NormanClature
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"Anyone would think tin-pot-dictatorship is a bad thing???!?"
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 9, 2018 1:05:56 GMT
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Oct 9, 2018 1:18:54 GMT
At Eli’s 7th birthday shindig.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 9, 2018 4:46:22 GMT
I think he is more of an anti hero
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 9, 2018 4:49:11 GMT
I think he is more of an anti hero Wait... Did you just make a post without criticizing the MCU?
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 9, 2018 5:19:49 GMT
I think he is more of an anti hero Wait... Did you just make a post without criticizing the MCU? come on summers8 you have to edit your post with "PS and MCU sucks" as a joke.
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Post by scabab on Oct 9, 2018 6:08:22 GMT
He plays both sides, something that probably started once he had his own comic series.
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 9:18:33 GMT
He’s been an anti hero for years. I’ve never read the books but there have been several people who were Venom. Peter Parker was the first one to bond with the alien but then there was Eddie Brock ( I think, I read those books years ago). After that I lost track but I think Venom sort of became a hero around Maximum Carnage.
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 9, 2018 9:50:21 GMT
By the end of Venom, he isn't even an anti-hero. He likes Eddie because they are "both losers" (WTF?? ), eats baddies, leaves the good guys alone and helps Eddie out with his love life.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 9, 2018 10:28:18 GMT
By the end of Venom, he isn't even an anti-hero. He likes Eddie because they are "both losers" (WTF?? ), eats baddies, leaves the good guys alone and helps Eddie out with his love life. I didn't like his quick turn from self preservation to basically going on a suicide mission vs Riot to save earth. I also didn't like him giving the relationship advice. I think if you eat bad guys you can't exactly be considered a Hero still or a complete "goody." At best you are a vigilante that murders and eats people who are doing bad things.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 9, 2018 13:24:25 GMT
Several decades ago. Heck, he's even teamed up with Spiderman on several occasions.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Oct 10, 2018 0:16:11 GMT
Currently the symbiote is back with Brock and they are in a sort of romance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 2:10:37 GMT
By the end of Venom, he isn't even an anti-hero. He likes Eddie because they are "both losers" (WTF?? ), eats baddies, leaves the good guys alone and helps Eddie out with his love life. Can't be worse than Homecoming giving Spiderman an AI voice to help him with his love life...
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 10, 2018 2:21:11 GMT
He's been a reluctant hero every now and then in the comics, usually teaming up with Spiderman against Carnage. The bigger question should be, since when has Venom been a 'loser'?
And since when have losers been able to take out military commanders in a direct fight?
Edit: scratch that last part, MOS already did it.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 10, 2018 2:54:55 GMT
After his first appearance he showed up in a lot of comics, mostly in Spiderman of course, but then they realized he was popular enough to try giving him his own series. But how do you do that with a villain? So they gave him a mini-series called Venom: Lethal Protector in which he tries being heroic. Since then he's gone back and forth. Then finally they gave him an actual ongoing series at which point it was cemented that he would be a hero. But they still play with him being too loose a cannon to be completely on the side of good. He still kills, for example.
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Post by James on Oct 10, 2018 10:09:37 GMT
I guess he is an anti-hero, but I never saw him actually do “good” things in the past. I mean, maybe he helped Spidey a few times but from what I recall, isn’t the symbiote meant to be evil? Kind of defeats the purpose when your actual hero doesn’t find it first.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Oct 10, 2018 17:00:23 GMT
From the very start, he was all about "protecting innocents". He just hated Spider-Man and would kill anyone who got in his way of revenge against the wall crawler. He had a very twisted sense of ethics and morality, sure, but he was never a completely evil villain. Of course, later on he became more of an anti-hero but he was never a homicidal maniac who only wanted chaos like Carnage.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Nov 1, 2018 14:14:20 GMT
He's been a reluctant hero every now and then in the comics, usually teaming up with Spiderman against Carnage. The bigger question should be, since when has Venom been a 'loser'? And since when have losers been able to take out military commanders in a direct fight? Edit: scratch that last part, MOS already did it. That's why Venom wanted to stay on Earth and protect it. He's a wimp by symbiote standard, but he is much more powerful than humans.
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Nov 1, 2018 14:19:36 GMT
He's been a reluctant hero every now and then in the comics, usually teaming up with Spiderman against Carnage. The bigger question should be, since when has Venom been a 'loser'? And since when have losers been able to take out military commanders in a direct fight? Edit: scratch that last part, MOS already did it. That's why Venom wanted to stay on Earth and protect it. He's a wimp by symbiote standard, but he is much more powerful than humans. A "wimp" who was more than competitive in a fight against a powerful symbiote?! Seriously, WTF??
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