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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 8:57:23 GMT
Why has this become a thing? Movies have bombed since movies have been shown for money.
Why is it a female centric movie like Alien or Aliens or Terminator or Halloween could be a hit 30-40 years ago......but people use hating women as an excuse for GB 2016 failing?
Why is it people loved Princess Leia but if they don't like Rose Tico they're racist or hate women? Why, because some 14 year old troll on Twitter called her "ugly" or used a racist term? There's billions of people on social media....why do so many want to act like the worst represent the majority? Or if something is said on Twitter it's worthy of consideration?
I'm just baffled by the excuses people make for movies bombing nowadays. TLJ sucks. Ghostbusters 2016 sucked. It's that simple. They're bad movies and when you start attacking your audience (I'm looking right at you Paul Feig) IN THE FILM you're asking for trouble at the BO.
Leave the politics out. Nobody cares if there are women or minorities if the movie is good. What's more is it's nothing new. Star Trek had women in positions of power and minorities 50 years ago. Everyone loves Star Trek.
I mean it's gotten so bad Rian Johnson is posting links to a "study" that shows Russian trolls were responsible for the reaction his movie got. How sad and pathetic is that?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 9, 2018 9:02:37 GMT
You’re a bullshit artist!
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 9, 2018 9:05:34 GMT
Well you have to blame somebody, when you are not able to see that your movie is crap.
But i do think there are people who hates a movie simply because there is a female lead, just as i think there are some people who loves a movie simply because there is a female lead.
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Post by ck100 on Oct 9, 2018 9:46:09 GMT
It's not out of the realm of possibility for some of those things to impact a movie at the box office.
And I like Ghostbusters 2016. Yes, really.
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 10:08:01 GMT
You’re a bullshit artist! I could feast on that queen’s ass all night long |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 10:15:41 GMT
Well you have to blame somebody, when you are not able to see that your movie is crap. But i do think there are people who hates a movie simply because there is a female lead, just as i think there are some people who loves a movie simply because there is a female lead. I'm sure there are people that hate movies with female leads.....but they aren't making a good movie bomb or fail. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 10:17:28 GMT
It's not out of the realm of possibility for some of those things to impact a movie at the box office. And I like Ghostbusters 2016. Yes, really. Is "in the realm of possibility" the standard now? Is someone just not liking a movie "in the realm of possibility"? You should have bought more tickets for GB because nobody else did. |
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Post by ck100 on Oct 9, 2018 10:27:43 GMT
It's not out of the realm of possibility for some of those things to impact a movie at the box office. And I like Ghostbusters 2016. Yes, really. Is "in the realm of possibility" the standard now? Is someone just not liking a movie "in the realm of possibility"? You should have bought more tickets for GB because nobody else did. It always has been a standard if not the absolute one. That's always been a part of that and always will be. The quality of a movie matters to me more than ticket sales. I like the movie, still do, and will stand by liking it. That's fine if you don't like it. To each his own. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 10:30:45 GMT
Is "in the realm of possibility" the standard now? Is someone just not liking a movie "in the realm of possibility"? You should have bought more tickets for GB because nobody else did. It always has been a standard if not the absolute one. That's always been a part of that and always will be. The quality of a movie matters to me more than ticket sales. I like the movie, still do, and will stand by liking it. That's fine if you don't like it. To each his own. So you honestly think it's possible "Russian bots" helped TLJ fail so badly critically? Thanks for letting me know I don't have to like GB 2016 though. |
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Post by ck100 on Oct 9, 2018 10:39:59 GMT
It always has been a standard if not the absolute one. That's always been a part of that and always will be. The quality of a movie matters to me more than ticket sales. I like the movie, still do, and will stand by liking it. That's fine if you don't like it. To each his own. So you honestly think it's possible "Russian bots" helped TLJ fail so badly critically? Thanks for letting me know I don't have to like GB 2016 though. If not impossible than likely improbable. You already knew that, but nothing wrong with being reminded of something like this since some people forget something like this. It's always been different strokes for different folks when it comes to liking certain films. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 10:43:49 GMT
So you honestly think it's possible "Russian bots" helped TLJ fail so badly critically? Thanks for letting me know I don't have to like GB 2016 though. If not impossible than likely improbable. You already knew that, but nothing wrong with being reminded of something like this since some people forget something like this. It's always been different strokes for different folks when it comes to liking certain films. The "Russians" didn't make TLJ fail. It's not "impossible" but it's absurd and you'd have to be an idiot to take those claims seriously. And of course I knew I didn't have to like GB 2016....so ....why did you feel the need to tell me? GB 2016 is just an unfunny remake of the original. It's not only bad but utterly pointless except to make money and it failed miserably at that. |
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2018 12:42:42 GMT
Why has this become a thing? This has never been a thing. This phenomenon exists only in your imagination. What's sad and pathetic is your disconnect from reality. First of all, until you can point to scientific flaws in the study itself, you have no case to shrug it off. You haven't even read it and you never will--so shut the fuck up about it until you have. Secondly, no one, not even the study itself, said that Russian trolls "were responsible for the reaction his movie got". All it said was that they contributed to the reaction on social media. Can you show that this is not true? Nope, you can't. Case closed. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 12:44:25 GMT
Why has this become a thing? This has never been a thing. This phenomenon exists only in your imagination. What's sad and pathetic is your disconnect from reality. First of all, until you can point to scientific flaws in the study itself, you have no case to shrug it off. You haven't even read it and you never will--so shut the fuck up about it until you have. Secondly, no one, not even the study itself, said that Russian trolls "were responsible for the reaction his movie got". All it said was that they contributed to the reaction on social media. Can you show that this is not true? Nope, you can't. Case closed. No, it is a thing. There was just a story about it which is why I brought it up. Glad you live in reality. |
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2018 12:45:29 GMT
TLJ did not fail critically, shit for brains. It has a score of 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is very hard to achieve. It was a success by every single objective measure. |
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2018 12:47:15 GMT
No, it is a thing. There was just a story about it which is why I brought it up. Prove it by showing that there is a trend of critics or significant commentators who have actually said any of this crap in their own words. Good luck with that. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 12:48:33 GMT
TLJ did not fail critically, shit for brains. It has a score of 91% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is very hard to achieve. It was a success by every single objective measure. Yeah....about that RT score.....as usual you don't mention the audience's. Oh wait, that one doesn't count lol. Right? Dude, just stop. Go tell it to somebody who takes you seriously. I feel like I'm picking on a retard every time I talk to you. TLJ had a horrible critical reaction from non paid shills. That's simply a fact. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 12:51:29 GMT
No, it is a thing. There was just a story about it which is why I brought it up. Prove it by showing that there is a trend of critics or significant commentators who have actually said any of this crap in their own words. Good luck with that. Good luck with pretending TLJ didn't bomb critically and financially. 70% drop off from TFA dude. Despite having similar opening. People hated it. It carried over to Solo which of course was the first SW to lose money. Do tell me again how TLJ has a "90% rating" though lol. You're looney tunes dude. |
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Post by faustus5 on Oct 9, 2018 12:54:54 GMT
Yeah....about that RT score.....as usual you don't mention the audience's. Oh wait, that one doesn't count lol. Right? Dude, just stop. Go tell it to somebody who takes you seriously. I feel like I'm picking on a retard every time I talk to you. TLJ had a horrible critical reaction from non paid shills. That's simply a fact. Audience scores are complete bullshit. An editor at Rotten Tomatoes has even publicly admitted it. The reasons are as follows: 1. You don't have to have seen the movie to enter a score. RT and other sites like IMDB often start showing reviews and audience scores before a movie has been in theaters, so we know people are lying. 2. You can make multiple accounts and vote several times. In the case of TLJ, we know this has happened because the idiots who did it have bragged about it.3. Users are anonymous, have no reputations to protect, and aren't known for their knowledge of film. They can be hysterical haters and hysterical fanboys, unlike professional critics. And by the way, fucking moron, you have no evidence whatsoever that any professional critic is a "paid shill" This is just conspiracy theory bullshit you people pull out of your asses because your opinions are in the minority. |
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 9, 2018 12:55:58 GMT
Yeah....about that RT score.....as usual you don't mention the audience's. Oh wait, that one doesn't count lol. Right? Dude, just stop. Go tell it to somebody who takes you seriously. I feel like I'm picking on a retard every time I talk to you. TLJ had a horrible critical reaction from non paid shills. That's simply a fact. Audience scores are complete bullshit. An editor at Rotten Tomatoes has even publicly admitted it. The reasons are as follows: 1. You don't have to have seen the movie to enter a score. RT and other sites like IMDB often start showing reviews and audience scores before a movie has been in theaters, so we know people are lying. 2. You can make multiple accounts and vote several times. In the case of TLJ, we know this has happened because the idiots who did it have bragged about it.3. Users are anonymous, have no reputations to protect, and aren't known for their knowledge of film. They can be hysterical haters and hysterical fanboys, unlike professional critics. And by the way, fucking moron, you have no evidence whatsoever that any professional critic is a "paid shill" This is just conspiracy theory bullshit you people pull out of your asses because your opinions are in the minority. Of course, the audience scores that show people hated TLJ are complete bullshit lol. You're right, as usual. I don't know why I was laughing at you before. You can move on now. |
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Post by hanswilm on Oct 9, 2018 12:56:07 GMT
I've only heard that with the Star Wars film.
That's the time we live in....the fake virtue mobs out there who want to feel morally superior to everyone without really doing anything of virtue except to label everyone racists, bigots, sexists, women haters.....etc. just fling these words about endlessly now a days. They feel so bold and have the gall to think THEY are the arbiters and judges who get to decide what humans have worth and which ones don't.
Basically they are calling Star Wars fans these things. The people who have loved the movies for years. They had no problem with Lando and a strong, decisive, leader in Princess Leia....but now if people hated The Last Jedi.....it has to be because of the fans suddenly turning into "bad" people.
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