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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 21:19:33 GMT
As someone who was only a baby in the 90's, but remembers how the MLB was in the Late 90's very well and grew up with it in the 2000's as well, I'd definitely say yes. The fans were better, the games were better, my teams were doing good and had cooler players with cooler names, etc.
I feel since the Early 2010's, baseball has became a white man's sport again and I don't like that.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 5, 2018 21:21:18 GMT
No, but it was better in the 70’s and 80’s.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 5, 2018 23:06:02 GMT
I think the analytics are hurting the game from a fan's standpoint. Shifts, bullpen games, launch angle, crap like that. Unfortunately, those responsible don't give a damn about the entertainment value. And MLB will probably not make rules to stop this, stuff like limiting the number of pitchers used and limiting/abolishing shifts.
I would imagine a "yankeeclemensfan" would be more fond on the late 90's anyway.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Oct 5, 2018 23:15:07 GMT
"Wasn't baseball so much better back in the 1990's and 2000's?"
No! The best era for baseball was definitely the 50's-60's.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 5, 2018 23:17:28 GMT
As someone who was only a baby in the 90's, but remembers how the MLB was in the Late 90's very well and grew up with it in the 2000's as well, I'd definitely say yes. The fans were better, the games were better, my teams were doing good and had cooler players with cooler names, etc. I feel since the Early 2010's, baseball has became a white man's sport again and I don't like that. So basically you want to bring steroids back?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 23:17:44 GMT
As someone who was only a baby in the 90's, but remembers how the MLB was in the Late 90's very well and grew up with it in the 2000's as well, I'd definitely say yes. The fans were better, the games were better, my teams were doing good and had cooler players with cooler names, etc. I feel since the Early 2010's, baseball has became a white man's sport again and I don't like that.They should implement racial quotas on MLB.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 23:47:04 GMT
As someone who was only a baby in the 90's, but remembers how the MLB was in the Late 90's very well and grew up with it in the 2000's as well, I'd definitely say yes. The fans were better, the games were better, my teams were doing good and had cooler players with cooler names, etc. I feel since the Early 2010's, baseball has became a white man's sport again and I don't like that. So basically you want to bring steroids back? I didn't say anything about steroids, I just think that baseball is boring and lame nowadays.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 6, 2018 0:04:01 GMT
It was far better in the 30s and 40s.
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Post by _ on Oct 6, 2018 0:17:57 GMT
I prefer the 10s and 20s myself.
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Post by wonderburstanger on Oct 6, 2018 0:20:06 GMT
Bring the steroids back.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 6, 2018 0:22:13 GMT
I prefer the 10s and 20s myself. Deflategate was nothing compared to the Black Sox scandal.
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Post by _ on Oct 6, 2018 0:29:10 GMT
I prefer the 10s and 20s myself. Deflategate was nothing compared to the Black Sox scandal. I can actually remember the town crier, who went by the nickname "DC-Fan" ( Devoted Cubs Fan ) yelling "CHEATERS! CHEATERS!" on the corner.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 6, 2018 2:05:31 GMT
Now it's all about the "three true outcomes," none of which involve the fielders. BB, K, HR. Adam Dunn ball.
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Post by weststigersbob on Oct 6, 2018 2:55:33 GMT
Now it's all about the "three true outcomes," none of which involve the fielders. BB, K, HR. Adam Dunn ball. This. As a definite ‘outsider looking in’ and having no experience of the history of the game except through others eyes - the one true thing missing from the game today is variation in offence. I have read numerous times how in the 50’s and 60’s when the mound was higher, the strike zone bigger and ball parks were bigger - offensively clubs had to “manufacture” runs. And by extension, batters had to have the abilities to bat that way, and defences had to ‘cover more bases’ (pardon the pun). Two things changed baseball forever. Steroids were the first. Fuck manufacturing runs. Get a juiced gorilla up there swinging like a gate and even mis-hits go the journey. The second was the McGwire / Sosa home run race. More non baseball people or casual baseball people remember that from that era than anything else.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 6, 2018 3:52:31 GMT
Now it's all about the "three true outcomes," none of which involve the fielders. BB, K, HR. Adam Dunn ball. Thank God for football, right?
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Post by GiantFan1980 on Oct 6, 2018 4:50:50 GMT
The 1860's were a grand old time!
I still remember the game where the South Bend Loligagger's played the Yazoo City Oyster Farmers. The game was tied 0-0 into the bottom of the 35th inning. Crazy Legs Arbuckle on the mound and he pitches a high road apple (they used to cover the baseball in dog shit back in those days for extra weight) and Mashed Potato Johnson lays down the bunt for the Loligaggers which brought Mustard Tits The Murder Master Brown who was on third, home for the win.
And they didn't call the games in those days for a little bit of rain. Heck, they played ball right through the tornado's!!!
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 6, 2018 4:56:19 GMT
No that was dumb. Sure the pitchers were juicing as much as the hitters, the game became a parody of its glorious self. As for teams & playoff drama, I think the 2010's have actually been the most entertaining for me. The one thing I'd hope for a return is starting pitchers logging more innings. I'd be for a pitching change cap & as I've suggested previous, enable a team to start day 1 with a low number of pitching changes available - & allowing teams to bank unused changes for later. So baseball in August & esp Sept, teams could end up using more bullpen for both strategy & playoff bound rest if they earned it.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Oct 6, 2018 5:01:10 GMT
Now it's all about the "three true outcomes," none of which involve the fielders. BB, K, HR. Adam Dunn ball. This. As a definite ‘outsider looking in’ and having no experience of the history of the game except through others eyes - the one true thing missing from the game today is variation in offence. I have read numerous times how in the 50’s and 60’s when the mound was higher, the strike zone bigger and ball parks were bigger - offensively clubs had to “manufacture” runs. And by extension, batters had to have the abilities to bat that way, and defences had to ‘cover more bases’ (pardon the pun). Two things changed baseball forever. Steroids were the first. Fuck manufacturing runs. Get a juiced gorilla up there swinging like a gate and even mis-hits go the journey. The second was the McGwire / Sosa home run race. More non baseball people or casual baseball people remember that from that era than anything else. More speed would be nice.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 6, 2018 5:49:55 GMT
George Brett was on Dan Shulman's season finale podcast A Swing & a Belt. George spoke to the game, how essentially all hits should be approached as potential doubles. If a player could simply outrun his single into a double once a month, they'd have 6 more doubles to their yearly tally. Minimum. That approach every at bat would probably create even more extra base hits - because teams would start tightening up when your hustling self stepped into the batter's box. Outfielders would start running towards hard hit corner or gapper balls with more abandon if they think you're racing around the basepaths - which would probably even create poorer defense & errors. Forcing the opposition to be on their toes & perfect, because you're hard working on the base paths. There's no slumping or streaking for hard work & hustle. Stolen bases can be good, but if you're walking instead of trying to hit doubles, than it's nearly a wash.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 5:52:35 GMT
No that was dumb. Sure the pitchers were juicing as much as the hitters, the game became a parody of its glorious self. As for teams & playoff drama, I think the 2010's have actually been the most entertaining for me. The one thing I'd hope for a return is starting pitchers logging more innings. I'd be for a pitching change cap & as I've suggested previous, enable a team to start day 1 with a low number of pitching changes available - & allowing teams to bank unused changes for later. So baseball in August & esp Sept, teams could end up using more bullpen for both strategy & playoff bound rest if they earned it. What was dumb about it and why was it bad for the game of baseball other than the fact that it pissed off old uptight white men like you who want to forever hang on to the 1920's-1960's??? And who is to say that steroids are gone from baseball completely and that players aren't still cheating now, if not far more so than players did 20-30 years ago???
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