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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 16, 2018 17:20:23 GMT
He didn't care much for Halloween II at all. I'm sure you're right. He was probably the one who decided to sack the whole movie. H2 was fine and for whatever reason he didn't like it, is perhaps only something that Carpenter would really understand. For my tastes, it was great how it was a direct continuation of the same night, Myers disappeared and it was feasible how he carried on his reign of terror, including stalking Laurie at the hospital, which is where she rightfully ended up.
The violence and kill scenes were executed with suspense and were well realized and while it wasn't overly graphic, it was still sharp, somewhat bloody and cringe inducing violence. This makes it disturbing. What other slasher from this era depicts the violence in the manner that H2 did and did the kills so well and original? I just rewatched it, and my biggest complaint with it is the fact they overstayed their welcome in the hospital and Michael took way too long to find Laurie. Also, they really overexaggerated Laurie's wounds. Maybe I need to watch the first one again but didn't she just receive a cut on her arm?!?! I don't remember when she hurt her leg/ankle. I feel like Zombie actually did a better job at the hospital scene in his film. While I didn't like how Michael was grunting with each stab, I thought it was extremely suspenseful, and you really felt for Laurie as she was trying to get away as her wounds were more extreme than JLC Laurie in H2 (1981). |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 16, 2018 23:05:49 GMT
H2 was fine and for whatever reason he didn't like it, is perhaps only something that Carpenter would really understand. For my tastes, it was great how it was a direct continuation of the same night, Myers disappeared and it was feasible how he carried on his reign of terror, including stalking Laurie at the hospital, which is where she rightfully ended up.
The violence and kill scenes were executed with suspense and were well realized and while it wasn't overly graphic, it was still sharp, somewhat bloody and cringe inducing violence. This makes it disturbing. What other slasher from this era depicts the violence in the manner that H2 did and did the kills so well and original? I just rewatched it, and my biggest complaint with it is the fact they overstayed their welcome in the hospital and Michael took way too long to find Laurie. Also, they really overexaggerated Laurie's wounds. Maybe I need to watch the first one again but didn't she just receive a cut on her arm?!?! I don't remember when she hurt her leg/ankle. I feel like Zombie actually did a better job at the hospital scene in his film. While I didn't like how Michael was grunting with each stab, I thought it was extremely suspenseful, and you really felt for Laurie as she was trying to get away as her wounds were more extreme than JLC Laurie in H2 (1981). Laurie was slashed by Myers on her shoulder and fell over the balustrade from the top landing if I recall. If anything. That could have also concussed her. In Zombie's H2, Laurie was attacked more viciously from the previous film.
The only real gripe for me was her phony looking wig. 
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Post by Marv on Oct 16, 2018 23:17:45 GMT
Most sequels are.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 6:24:21 GMT
Yeah. I agree with you about the sister/bloodline subplot giving Michael Myers more of a motive and that also worked in 'Halloween 4 and 5' with Jamie Lloyd being Michael Myers niece and I personally think adding that set it apart from a lot of other Horror movies 'cause there are a lot of movies where a character is being chased after by a psychopathic killer but few where that killer is the character's brother or Uncle and if they are going to ignore sequels I would have preferred a sequel to 'Halloween 5' which brought back Danielle Harris as a grownup Jamie Loyd with her Mother, Laurie Strode but I am still looking forward to seeing the movie. That being said I always saw 'Halloween 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 as the original timeline due to Dr Loomis who appeared in all of them and from what I read 'Halloween H20' only happened 'cause Donald Pleasence passed away and Paul Rudd wasn't willing to come back for 7. That lead to them getting Jaime Lee Curtis back to play Laurie Strode again. Interestingly enough too, 'Halloween H20' was never meant to ignore the events of 4, 5 and 6 and there was a deleted scene where Jaime Lloyd's name is mentioned in a report of all the victims Michael has killed and it showed scenes of 'Halloween 4, 5 and 6' and Laurie hears it and runs to the toilet and throws up. The scene was removed due to time and had it not been removed 'H20' would have existed in the original timeline. In the new Halloween trailer—and they really needed a subtitle to go with it, so are they attempting to pass it off as the definitive Halloween of the millennial generation, so they can get it right this time by making more sequels?  —one of the characters mentions that the Strode sister connection was just a myth made up by someone, so if that is the case, then how do they explain Loomis and Myers getting exploded into a ball of fire and killed at the end of H2. Did Myers not even go on his hospital reign of terror? Even the tag line said.....They couldn't stop him, now he's back. Was it someone else doing the killing? Pffffttt! Did Laurie not even go to the hospital after surviving? Did she not end up changing her name and running a private school and had a son?
As far as I'm concerned, Strode is Myers sister and all the sequels alluded to that as well. That said, I'm glad H20 didn't exist in the original timeline. As far as I was concerned, Myers was killed off in 2 and 4, 5 and 6 were pretty abysmal. H20, I saw it as Strode's manifestation of her brother back into her life, due to not letting go. It wasn't really Michael, but just some other copycat Myers killer.
I think they should just leave it at Michael is the bogeyman 'cause it makes him far scarier and a bigger threat 'cause how can you stop a force of evil that can't be killed or is already dead? If Michael was a regular serial killer he would be dead in one shot to the head.  |
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Oct 19, 2018 15:48:53 GMT
The original and Part III are the only good ones. Part 4 and 5 are fun though.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 19, 2018 19:45:25 GMT
It's hard to see how even hardcore 'Halloween' fans will care much about this at this late date. I actually enjoyed most of the sequels, but I can see why the filmmakers would want to shed all that in an attempt to breathe some new life into this dead horse.
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