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Post by uncreative on Oct 10, 2018 16:03:27 GMT
I don't know, but I've done my part. People might judge me for having 15 kids but nobody gives me credit for the 23 people I killed to make up for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 16:29:48 GMT
It's like global warming, one of those things that is so large in scope and complexity that no one person can reliably conclude on the most accurate assessment, much less have a planet of 7 billion come to a consensus. Its wonderful fodder for debate though. Or at least can be under the right mood lighting.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 11, 2018 1:52:59 GMT
People like to think they're special. In every possible way. As a species, country, race, religion, whatever. All true.
Does that mean you'd support population control for all species?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 10:57:42 GMT
I get in two minds about the human population. Part of me looks at things as being what they are and acceptance has to play a big part in this, and the other aspect is that I look a humans and think they are their own worst enemy with how they treat each other and how they raise their kids and perhaps aren't worthy of breeding. Over population perpetuates the suffering on earth.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Oct 12, 2018 7:43:05 GMT
Because they are ignorant and are brainwashed by society to believe that everyone must marry and have kids in order to be happy, and fail to see the many problems that overpopulation is causing.
If we want to improve people's quality of life, population control is something that should definitely be looked into.
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 14:00:31 GMT
Because they are ignorant and are brainwashed by society to believe that everyone must marry and have kids in order to be happy, and fail to see the many problems that overpopulation is causing. If we want to improve people's quality of life, population control is something that should definitely be looked into.How though? We don't have any natural predators and when animals kill each other for food or territory, it's not seen as a big deal, but when we do with its murder. And you know if the government stepped in and made some kind of regulations about how many children people are allowed to have, that would create outrage. |
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Oct 12, 2018 14:08:13 GMT
Because they are ignorant and are brainwashed by society to believe that everyone must marry and have kids in order to be happy, and fail to see the many problems that overpopulation is causing. If we want to improve people's quality of life, population control is something that should definitely be looked into.How though? We don't have any natural predators and when animals kill each other for food or territory, Same way that China did it, but improved. Keep the 1 child limit for couples, and if people want more they must adopt. Also do background checks on people wanting to be parents to make sure they are well off enough to guarantee the child a good life, and to make sure they aren't psychotics. |
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 14:13:18 GMT
How though? We don't have any natural predators and when animals kill each other for food or territory, Same way that China did it, but improved. Keep the 1 child limit for couples, and if people want more they must adopt. Also do background checks on people wanting to be parents to make sure they are well off enough to guarantee the child a good life, and to make sure they aren't psychotics. People in this country would never stand for that kind of government intervention into their personal lives. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 14:16:04 GMT
Same way that China did it, but improved. Keep the 1 child limit for couples, and if people want more they must adopt. Also do background checks on people wanting to be parents to make sure they are well off enough to guarantee the child a good life, and to make sure they aren't psychotics. People in this country would never stand for that kind of government intervention into their personal lives. There's a need for this here? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 12, 2018 14:16:50 GMT
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 14:38:57 GMT
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 14:43:02 GMT
People in this country would never stand for that kind of government intervention into their personal lives. There's a need for this here? A need for what? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 12, 2018 14:45:22 GMT
Well... that's the problem with his argument though. He's not exactly right either. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 14:49:59 GMT
There's a need for this here? A need for what? A need for population control I this country. You said people here wouldn't go for that kind of control, like China did, I'm asking if you think it's needed. |
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 15:15:45 GMT
Well... that's the problem with his argument though. He's not exactly right either. He's not nice, but he's not wrong. Resources are limited, but that doesn't stop people from being greedy, gluttonous, etc. If you take the emotion and the speciest (not sure that's a word) aspect out of the argument and look at it objectively, it's not such an insane idea. We consume more resources than any species on the planet. We pollute the environment more than any species on the planet. Yet, we have no natural predators to keep us in check. As a species, we generally accept culling various animal populations when necessary. But even suggest it for ourselves? Madness! I'm not saying that I could do it, I'm just trying to talk about it from a strictly objective standpoint. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 12, 2018 15:35:22 GMT
Well... that's the problem with his argument though. He's not exactly right either. He's not nice, but he's not wrong. Resources are limited, but that doesn't stop people from being greedy, gluttonous, etc. If you take the emotion and the speciest (not sure that's a word) aspect out of the argument and look at it objectively, it's not such an insane idea. We consume more resources than any species on the planet. We pollute the environment more than any species on the planet. Yet, we have no natural predators to keep us in check. As a species, we generally accept culling various animal populations when necessary. But even suggest it for ourselves? Madness! I'm not saying that I could do it, I'm just trying to talk about it from a strictly objective standpoint. Oh I agree; we're a gluttonous, greedy species and we do NOT live in harmony with nature. In fact we destroy nature for our own needs instead of living within its boundaries.
However...
There ae better ways than to kill off half of all life, or even just half of all human life. For example: resource planning, budgeting and rationing, some regulation and fair re-distribution. We could also stop being assholes to nature. Movements to recycle and save the environment are the start of that. So we're kind've on the way already.
I know, I know, I'm asking for a lot. People cant stop being greedy; especially here in the U.S. where every third person you see is a fat ass.
But we're not over the cliff just yet. It can still be turned around. But only if we all work together. Unfortunately greed and politics are still getting in the way. We'll see what happens...
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 12, 2018 15:55:36 GMT
His reasoning was the dumbest thing I've heard. Part of the problem is they tried desperately to tie alleged population issues in with the entire universe and then showed quite clearly that the universe had plenty of room. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 12, 2018 15:57:13 GMT
His reasoning was the dumbest thing I've heard. Part of the problem is they tried desperately to tie alleged population issues in with the entire universe and then showed quite clearly that the universe had plenty of room. That's true! Every planet they went to was empty!!! LOL |
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 17:02:01 GMT
A need for population control I this country. You said people here wouldn't go for that kind of control, like China did, I'm asking if you think it's needed. It's not a problem like it is in other parts of the world, but it's headed in that direction. Our contribution to pollution and drain on natural resources is pretty sad: www.worldpopulationbalance.org/us_population. Some claim we are already overpopulated. |
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