homophobic, that is their misfortune they weren't born homosuperior. 
breeder
[bree-der]
noun
an animal, plant, or person that produces offspring or reproduces.
a person who raises animals or plants primarily for breeding purposes.
If one want to get precious over the noun breeding—which is what hets are doing—or get precious over being called a breeder, when this is what hets do and is a consequence of straight sex, please offer me another term that is more appropriate.
Oh, are you not allowed to vote or sit wherever you want on the bus? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 9, 2018 19:25:55 GMT
While I am generalizing, yes I can look down on those that think they are het\breeder superior over the second class, or even third class citizenship that is afforded to homosexuality in society. That is my prerogative, just as it is a prerogative of those that feel they are 'normal'. While not all hets are homophobic, that is their misfortune they weren't born homosuperior.
breeder
[bree-der]
noun
an animal, plant, or person that produces offspring or reproduces.
a person who raises animals or plants primarily for breeding purposes.
If one want to get precious over the noun breeding—which is what hets are doing—or get precious over being called a breeder, when this is what hets do and is a consequence of straight sex, please offer me another term that is more appropriate.
Oh, are you not allowed to vote or sit wherever you want on the bus? I don't catch the bus, that is for plebs, so I wouldn't know.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 10:42:19 GMT
Most people are not going to think gay before straight, even with the Catholic clergy, so while we know that the celibacy rule isn't always adhered too, Catholicism is still largely anti-homo, regardless of their church being perceived as a sanctuary for gay clergy. What irony aye! And if one is taking a celibacy vow, then the sexuality of the priesthood should be irrelevant, because they are supposed to deny it. You must look at human cultures as they exist in reality, with all their beauty and their ugliness. Traditionally in India there have been transsexuals called hijra, who castrate themselves to live as women and prostitute themselves for heterosexual males. Not a nice and liberated role IMHO for queer people. Yet this is how Hindus found an outlet for transsexuals. A similar oppressive dynamic occurred in Medieval Catholic societies with the priesthood. It attracted homosexual males and females who could not or would not marry and have children. Yet the society found a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. To this day the Catholic clergy is still overwhelming homosexual. It is what it is. My main point though, was that a religious cult that perceives homosexuality as ultimately sinful— and this is still present culture with many religions—then provides a sanctuary for them, except with the added clause of going celibate, that then absurdly asks them to deny what or who they are. And regardless of the sexuality of the priest, going celibate is supposed to attribute an air of sexlessness— or is that asexual Gamey  —when the vast majority of these priests are anything but. This is just what it is and I am not making any excuses for the Catholic Churches hypocrisy and double standards, even if it is supposedly being compassionate by providing a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. It has just caused more issues within their phony ranks. Are the hetero priests non-conforming too? There would be more of them I would say? |
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Post by gameboy on Oct 12, 2018 1:45:59 GMT
You must look at human cultures as they exist in reality, with all their beauty and their ugliness. Traditionally in India there have been transsexuals called hijra, who castrate themselves to live as women and prostitute themselves for heterosexual males. Not a nice and liberated role IMHO for queer people. Yet this is how Hindus found an outlet for transsexuals. A similar oppressive dynamic occurred in Medieval Catholic societies with the priesthood. It attracted homosexual males and females who could not or would not marry and have children. Yet the society found a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. To this day the Catholic clergy is still overwhelming homosexual. It is what it is. My main point though, was that a religious cult that perceives homosexuality as ultimately sinful— and this is still present culture with many religions—then provides a sanctuary for them, except with the added clause of going celibate, that then absurdly asks them to deny what or who they are. And regardless of the sexuality of the priest, going celibate is supposed to attribute an air of sexlessness— or is that asexual Gamey —when the vast majority of these priests are anything but. This is just what it is and I am not making any excuses for the Catholic Churches hypocrisy and double standards, even if it is supposedly being compassionate by providing a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. It has just caused more issues within their phony ranks. Are the hetero priests non-conforming too? There would be more of them I would say? Can we say the 'f' word here? The priests are f*****g each other. Okay, probably not all of them now. But in Medieval society the only thing a man could do is become a priest or marry a woman and have children. Given the options what do you do? I'm not defending the Catholic Church or homophobic Christianity. I agree with you the future is ours now and we will not be shackled. Unless of course they trick us all into same sex marriages. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 14, 2018 23:07:02 GMT
My main point though, was that a religious cult that perceives homosexuality as ultimately sinful— and this is still present culture with many religions—then provides a sanctuary for them, except with the added clause of going celibate, that then absurdly asks them to deny what or who they are. And regardless of the sexuality of the priest, going celibate is supposed to attribute an air of sexlessness— or is that asexual Gamey —when the vast majority of these priests are anything but. This is just what it is and I am not making any excuses for the Catholic Churches hypocrisy and double standards, even if it is supposedly being compassionate by providing a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. It has just caused more issues within their phony ranks. Are the hetero priests non-conforming too? There would be more of them I would say? Can we say the 'f' word here? The priests are f*****g each other. Okay, probably not all of them now. But in Medieval society the only thing a man could do is become a priest or marry a woman and have children. Given the options what do you do? I'm not defending the Catholic Church or homophobic Christianity. I agree with you the future is ours now and we will not be shackled. Unless of course they trick us all into same sex marriages. Its nice now though, that in most reasonable countries, that anyone can say to anyone, even in jest...I love you! Will you marry me? and it doesn't matter to what gender.
Catholicism needs to wake up. In fact, it really needs to breakup and and break down. Same goes for all religions that don't understand the purpose and notion of what the Godforce is.
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—when the vast majority of these priests are anything but. This is just what it is and I am not making any excuses for the Catholic Churches hypocrisy and double standards, even if it is supposedly being compassionate by providing a safe harbor for these non-conforming people. It has just caused more issues within their phony ranks. Are the hetero priests non-conforming too? There would be more of them I would say?