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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 0:07:22 GMT
I'm not saying you're not allowed to write whatever you want to write  I just want people to think about and realize (or alternatively offer an argument contra the notion) that different people think about the same thing in different ways; it's not like there's a widespread mono-mind or some such. OK, I will play. Whilst people, of course think about the same thing in different ways, there is a thing called a 'general consensus'. (or if you are of the school that thinks this 'general' word is redundant or a tautology, then just 'consensus') Feminism goz, IS NOT the general consensus though and the general consensus can also be about simplemindedness and ignorance to boot. The general consensus is largely about generalization, there is always underlying subtext and even subterfuge. |
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 0:43:42 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 0:54:09 GMT
It is not a right to be entitled to something just because you are a woman.
Asking the question if females should have equal rights, is just a blanket statement and it could be argued EVERYONE should have equal rights. One would also have to define what equality is across the 'whole' spectrum, and then look at realistic expectations of what exactly it is ALL men in society, have over ALL women, and then work on the flip side of this coin. You want more than your fair share by the sound of it.
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 0:59:34 GMT
It is not a right to be entitled to something just because you are a woman.
Asking the question if females should have equal rights, is just a blanket statement and it could be argued EVERYONE should have equal rights. One would also have to define what equality is across the 'whole' spectrum, and then look at realistic expectations of what exactly it is ALL men in society, have over ALL women, and then work on the flip side of this coin. You want more than your fair share by the sound of it.
No. What is it you don't understand about 'equality'? BTW I posted many examples of 'consensus'. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 1:01:32 GMT
It is not a right to be entitled to something just because you are a woman.
Asking the question if females should have equal rights, is just a blanket statement and it could be argued EVERYONE should have equal rights. One would also have to define what equality is across the 'whole' spectrum, and then look at realistic expectations of what exactly it is ALL men in society, have over ALL women, and then work on the flip side of this coin. You want more than your fair share by the sound of it.
No. What is it you don't understand about 'equality'? BTW I posted many examples of 'consensus'. Yes you do.
What is it YOU don't understand about 'equality'?
BTW your links are about desperate propagation for you biased and slanted hateful movement.
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 1:06:38 GMT
No. What is it you don't understand about 'equality'? BTW I posted many examples of 'consensus'. Yes you do.
What is it YOU don't understand about 'equality'?
BTW your links are about desperate propagation for you biased and slanted hateful movement.
No, I don't. I, and all other 'feminists', male and female would be content with 'equality'. My links are mainly government sponsored sites and/or investigative journalists and results of unbiased investigations into 'equality of the sexes' and all it involves. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 1:10:49 GMT
Yes you do.
What is it YOU don't understand about 'equality'?
BTW your links are about desperate propagation for you biased and slanted hateful movement.
No, I don't. I, and all other 'feminists', male and female would be content with 'equality'. My links are mainly government sponsored sites and/or investigative journalists and results of unbiased investigations into 'equality of the sexes' and all it involves. If they are sponsored by the government—which has its own biased, self-serving and disloyal agendas—and they manipulate the media, I take what I see and read as a pinch of salt.
The West is spoiled, focus your attention now on parts of the world where women ARE oppressed, then you will see bias and discrimination and inequality.
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 1:16:44 GMT
No, I don't. I, and all other 'feminists', male and female would be content with 'equality'. My links are mainly government sponsored sites and/or investigative journalists and results of unbiased investigations into 'equality of the sexes' and all it involves. If they are sponsored by the government—which has its own biased, self-serving and disloyal agendas—and they manipulate the media, I take what I see and read as a pinch of salt.
The West is spoiled, focus your attention now on parts of the world where women ARE oppressed, then you will see bias and discrimination and inequality.
No. Not necessarily. The government agencies take their statistics from raw data from the Commonwealth Bureau of Statistics. Yes, agreed, though it is a deflective red herring argument about inequality in the West...like in Australia which was the focus of information in this post. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 1:27:44 GMT
If they are sponsored by the government—which has its own biased, self-serving and disloyal agendas—and they manipulate the media, I take what I see and read as a pinch of salt.
The West is spoiled, focus your attention now on parts of the world where women ARE oppressed, then you will see bias and discrimination and inequality.
No. Not necessarily. The government agencies take their statistics from raw data from the Commonwealth Bureau of Statistics. Yes, agreed, though it is a deflective red herring argument about inequality in the West...like in Australia which was the focus of information in this post. I don't see the inequality in Australia as you perceive it. I also don't believe that equality on feminist terms is feasible. |
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 2:03:41 GMT
No. Not necessarily. The government agencies take their statistics from raw data from the Commonwealth Bureau of Statistics. Yes, agreed, though it is a deflective red herring argument about inequality in the West...like in Australia which was the focus of information in this post. I don't see the inequality in Australia as you perceive it. I also don't believe that equality on feminist terms is feasible. There is inequality in the verifiable statistics (government again) in terms of 1. Workforce..such as numbers of female CEOs of major companies, specialist doctors, judges etc 2.Parliamentarians especially in the governing Liberal party and especially in current Cabinet 3. Levels of domestic violence against females by males. 4. Rape and sexual assault. 5.Male vs. effective paygap 6. Level of domestic chores performed by males v females in heterosexual households. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 2:09:37 GMT
I don't see the inequality in Australia as you perceive it. I also don't believe that equality on feminist terms is feasible. There is inequality in the verifiable statistics (government again) in terms of 1. Workforce..such as numbers of female CEOs of major companies, specialist doctors, judges etc 2.Parliamentarians especially in the governing Liberal party and especially in current Cabinet 3. Levels of domestic violence against females by males. 4. Rape and sexual assault. 5.Male vs. effective paygap 6. Level of domestic chores performed by males v females in heterosexual households. Interests and lifestyle choices and also you don't know what triggered these domestic violence cases. You would have to have a full detail of every scenario, not just any outcome that you hear and gets propagated. Women are NOT angels or as special as you like to think they are. As for your domestic chores issue, what a joke. 
The pay-gap is a tiresome argument, but you know this, and the fact that you bring it up leaves you with little credibility.  |
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 2:34:27 GMT
There is inequality in the verifiable statistics (government again) in terms of 1. Workforce..such as numbers of female CEOs of major companies, specialist doctors, judges etc 2.Parliamentarians especially in the governing Liberal party and especially in current Cabinet 3. Levels of domestic violence against females by males. 4. Rape and sexual assault. 5.Male vs. effective paygap 6. Level of domestic chores performed by males v females in heterosexual households. Interests and lifestyle choices and also you don't know what triggered these domestic violence cases. You would have to have a full detail of every scenario, not just any outcome that you hear and gets propagated. Women are NOT angels or as special as you like to think they are. As for your domestic chores issue, what a joke.
The pay-gap is a tiresome argument, but you know this, and the fact that you bring it up leaves you with little credibility. You have a little homework to do before you belittle this post. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 2:37:02 GMT
Interests and lifestyle choices and also you don't know what triggered these domestic violence cases. You would have to have a full detail of every scenario, not just any outcome that you hear and gets propagated. Women are NOT angels or as special as you like to think they are. As for your domestic chores issue, what a joke.
The pay-gap is a tiresome argument, but you know this, and the fact that you bring it up leaves you with little credibility. You have a little homework to do before you belittle this post. Whatever little gozling! You need to look between the lines, instead of allowing yourself to be foolishly force fed all the lies and agendas you so easily digest. Typical of a short -sighted and foolish feminist.
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Post by thefleetsin on Oct 23, 2018 4:18:33 GMT
so which planetary system had those males tooling it
if the brightest
idea
you can
come up with
revolves around weapons
some cold
some radio active
then you
deserve
whole generations of males
with
erectile dysfunction
because
at this junction
everyone's lost the gumption
to
own anything
that honestly functions
let alone
working testicles.
sjw 10/22/18 inspired at this very moment in time as the portal spins beyond the spineless whims.
from the 'beguiled series' of poems
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 5:16:14 GMT
You have a little homework to do before you belittle this post. Whatever little gozling! You need to look between the lines, instead of allowing yourself to be foolishly force fed all the lies and agendas you so easily digest. Typical of a short -sighted and foolish feminist.
There are six categories for you to post contrary Australian based statistics which disprove my facts...and GO! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 5:54:07 GMT
Whatever little gozling! You need to look between the lines, instead of allowing yourself to be foolishly force fed all the lies and agendas you so easily digest. Typical of a short -sighted and foolish feminist.
There are six categories for you to post contrary Australian based statistics which disprove my facts...and GO! Bogus facts that are based on your own delusional anecdotal evidence, from statistics that aren't representative of the whole picture just don't cut it. You just want more and more and more. |
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 7:23:05 GMT
There are six categories for you to post contrary Australian based statistics which disprove my facts...and GO! Bogus facts that are based on your own delusional anecdotal evidence, from statistics that aren't representative of the whole picture just don't cut it. You just want more and more and more. You still have six categories to refute, given reputable stats. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 23, 2018 10:29:33 GMT
Bogus facts that are based on your own delusional anecdotal evidence, from statistics that aren't representative of the whole picture just don't cut it. You just want more and more and more. You still have six categories to refute, given reputable stats. There can NEVER be equality goz, it is a delusion, like your warped feminist values. If we were all the same gender perhaps, and all had the same acumen and skills and talents etc and all had the same fiscal means.
Why is it so important to you that women get more CEO jobs. What is so special about the corporate world that you think can make a difference with women. This milieu is for self-serving, self-entitled and narcissistic sociopaths, even psychopathic personalities; snakes in suits. Is that then similar to feminism, is that why you feel it is so important?
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Post by goz on Oct 23, 2018 20:07:19 GMT
Your second paragraph just proves this stupidity You still have six categories to refute, given reputable stats. There can NEVER be equality goz, it is a delusion, like your warped feminist values. If we were all the same gender perhaps, and all had the same acumen and skills and talents etc and all had the same fiscal means.
Why is it so important to you that women get more CEO jobs. What is so special about the corporate world that you think can make a difference with women. This milieu is for self-serving, self-entitled and narcissistic sociopaths, even psychopathic personalities; snakes in suits. Is that then similar to feminism, is that why you feel it is so important?
Are you really so stupid that you don't understand the basic concept of 'equality' amongst human beings? Of course we are all different however we all deserve the same human rights, the same equality of opportunity WITHIN the range of our individual abilities. I can't believe you don't 'get' that! It is an end goal that we should ALL be striving for. Your second paragraph just proves this stupidity, and a rather idiotic personal opinion and mentality. It is all about embracing our individual abilities and choices. YOU may not want to be a corporate CEO butt others do, and it shouldn't matter if they are male or female. At the moment there is a preference for the appointment of males. It is unequal. There is no intrinsic reason why a woman should not be a CEO should she wish and have the skills, motivation and education. It may indeed be harder for her to have the experience because of this very problem of preference up the ranks of management for males. Could you be any more myopic? |
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Post by thorshairspray on Oct 24, 2018 20:51:39 GMT
I don't see the inequality in Australia as you perceive it. I also don't believe that equality on feminist terms is feasible. There is inequality in the verifiable statistics (government again) in terms of 1. Workforce..such as numbers of female CEOs of major companies, specialist doctors, judges etc 2.Parliamentarians especially in the governing Liberal party and especially in current Cabinet 3. Levels of domestic violence against females by males. 4. Rape and sexual assault. 5.Male vs. effective paygap 6. Level of domestic chores performed by males v females in heterosexual households. 1) Irrelevant unless you can show the numbers are due to discrimination 2) Irrelevant unless you can show the numbers are due to discrimination 3) Not a gender issue. Females are more likely to instigate violence, also more likely to be the sole violent partner. Poor women are more likely to face violence than richer ones. 4) Criminal justice and education issues, how do you think you can get equality here? 5) Almost entirely down to female choices 6) Irrelevant unless you can show the numbers are due to discrimination |
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