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Post by anthonyrocks on Oct 6, 2018 16:18:39 GMT
When it comes to Ronda Rousey's Career in the WWE so far, She has actually been Pretty Awesome to watch just about every single night. I know that I am in the minority when I say this but I am happy that she has been able to land back on her feet in the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 16:28:31 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2018 17:25:40 GMT
I like her, but it's sort of grating and lame that she stole Piper's gimmick. It felt cool and reverent as a one-night thing for her debut, but it's cringy when she comes out in full kilt looking like a goober.
As for wrestling, she's improved rapidly in terms of timing and in-ring awareness. I like her act a lot. I just wish she'd make it her own.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Oct 6, 2018 17:35:39 GMT
I like her, but it's sort of grating and lame that she stole Piper's gimmick. It felt cool and reverent as a one-night thing for her debut, but it's cringy when she comes out in full kilt looking like a goober. As for wrestling, she's improved rapidly in terms of timing and in-ring awareness. I like her act a lot. I just wish she'd make it her own. I think that her skills, strength, and speed are all Amazing. I know that it has been almost a year now since it happened but I still to this day can't get over that moment at " WRESTLEMANIA 34" when she actually picked up Triple H. It was Freaking AWESOME!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 6, 2018 17:41:53 GMT
Of course, if the script said so, my Grandmother could be WWE Champ.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2018 17:44:21 GMT
Of course, if the script said so, my Grandmother could be WWE Champ. Your point being?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 6, 2018 18:13:50 GMT
Of course, if the script said so, my Grandmother could be WWE Champ. Your point being? Anyone could look good in wrestling if Vince wants you to look good
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2018 18:27:36 GMT
Anyone could look good in wrestling if Vince wants you to look good Oh, yeah? How many Manias did Lord Tensai main event?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:33:56 GMT
I think she's still cute as f*ck
girl next door cute
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 1:14:49 GMT
She's 100% pure vomit inducing. She can't wrestle worth a shit, or at least when she tries she looks sloppy as hell. She does 3 moves and that's counting her shitty punches. Her "mean mugging" looks like she's got to take a giant shit. She can't cut a promo to save her life. Oh and her "amazing" match at WrestleMania was only "amazing" if you are into comedy wrestling. I swear, your hard on for Lousey is baffling. You change your narrative in any type of way to benefit Lousey every chance you get. You complained how "unrealistic" it was for Stephanie McMahon to grab Lousey from behind and put her through a table. When Stephanie McMahon looks like this mind you. She's fucking jacked. But nope, completely unrealistic and no way could it be believable for Stephanie to do such a thing to Lousey. Yet you then praise how "amazing" it was for Lousey to pick up HHH and beat him up. Excuse me, but how realistic is it for Lousey who is a well known non striker to beat up somebody who looks like this? We all know it's scripted but for the love of god at least be consistent it what you praise and what you find unrealistic. The truth is you just have a hard on for Lousey and anything that makes her look bad (outside of it being herself) is awful and if she took a shit in the middle of the ring you'd praise it as the best shit anyone has ever took.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 7, 2018 1:24:50 GMT
She's 100% pure vomit inducing. She can't wrestle worth a shit, or at least when she tries she looks sloppy as hell. She does 3 moves and that's counting her shitty punches. Her "mean mugging" looks like she's got to take a giant shit. She can't cut a promo to save her life. Oh and her "amazing" match at WrestleMania was only "amazing" if you are into comedy wrestling. I swear, your hard on for Lousey is baffling. Do you agree with me about ripping off Piper? You don't think she's improved in-ring? I do, and I wasn't high on the smoke-and-mirrors Mania match at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 1:29:29 GMT
She's 100% pure vomit inducing. She can't wrestle worth a shit, or at least when she tries she looks sloppy as hell. She does 3 moves and that's counting her shitty punches. Her "mean mugging" looks like she's got to take a giant shit. She can't cut a promo to save her life. Oh and her "amazing" match at WrestleMania was only "amazing" if you are into comedy wrestling. I swear, your hard on for Lousey is baffling. Do you agree with me about ripping off Piper? You don't think she's improved in-ring? I do, and I wasn't high on the smoke-and-mirrors Mania match at all. I don't like it at all but I also don't like anything about her. It's WWE's attempt at giving her some sort of personality or connection to the WWE audience. Piper gave her his jacket once, so in WWE world that makes it ok. Just the same as Charlotte is Ric Flair's daughter so everything she has is simply hand me down's of her father's gimmick. I personally don't think she has. She does the same 3 moves: flurry of punches which look bad and is comical when anyone tries to sell them because she couldn't punch worth a shit in real fighting (UFC), she does a really shitty looking Samoan drop, and an Arm bar. She has yet to show me that she can actually have a decent wrestling match. Her best match was against Nia Jax and that was because Lousey was forced to actually try and sell some offense.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 7, 2018 1:32:57 GMT
Do you agree with me about ripping off Piper? You don't think she's improved in-ring? I do, and I wasn't high on the smoke-and-mirrors Mania match at all. I don't like it at all but I also don't like anything about her. It's WWE's attempt at giving her some sort of personality or connection to the WWE audience. Piper gave her his jacket once, so in WWE world that makes it ok. Just the same as Charlotte is Ric Flair's daughter so everything she has is simply hand me down's of her father's gimmick. I personally don't think she has. She does the same 3 moves: flurry of punches which look bad and is comical when anyone tries to sell them because she couldn't punch worth a shit in real fighting (UFC), she does a really shitty looking Samoan drop, and an Arm bar. She has yet to show me that she can actually have a decent wrestling match. Her best match was against Nia Jax and that was because Lousey was forced to actually try and sell some offense. Yeah, good point about Flair. For a former UFC champ, her striking could definitely look more, well, "real." Her selling against Jax was good, but I thought it was better against Bliss at Hell in a Cell. Are there other female acts you'd rather see pushed instead? Becky, Asuka, etc.?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 1:44:08 GMT
I don't like it at all but I also don't like anything about her. It's WWE's attempt at giving her some sort of personality or connection to the WWE audience. Piper gave her his jacket once, so in WWE world that makes it ok. Just the same as Charlotte is Ric Flair's daughter so everything she has is simply hand me down's of her father's gimmick. I personally don't think she has. She does the same 3 moves: flurry of punches which look bad and is comical when anyone tries to sell them because she couldn't punch worth a shit in real fighting (UFC), she does a really shitty looking Samoan drop, and an Arm bar. She has yet to show me that she can actually have a decent wrestling match. Her best match was against Nia Jax and that was because Lousey was forced to actually try and sell some offense. Yeah, good point about Flair. For a former UFC champ, her striking could definitely look more, well, "real." Her selling against Jax was good, but I thought it was better against Bliss at Hell in a Cell. Are there other female acts you'd rather see pushed instead? Becky, Asuka, etc.? Sasha Banks - In my mind is hands down the best in ring performer the female division has. Becky Lynch - She's probably the most over person in the female division. Pretty much universally loved. She's getting a good push as a heel and Smackdown Champion atm even though the crowd continues to cheer her because like I said, universally loved. Asuka - She was dominant and awesome in NXT. Her strikes and moves unlike Lousey look stiff and impactful. On the main roster she was simply used as yet another notch in Ric Jr's belt of stupid accomplishments. Asuka deserves so much better. Alexa Bliss - While she needs time away from the title picture I'd just like to praise her as the most well developed character. She's also one of 5 people in the WWE (that's including the men) that can cut a damn good promo week in and week out. IIconics - While they're not the best in ring performers I enjoy them so I'd rather see them pushed than Lousey. In truth, there aren't many people in the WWE that I hate more than Lousey, Ric Jr, and Nikki Bella. A lot of that is because I feel like they were handed/gifted so much without rightfully earning them. Lousey gifted the title right out the gate, Ric Jr getting everything because of who her dad is, Nikki Bella getting a record long reign because she was fucking Cena and they wanted to erase AJ Lee from the record book.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 7, 2018 1:57:05 GMT
Yeah, good point about Flair. For a former UFC champ, her striking could definitely look more, well, "real." Her selling against Jax was good, but I thought it was better against Bliss at Hell in a Cell. Are there other female acts you'd rather see pushed instead? Becky, Asuka, etc.? Sasha Banks - In my mind is hands down the best in ring performer the female division has. Becky Lynch - She's probably the most over person in the female division. Pretty much universally loved. She's getting a good push as a heel and Smackdown Champion atm even though the crowd continues to cheer her because like I said, universally loved. Asuka - She was dominant and awesome in NXT. Her strikes and moves unlike Lousey look stiff and impactful. On the main roster she was simply used as yet another notch in Ric Jr's belt of stupid accomplishments. Asuka deserves so much better. Alexa Bliss - While she needs time away from the title picture I'd just like to praise her as the most well developed character. She's also one of 5 people in the WWE (that's including the men) that can cut a damn good promo week in and week out. IIconics - While they're not the best in ring performers I enjoy them so I'd rather see them pushed than Lousey. In truth, there aren't many people in the WWE that I hate more than Lousey, Ric Jr, and Nikki Bella. A lot of that is because I feel like they were handed/gifted so much without rightfully earning them. Lousey gifted the title right out the gate, Ric Jr getting everything because of who her dad is, Nikki Bella getting a record long reign because she was fucking Cena and they wanted to erase AJ Lee from the record book. I thought Sasha was the best worker in NXT when she was down there, but her work since being drafted to Raw has been a step below. I somewhat suspect that a lot of those "perfect" NXT matches were (a) pretty heavily rehearsed and (b) produced by Dusty Rhodes, and she's not quite as good at "calling it in the ring, brother." There's also the issue of her injuring multiple people. Agreed about Becky and the others, particularly Asuka. I feel like Charlotte has at least worked hard to justify the breaks, unlike Rousey who's been blatantly protected and Nikki, who has always been absolute trash in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 2:05:44 GMT
Sasha Banks - In my mind is hands down the best in ring performer the female division has. Becky Lynch - She's probably the most over person in the female division. Pretty much universally loved. She's getting a good push as a heel and Smackdown Champion atm even though the crowd continues to cheer her because like I said, universally loved. Asuka - She was dominant and awesome in NXT. Her strikes and moves unlike Lousey look stiff and impactful. On the main roster she was simply used as yet another notch in Ric Jr's belt of stupid accomplishments. Asuka deserves so much better. Alexa Bliss - While she needs time away from the title picture I'd just like to praise her as the most well developed character. She's also one of 5 people in the WWE (that's including the men) that can cut a damn good promo week in and week out. IIconics - While they're not the best in ring performers I enjoy them so I'd rather see them pushed than Lousey. In truth, there aren't many people in the WWE that I hate more than Lousey, Ric Jr, and Nikki Bella. A lot of that is because I feel like they were handed/gifted so much without rightfully earning them. Lousey gifted the title right out the gate, Ric Jr getting everything because of who her dad is, Nikki Bella getting a record long reign because she was fucking Cena and they wanted to erase AJ Lee from the record book. I thought Sasha was the best worker in NXT when she was down there, but her work since being drafted to Raw has been a step below. I somewhat suspect that a lot of those "perfect" NXT matches were (a) pretty heavily rehearsed and (b) produced by Dusty Rhodes, and she's not quite as good at "calling it in the ring, brother." There's also the issue of her injuring multiple people. Agreed about Becky and the others, particularly Asuka. I feel like Charlotte has at least worked hard to justify the breaks, unlike Rousey who's been blatantly protected and Nikki, who has always been absolute trash in the ring. In regards to Sasha and her NXT work being better, that honestly can be said about everybody that came up through it. They're able to do more things in NXT than they are on RAW and Smackdown. I see it as this, in NXT you're wrestling for the fans and for HHH who runs it. Vince has absolutely nothing to do with NXT so his influence isn't felt there. On the main roster you wrestle a match how Vince wants you to wrestle. There for a lot of the stuff you see in NXT isn't what you're going to see on the main roster. To me NXT is by far the superior product at the moment. It also seems like the bookers and writers on the main roster half the time have no idea what they're doing so big matches that are trying to tell a story (which NXT does amazingly) feel flat.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 7, 2018 2:11:57 GMT
I thought Sasha was the best worker in NXT when she was down there, but her work since being drafted to Raw has been a step below. I somewhat suspect that a lot of those "perfect" NXT matches were (a) pretty heavily rehearsed and (b) produced by Dusty Rhodes, and she's not quite as good at "calling it in the ring, brother." There's also the issue of her injuring multiple people. Agreed about Becky and the others, particularly Asuka. I feel like Charlotte has at least worked hard to justify the breaks, unlike Rousey who's been blatantly protected and Nikki, who has always been absolute trash in the ring. In regards to Sasha and her NXT work being better, that honestly can be said about everybody that came up through it. They're able to do more things in NXT than they are on RAW and Smackdown. I see it as this, in NXT you're wrestling for the fans and for HHH who runs it. Vince has absolutely nothing to do with NXT so his influence isn't felt there. On the main roster you wrestle a match how Vince wants you to wrestle. There for a lot of the stuff you see in NXT isn't what you're going to see on the main roster. To me NXT is by far the superior product at the moment. It also seems like the bookers and writers on the main roster half the time have no idea what they're doing so big matches that are trying to tell a story (which NXT does amazingly) feel flat. Oh, no doubt. I should've qualified or clarified that I feel her work has been disproportionately inferior even against the inevitability that anybody is gonna get "defined down," as Wade Keller often says, when transitioning from NXT to Raw. But maybe I'm just being overly hard on her because I was so enamored of her act before. So truthfully it could also be that she took the normal decline they all do, and I just perceived it to be greater as a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 2:22:20 GMT
In regards to Sasha and her NXT work being better, that honestly can be said about everybody that came up through it. They're able to do more things in NXT than they are on RAW and Smackdown. I see it as this, in NXT you're wrestling for the fans and for HHH who runs it. Vince has absolutely nothing to do with NXT so his influence isn't felt there. On the main roster you wrestle a match how Vince wants you to wrestle. There for a lot of the stuff you see in NXT isn't what you're going to see on the main roster. To me NXT is by far the superior product at the moment. It also seems like the bookers and writers on the main roster half the time have no idea what they're doing so big matches that are trying to tell a story (which NXT does amazingly) feel flat. Oh, no doubt. I should've qualified or clarified that I feel her work has been disproportionately inferior even against the inevitability that anybody is gonna get "defined down," as Wade Keller often says, when transitioning from NXT to Raw. But maybe I'm just being overly hard on her because I was so enamored of her act before. So truthfully it could also be that she took the normal decline they all do, and I just perceived it to be greater as a fan. Sasha is definitely a lot more interesting as a character when she's a heel and goes full go egotistical boss mode which she had in NXT. That's what got me to being a fan of her originally and then the recognition of her in ring work came later. I'm trying to think of her best match on the main roster and I just keep getting Sasha/Bayley Iron Woman match in NXT in my head which was phenomenal. Speaking of Bayley, she has been screwed by WWE's writing staff I think. She was super over in NXT and actually had a story that was being told. Her moment when she finally beat Sasha was a big deal. On the main roster she was killed when she feuded with Alexa. Despite that HORRIBLE Bayley this is your life segment, which honestly might be one of the worst ever. The story they were telling was that Bayley was afraid of a fucking stick. Not afraid of getting hit by the kendo stick. No, she was afraid of using it. She'd grab it and just look at it like it was a fucking goblin or something. It was so fucking stupid and she has never really recovered from that.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 7, 2018 3:02:32 GMT
Oh, no doubt. I should've qualified or clarified that I feel her work has been disproportionately inferior even against the inevitability that anybody is gonna get "defined down," as Wade Keller often says, when transitioning from NXT to Raw. But maybe I'm just being overly hard on her because I was so enamored of her act before. So truthfully it could also be that she took the normal decline they all do, and I just perceived it to be greater as a fan. Sasha is definitely a lot more interesting as a character when she's a heel and goes full go egotistical boss mode which she had in NXT. That's what got me to being a fan of her originally and then the recognition of her in ring work came later. I'm trying to think of her best match on the main roster and I just keep getting Sasha/Bayley Iron Woman match in NXT in my head which was phenomenal. Speaking of Bayley, she has been screwed by WWE's writing staff I think. She was super over in NXT and actually had a story that was being told. Her moment when she finally beat Sasha was a big deal. On the main roster she was killed when she feuded with Alexa. Despite that HORRIBLE Bayley this is your life segment, which honestly might be one of the worst ever. The story they were telling was that Bayley was afraid of a fucking stick. Not afraid of getting hit by the kendo stick. No, she was afraid of using it. She'd grab it and just look at it like it was a fucking goblin or something. It was so fucking stupid and she has never really recovered from that. Yeah, that match was outstanding. I think Bayley's push (or lack thereof) has prolly been the dirt-worst in terms of Vince wasting NXT potential on the main roster.
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Post by Marv on Oct 7, 2018 11:02:11 GMT
I thought Stephanie McMahon was pretty good looking.
Until I saw that picture up there...^
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