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Post by progressiveelement on Oct 10, 2018 9:14:54 GMT
If I am living in it.
Which narrows it down to the UK, and in the past, Germany. 😀
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 10, 2018 11:10:10 GMT
All I know is the fact that because of Muslims, there are now interracial commercials playing on TV. |
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Post by drystyx on Oct 10, 2018 14:41:09 GMT
I said "something else", because while "sense of identity" is close, that sense of identity is always going to be of the flesh, which means a desire to be divisive.
For example, the U.S. sense of identity is divisiveness and being anti-team. That kind of identity makes a country anything but great. The U.S. has the greatest resources and should be the greatest, but flails miserably from "anti team" identity. A lot of nations have naturally hostile environments. Their crocodiles are larger than American alligators. Their tigers more dangerous than wildcats. Their rivers harder to manage, mountains harder to tame. Then there are the snakes. Who would trade America's snakes for those of Asia or Australia?
But I assume you mean what makes a country "great" aside from the natural resources.
"Identity" would be the answer, if the identity is based on being pro team instead of being a lynch mob. If you don't have the holy ghost as your identity, you're doomed to desiring to form a lynch mob.
When the identity is "the Holy Ghost' that means we improve who we are. When it is not the holy Ghost, it means we look to bring others down, and since that is demon based, it means we have no control over ourselves, and we just bring down whomever is easiest. It's easiest to attack a teammate who trusts you with his back than the enemy who faces you. That's what Western culture is.
Yet there are still raving lunatics who deny this, proving my point, that they are out of control.
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Post by general313 on Oct 10, 2018 14:46:50 GMT
Having a good scapegoat makes a country great, for example Nazi Germany and the Jews, or the United States and Muslims.
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Post by thefleetsin on Oct 10, 2018 14:52:40 GMT
Having a good scapegoat makes a country great, for example Nazi Germany and the Jews, or the United States and Muslims. religion always has to ruin everything. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 10, 2018 15:04:31 GMT
Having a good scapegoat makes a country great, for example Nazi Germany and the Jews, or the United States and Muslims. religion always has to ruin everything. Its not religion itself that ruins anything its religious people that ruins everything. And just for the record i am not religious. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Oct 10, 2018 15:17:40 GMT
religion always has to ruin everything. Its not religion itself that ruins anything its religious people that ruins everything. And just for the record i am not religious. i would disagree. these religious people have been indoctrinated into believing that their particular brand of belief is the be all and end all to their very existence on earth. and this is delusional thinking of the highest order from the get-go. religion is a cancer squirming on a blue ball as it hurtles through a universe completely capable of looking after itself. holy wars and overworked whores...holy wars and overworked whores. . . |
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Post by general313 on Oct 10, 2018 15:24:08 GMT
religion always has to ruin everything. Its not religion itself that ruins anything its religious people that ruins everything. And just for the record i am not religious. That's like saying that guns without people are perfectly safe. Atomic bombs by themselves don't devastate the planet, it's atomic bomb possessing people that do. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 10, 2018 15:26:02 GMT
Its not religion itself that ruins anything its religious people that ruins everything. And just for the record i am not religious. That's like saying that guns without people are perfectly safe. Atomic bombs by themselves don't devastate the planet, it's atomic bomb possessing people that do. Yes i know its never peoples fault. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Oct 10, 2018 15:32:00 GMT
holy wars and overworked whores
while muhammad and jesus
were
busy tossing out pieces
of the book of mormon
from their giant dorm room
soaring over
the current holy happening
in the united states
everyone was busy
desperately searching for
an amazing grace
spoken of quite frankly from
the muzzle pointing at
the center a swollen face
that used to be quite certain
until yet another god
entered the race.
sjw 10/10/18 inspired at this very moment in time by the fertilizer crystallizing around the roots of oh so many evils.
from the 'blasphemy series' of poems
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Post by THawk on Oct 10, 2018 16:10:16 GMT
The accomplishments of its heroes.
Which is why the US does its best to ignore world history. Its accomplishments are genocide and drone strikes. And any real heroes it's had have all had to fight against its own system. SAD.
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Post by maya55555 on Oct 10, 2018 16:28:43 GMT
SIZE?
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2018 20:19:54 GMT
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Post by Cody™ on Oct 10, 2018 20:22:14 GMT
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2018 20:32:56 GMT
This is a no brainer. It's law as founded in the Bill of Rights. The U.S. is the only country which has enshrined individual rights as clearly as was done in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I have to agree with you however with a few provisos. 1. The United States constitution could and should be more flexible, not in absolute rights like human rights butt in updating to suit a modern society. Of course I am speaking about gun laws which are archaic and only suited to a rural establishing society and not one where everyone lives on top of each other and is multiracial plural with unequal opportunity due to poverty. 2. Whilst the US has these rights enshrined it has only laid down the foundations for a 'happier' society, yet that is currently NOT the case. US needs a better political system to back up its great Constitutional system. 3. I am not actually certain this is strictly true, however you might be interested to now that a cousin of mine Geoffrey Robertson QC has written a book entitled 'The Statute of Liberty - how Australians can take back their rights', advocating a similar course for Australia in following the American lead in this department. |
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2018 20:58:40 GMT
That is an incredibly biased site. All you have to do is read the 'About' section and see that it starts from some premises based about the Muslim religion that are partisan and not factual...in fact although they claim the opposite the site is a propaganda site against Muslims.IMHO www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspxI know you can't see it however it is merely accentuating the more archaic aspects of Islam that is exhibited by a worrying fundamentalist element. As described previously, Islam missed out of the awakening of the philosophies of the Enlightenment and the Renaissance which occurred in Europe ( part of which was founded on the scientific and mathematical advances in knowledge initiated by the scholars of Islam in the Iberian Peninsular over the prior centuries.) It is therefore seen by modern scholars as backward in some areas of human rights and sociological advances of the West. Recent history of Western clashes (particularly USA and Russia) have led to a rise in the fundamentalism, civil war and a feeling by many Muslims in the Middle East that their countries, religion, oil and societies were under Western threat As someone said above in this thread about needing an enemy and a scapegoat, I believe that USA uses Muslims like Nazi Germany used the Jews and fools like you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. Same in UK where the alt right has used the unfortunate humanitarian crisis caused by the invasion and war in Syria to cause mass immigration to UK and Europe It is so easy to propagandise Muslims as the enemy, uncivilised and dangerous when only a tiny proportion of their number actually are. The rest are people wanting a better life for themselves and their families just like you and me. As a Christian I thought you might have understood these matters of loving and helping thy neighbour, however it seems that we atheists will have to be the compassionate ones in this case whilst you lot are so busy being fearful and swallowing the hateful propaganda you are fed. |
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Post by Cody™ on Oct 10, 2018 21:39:31 GMT
That is an incredibly biased site.
All you have to do is read the 'About' section and see that it starts from some premises based about the Muslim religion that are partisan and not factual...in fact although they claim the opposite the site is a propaganda site against Muslims.IMHO
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspxI know you can't see it however it is merely accentuating the more archaic aspects of Islam that is exhibited by a worrying fundamentalist element. As described previously, Islam missed out of the awakening of the philosophies of the Enlightenment and the Renaissance which occurred in Europe ( part of which was founded on the scientific and mathematical advances in knowledge initiated by the scholars of Islam in the Iberian Peninsular over the prior centuries.) It is therefore seen by modern scholars as backward in some areas of human rights and sociological advances of the West. Recent history of Western clashes (particularly USA and Russia) have led to a rise in the fundamentalism, civil war and a feeling by many Muslims in the Middle East that their countries, religion, oil and societies were under Western threat As someone said above in this thread about needing an enemy and a scapegoat, I believe that USA uses Muslims like Nazi Germany used the Jews and fools like you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. Same in UK where the alt right has used the unfortunate humanitarian crisis caused by the invasion and war in Syria to cause mass immigration to UK and Europe It is so easy to propagandise Muslims as the enemy, uncivilised and dangerous when only a tiny proportion of their number actually are. The rest are people wanting a better life for themselves and their families just like you and me. As a Christian I thought you might have understood these matters of loving and helping thy neighbour, however it seems that we atheists will have to be the compassionate ones in this case whilst you lot are so busy being fearful and swallowing the hateful propaganda you are fed. It’s actually astounding just how much of an idiot you are. There really is no reasoning with somebody in denial like you. Don’t know why I bother with you. |
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2018 22:11:14 GMT
That is an incredibly biased site.
All you have to do is read the 'About' section and see that it starts from some premises based about the Muslim religion that are partisan and not factual...in fact although they claim the opposite the site is a propaganda site against Muslims.IMHO
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspxI know you can't see it however it is merely accentuating the more archaic aspects of Islam that is exhibited by a worrying fundamentalist element. As described previously, Islam missed out of the awakening of the philosophies of the Enlightenment and the Renaissance which occurred in Europe ( part of which was founded on the scientific and mathematical advances in knowledge initiated by the scholars of Islam in the Iberian Peninsular over the prior centuries.) It is therefore seen by modern scholars as backward in some areas of human rights and sociological advances of the West. Recent history of Western clashes (particularly USA and Russia) have led to a rise in the fundamentalism, civil war and a feeling by many Muslims in the Middle East that their countries, religion, oil and societies were under Western threat As someone said above in this thread about needing an enemy and a scapegoat, I believe that USA uses Muslims like Nazi Germany used the Jews and fools like you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. Same in UK where the alt right has used the unfortunate humanitarian crisis caused by the invasion and war in Syria to cause mass immigration to UK and Europe It is so easy to propagandise Muslims as the enemy, uncivilised and dangerous when only a tiny proportion of their number actually are. The rest are people wanting a better life for themselves and their families just like you and me. As a Christian I thought you might have understood these matters of loving and helping thy neighbour, however it seems that we atheists will have to be the compassionate ones in this case whilst you lot are so busy being fearful and swallowing the hateful propaganda you are fed. It’s actually astounding just how much of an idiot you are. There really is no reasoning with somebody in denial like you. Don’t know why I bother with you. ...and I feel exactly the same about you except more so!  edit: Fortunately I have the work of erudite, knowledgeable and educated scholars in history geography religious studies and sociology on my side rather than modern day propagandists. |
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Post by gameboy on Oct 11, 2018 4:04:24 GMT
This is a no brainer. It's law as founded in the Bill of Rights. The U.S. is the only country which has enshrined individual rights as clearly as was done in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I have to agree with you however with a few provisos. 1. The United States constitution could and should be more flexible, not in absolute rights like human rights butt in updating to suit a modern society. Of course I am speaking about gun laws which are archaic and only suited to a rural establishing society and not one where everyone lives on top of each other and is multiracial plural with unequal opportunity due to poverty. 2. Whilst the US has these rights enshrined it has only laid down the foundations for a 'happier' society, yet that is currently NOT the case. US needs a better political system to back up its great Constitutional system. 3. I am not actually certain this is strictly true, however you might be interested to now that a cousin of mine Geoffrey Robertson QC has written a book entitled 'The Statute of Liberty - how Australians can take back their rights', advocating a similar course for Australia in following the American lead in this department. The beauty of the American Constitution is that it can be interpreted by the courts to suit the times. That's why abortion was legalized. It was interpreted as a right to privacy of a woman's body guaranteed in the 4th Amendment. When the 4th Amendment was written in the 18th century no one would have argued it legalized abortion. Yet because our courts can change constitutional interpretation to suit our modern times, it's a guaranteed right of women now. I admire British law and it is the foundation of the American system. When the Bill of Rights was written in the 18th century, no other country had such provisions for individual freedom. Other nations have followed suit. But it was a revolutionary idea which originated with the U.S. Constitution. I really see the former British Empire, including the U.S. and Australia et al, as the most progressive and free society which has ever existed on the face of the earth. Kudos to the English-speaking world! |
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Post by goz on Oct 11, 2018 4:14:35 GMT
I have to agree with you however with a few provisos. 1. The United States constitution could and should be more flexible, not in absolute rights like human rights butt in updating to suit a modern society. Of course I am speaking about gun laws which are archaic and only suited to a rural establishing society and not one where everyone lives on top of each other and is multiracial plural with unequal opportunity due to poverty. 2. Whilst the US has these rights enshrined it has only laid down the foundations for a 'happier' society, yet that is currently NOT the case. US needs a better political system to back up its great Constitutional system. 3. I am not actually certain this is strictly true, however you might be interested to now that a cousin of mine Geoffrey Robertson QC has written a book entitled 'The Statute of Liberty - how Australians can take back their rights', advocating a similar course for Australia in following the American lead in this department. The beauty of the American Constitution is that it can be interpreted by the courts to suit the times. That's why abortion was legalized. It was interpreted as a right to privacy of a woman's body guaranteed in the 4th Amendment. When the 4th Amendment was written in the 18th century no one would have argued it legalized abortion. Yet because our courts can change constitutional interpretation to suit our modern times, it's a guaranteed right of women now. I admire British law and it is the foundation of the American system. When the Bill of Rights was written in the 18th century, no other country had such provisions for individual freedom. Other nations have followed suit. But it was a revolutionary idea which originated with the U.S. Constitution. I really see the former British Empire, including the U.S. and Australia et al, as the most progressive and free society which has ever existed on the face of the earth. Kudos to the English-speaking world! ...until Trump and his building up a shonky Supreme Court with his sycophants! |
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