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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 4:11:42 GMT
Hitchcock's The Lady Vanishes (1938) introduced two supporting comic characters, Caldicott (Naunton Wayne) and Charters (Basil Radford) who played amiable but bumbling public school types. They proved so popular that the same actors played the same characters in subsequent movies with unrelated plots (that is, from different "universes", as the current buzzword has it) and with various directors: Night Train to Munich (1940) dir: Carol Reed Crook's Tour (1941) dir: John Baxter (a feeble effort which showed that, successful as they were as a comic turn, they were not able to carry a whole feature film as leads) Millions Like Us (1943) dir: Sidney Gilliat & Frank Launder (cameo appearances) They also played the same characters in The Next of Kin (1942) but their fictional names were not mentioned in the movie or credits. I do not know if this was for copyright reasons or because the makers did not want to import their comic associations into what was a deadly serious propaganda film. I have just watched I See a Dark Stranger (1946) dir: Frank Launder, a very good comic/romantic spy story. A couple of similar characters appear near the end and IMDb informs us that these were intended to be Caldicott and Charters, but Wayne and Radford refused because their parts were too small. In the event, Garry March is very funny as the adulterous Capt. Goodhusband so our heroes were not all missed. So my question is: Are there other examples of the same fictional characters played by the same actors popping up in films with unrelated plots?  |
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Post by mattgarth on Oct 9, 2018 4:17:28 GMT
Not a fictional character, but YANKEE DOODLE's Cagney as 'Cohan' shows up in THE SEVEN LITTLE FOYS to perform a tap dance on the table with Bob Hope.
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Post by OldAussie on Oct 9, 2018 4:22:30 GMT
Michael Keaton as Ray Nicolette in Jackie Brown and Out of Sight.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 9, 2018 4:23:23 GMT
Imteresting list here as well.
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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 4:51:10 GMT
Michael Keaton as Ray Nicolette in Jackie Brown and Out of Sight. Enjoyed both films but do not remember them too well and have not read the original Elmore Leonard novels. However, are you sure they were from different universes? They may well be, I just do not know. Many crime writers use the same "universe" for their stories, with the same characters popping up from time to time. When played by the same actors that is interesting, but not as oddball as the Caldicott/Charters case. |
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Post by OldAussie on Oct 9, 2018 4:57:46 GMT
Michael Keaton as Ray Nicolette in Jackie Brown and Out of Sight. Enjoyed both films but do not remember them too well and have not read the original Elmore Leonard novels. However, are you sure they were from different universes? They may well be, I just do not know. Many crime writers use the same "universe" for their stories, with the same characters popping up from time to time. When played by the same actors that is interesting, but not as oddball as the Caldicott/Charters case. From the same universe, sure, but totally stand-alone movies. Both due for a rewatch as I've got them both at no.1 for my ratings of Tarantino and Soderburgh repectively. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 9, 2018 5:08:26 GMT
Could have sworn Harvey Keitel played the same hitman "Victor the cleaner" in two different movies but looks like I can't verify it.
Maybe I have him confused with Dan Ackroyd in Ghostbusters and Casper.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Oct 9, 2018 6:29:40 GMT
A nameless character is played by Polish actor Artur Barciś in eight of the 10 episodes of the brilliant Polish drama The Decalogue (1988) Krzysztof Kieślowski Retaining an other worldly aura the seemingly random appearances are unrelated, a homeless man, a hospital orderly, a tram driver, construction worker, student , shopper. he observes the main characters at key moments, but mysteriously he never intervenes ? … Dekalog #1 the homeless man Artur Barciś  |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 9, 2018 7:57:00 GMT
ONE MORE TIME 1970 featuring Christopher Lee as Dracula and Peter Cushing as Frankenstein.
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Post by telegonus on Oct 9, 2018 9:26:53 GMT
Tor Johnson played a character named Lobo in three films, Bride Of The Monster, The Unearthly and Night Of The Ghouls. Since he looked somewhat similar in most of his movie appearances it's difficult to tell whether it's supposed to be the same name, different character or something else. He strikes me as the same character in these three and a few other films in which he played a virtually identical character with a different name.
I think this qualifies: Keye Luke played Lee Chan, Number 1 son of Charlie, in several entries in the Fox Charlie Chan detective series movies. In 1938 he played the same character in a Mr. Moto picture, Mr. Moto's Gamble, also in a Fox series of films about an Asian detective, not about Lee Chan, who merely makes a "guest appearance" (as it were) early in the film. There is clearly a connection between this films and the Chan series, due to Mr. Luke's playing the younger Chan, however it is in another series, channels the Chans, is not in that series.
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 9, 2018 10:09:51 GMT
The two homeless guys given money by Eddie Murphy's Prince Akeem in Coming to America are the Duke brothers (Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy), who were conned out of their fortune by a different Murphy character in Trading Places.
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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 13:29:19 GMT
The two homeless guys given money by Eddie Murphy's Prince Akeem in Coming to America are the Duke brothers (Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy), who were conned out of their fortune by a different Murphy character in Trading Places. Perfect example of what I was looking for. Thanks. |
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 9, 2018 14:29:49 GMT
Not sure if these fit, but Martin Sheen played Captain Willard in Apocalypse Now and then played the same character (briefly) in Hot Shots Part Deux.
Robert Patrick played the T-1000 in Terminator 2 and then played the same character in Wayne's World.
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Post by teleadm on Oct 9, 2018 17:37:54 GMT
 Naunton Wayne and Basil Radford also popped up in the relief or lighter episode in Dead of Night 1945 |
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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 17:46:52 GMT
Could have sworn Harvey Keitel played the same hitman "Victor the cleaner" in two different movies but looks like I can't verify it. I too read somewhere that the Wolf was scripted to re-appear. Whatever film it was has never been released. I guess may never happen now because he is 79. I handed over cleaning tasks to my better half in my mid-fifties because of (alleged) back pains.  |
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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 17:51:19 GMT
Naunton Wayne and Basil Radford also popped up in the relief or lighter episode in Dead of Night 1945 But not as "Charters and Caldicott". I presume they played a similar pair of twits? Forty years since I have seen it. |
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Post by teleadm on Oct 9, 2018 17:57:42 GMT
 Herbert Marshall plays a character named Geoffrey Wolfe in The Moon and the Sixpence 1942, based on author W. Somerset Maugham.  In The Razor's Edge 1946, Herbert plays W. Somerset Maugham without any alias character name. Both movies were based on novels by W. Somerset Maugham. |
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Post by teleadm on Oct 9, 2018 18:02:06 GMT
Naunton Wayne and Basil Radford also popped up in the relief or lighter episode in Dead of Night 1945 But not as "Charters and Caldicott". I presume they played a similar pair of twits? Forty years since I have seen it.I would call them similiar, this time the sport was golf, but this time their safe little world are disrupted by a girl. |
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Post by london777 on Oct 9, 2018 18:02:57 GMT
Not sure if these fit, but Martin Sheen played Captain Willard in Apocalypse Now and then played the same character (briefly) in Hot Shots Part Deux. Robert Patrick played the T-1000 in Terminator 2 and then played the same character in Wayne's World. Good shout. Hot Shots 2 was a spoof of Rambo-type movies. I think Sheen's appearance under that name was just a cinematic in-joke rather than expecting anyone to seriously believe he was the same character. Patrick was not called "T-1000" in Wayne's World, just "Bad Cop". Again a cinematic in-joke. Interesting how many variations on a theme we have already come up with. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 9, 2018 18:17:50 GMT
Was not this
"The two homeless guys given money by Eddie Murphy's Prince Akeem in Coming to America are the Duke brothers (Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy), who were conned out of their fortune by a different Murphy character in Trading Places."
also a "cinematic in-joke" much like the Sheen and Patrick appearances in HotShots2 and Wayne's World ?
I don't see the difference as all three were basically cameo appearances for comedic character recognition effect.
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