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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2018 4:21:13 GMT
This topic & poll was inspired, of course, by Feologild's topic & poll. However, I felt that this one would be more appropriate for this message forum (I think Feologild really should have put his in the politics or another message forum, rather than this one.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 10, 2018 4:25:16 GMT
I was initially tempted to answer "It's Values" but then thought of what use are those values if majority of religious people do not adhere to them or the values are in some way present in other religions or secular philosophies as well?
I chose the last answer. I believe religions are not really great for everyone even though they can bring good in many individuals. But it is usually combination of many things and not just one particular thing that would make a religion good for certain individuals. Tolerance though would be a very important value.
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Post by goz on Oct 10, 2018 4:34:43 GMT
'Something Else'
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minding its own business.
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Post by clusium on Oct 10, 2018 4:34:43 GMT
I was initially tempted to answer "It's Values" but then thought of what use are those values if majority of religious people do not adhere to them or the values are in some way present in other religions or secular philosophies as well? I chose the last answer. I believe religions are not really great for everyone even though they can bring good in many individuals. But it is usually combination of many things and not just one particular thing that would make a religion good for certain individuals. Tolerance though would be a very important value. If the majority of the adherents do not live up to those values, then its their own personal failings (ditto with the "country poll"). As you noted, Tolerance is a very good value to have, but, not everyone can or even is, tolerant. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 11, 2018 3:15:52 GMT
I was stuck between values and teachings, so I voted for teachings.  |
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Post by clusium on Oct 11, 2018 3:17:18 GMT
I was stuck between values and teachings, so I voted for teachings. Yeah, sometimes that's what happens with polls, when we create them. |
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Post by phludowin on Oct 11, 2018 10:04:57 GMT
Something else:
Its ability to make people feel good and to create happiness without causing harm.
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Post by mslo79 on Oct 11, 2018 10:21:59 GMT
It's Truth. Christianity, and more specifically Catholicism, is the truth as it was basically started by Jesus Christ, who is God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)), who put Peter as the first pope and then it went down through the generations til today... www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm (list of popes) Catholicism is not the easiest religion to follow but it's the truth... |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 11, 2018 10:38:20 GMT
Libertinism. Especially if church orgies are part of worshipping.
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Post by Arlon10 on Oct 11, 2018 10:44:32 GMT
Shamrocks. Just kidding. Actually I think an important part of a religion is its buildings. I know people often say that is the wrong focus. The building is just a material necessity. Not everyone in the building is very religious. Some people not in the building nevertheless follow the teachings especially well, except maybe the rule about going to the building. I understand all that and agree in principle. I still think the building says a lot about the people who built it. Synagogues Cathedrals Angkor Wat Grand Mosque |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 11:42:27 GMT
There are no great religions.
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Post by Arlon10 on Oct 11, 2018 12:00:53 GMT
There are no great religions. What about that one with the shamrocks? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 12:09:39 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 12:12:30 GMT
It's Truth. Christianity, and more specifically Catholicism, is the truth as it was basically started by Jesus Christ, who is God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)), who put Peter as the first pope and then it went down through the generations til today... www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm (list of popes) Catholicism is not the easiest religion to follow but it's the truth...Please present me evidence of this truth you speak of that is Christianity, especially Catholicism. Are you still deciding on your membership into the Westboro Baptist Chruch? |
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Post by clusium on Oct 11, 2018 13:18:05 GMT
There are no great religions. Where have you been locked up, all your life?!?!?!  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 13:33:50 GMT
There are no great religions. Where have you been locked up, all your life?!?!?! Greatness is about egoism. Is that what this is about? |
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Post by skribb on Oct 11, 2018 13:35:09 GMT
its non-existence
spirituality: fundamental to the human experience
religion: weaponized, toxic spirituality
EDIT: mah vote is "something else"
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Post by clusium on Oct 11, 2018 13:43:48 GMT
Where have you been locked up, all your life?!?!?! Greatness is about egoism. Is that what this is about? No, greatness does not necessarily mean egoism. In fact, in a lot of cases, a person has to make great sacrifices of themselves, in order to do something really great. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 11, 2018 13:46:08 GMT
its non-existence spirituality: fundamental to the human experience religion: weaponized, toxic spirituality EDIT: mah vote is "something else" I do not know why some people to go to great lengths to differentiate between spirituality & religion, when spirituality is a major component of religion. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 11, 2018 13:47:48 GMT
Greatness is about egoism. Is that what this is about? No, greatness does not necessarily mean egoism. In fact, in a lot of cases, a person has to make great sacrifices of themselves, in order to do something really great. Is the sacrifice born out of a humbling nature— like the fable of Christ—and not born out of a sense of personal superiority over others, with self-serving agendas and conditions and expectations placed on it— like the Catholic Church. |
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