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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 11, 2018 2:50:06 GMT
I am being completely serious here. I want to know your opinion on each of the following. There is no absolutely wrong or right answer. I am just curious how you think people will react. If you are going to use this to Troll another fandom please don't. What would be the reaction if James Gunn's Suicide Squad 2 is: - a big hit financially say $860m world wide. (that would make it the highest grossing DCEU movie)
- a critical darling say Rotten Tomatoes 90% with a rating of a 8.0 out 10.
- a movie seemingly loved by people who are polled right after seeing it. (I don't want to say a general audience darling as most of the audience scores are based off of unscientific polls)
How would these groups/people react? - Right Wing blogosphere/Twittersphere/Facebook Posters
- Left Wing media
- General Audience
- General Comicbook fans
- DCEU fans*
- MCU Fans*
- Fanatics against DCEU
- Fanatics against MCU
- Teacher/Child Advocates
* These 2 categories are people who prefer one fandom over another, but still enjoy other companies movies. These aren't rabid fanatics. I went with fanatics against a certain company because rabid fanatics aren't positive about their fandom they are angry at someone else's. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 11, 2018 3:00:44 GMT
What would be the reaction if James Gunn's Suicide Squad 2 is: - a big hit financially say $860m world wide. (that would make it the highest grossing DCEU movie)
- a critical darling say Rotten Tomatoes 90% with a rating of a 8.0 out 10.
- a movie seemingly loved by people who are polled right after seeing it. (I don't want to say a general audience darling as most of the audience scores are based off of unscientific polls)
How would these groups/people react? - MCU Fans
- Fanatics against DCEU
MCU fanatics against DCEU would try to take credit for it by saying that it took a Marvel guy to make a good DCEU movie. They did it with Justice League by saying that the only good parts of the movie were when it was more humorous or lighter "like a Marvel movie".
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 11, 2018 3:15:59 GMT
What would be the reaction if James Gunn's Suicide Squad 2 is: - a big hit financially say $860m world wide. (that would make it the highest grossing DCEU movie)
- a critical darling say Rotten Tomatoes 90% with a rating of a 8.0 out 10.
- a movie seemingly loved by people who are polled right after seeing it. (I don't want to say a general audience darling as most of the audience scores are based off of unscientific polls)
How would these groups/people react? - MCU Fans
- Fanatics against DCEU
MCU fanatics against DCEU would try to take credit for it by saying that it took a Marvel guy to make a good DCEU movie. They did it with Justice League by saying that the only good parts of the movie were when it was more humorous or lighter "like a Marvel movie".
Do you think there would be some backlash from inside the DCEU fan base? I could see MCU fanatics against the DCEU using it as ammo in the continuing war. They would troll the DCEU fanatics and fans. It would steal the MCU Fanatic's thunder if the DCEU fanatics came out and denounced Gunn from the very beginning I suppose. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 11, 2018 5:38:51 GMT
DCU fans who have been bashing Gunn and his work when he has been with the MCU won't be able to celebrate the success of anything he does with the DCU without looking like complete hypocrites.  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 11, 2018 9:53:36 GMT
DCU fans who have been bashing Gunn and his work when he has been with the MCU won't be able to celebrate the success of anything he does with the DCU without looking like complete hypocrites. Wrong!
James Gunn is and will always be the epitome of a hack and a creep IMO. BUT:
1. Even James "I have famously huge turds" Gunn may in theory "pull an Affleck" one day and create something resembling a masterwork (broken clocks...). It would be hypocritical not to acknowledge this if it ever happened - unlikely with SS but it might happen with more serious films if ever.
2. James "I like it when little boys touch me in my silly place" Gunn being a super-creep privately does not per se affect the evaluation of his artistic output: B Singer and R Polansky are of Gunn's ilk BUT they created bona fide timeless masterworks. Even Gunn's "Super" is a semi-good and original autheur genre film that cannot be dismissed.
As long as these works are not impaired by the writer/director's depraved character (misogyny, pedophilic tendencies, rape fetish etc) these must be judged independently as seperat entities produced by many minds.
Thus, your argument is as fallacious as it is superficial. But you knew that already, right.
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 11, 2018 12:19:11 GMT
DCU fans who have been bashing Gunn and his work when he has been with the MCU won't be able to celebrate the success of anything he does with the DCU without looking like complete hypocrites. Wrong!
James Gunn is and will always be the epitome of a hack and a creep IMO. BUT:
1. Even James "I have famously huge turds" Gunn may in theory "pull an Affleck" one day and create something resembling a masterwork (broken clocks...). It would be hypocritical not to acknowledge this if it ever happened - unlikely with SS but it might happen with more serious films if ever.
2. James "I like it when little boys touch me in my silly place" Gunn being a super-creep privately does not per se affect the evaluation of his artistic output: B Singer and R Polansky are of Gunn's ilk BUT they created bona fide timeless masterworks. Even Gunn's "Super" is a semi-good and original autheur genre film that cannot be dismissed.
As long as these works are not impaired by the writer/director's depraved character (misogyny, pedophilic tendencies, rape fetish etc) these must be judged independently as seperat entities produced by many minds.
Thus, your argument is as fallacious as it is superficial. But you knew that already, right.
"Mr Gunn is to writing-directing what Mr Trump is to leading the free world."
It sounds as though you are really looking forward to Suicide Squad 2 with a degree of optimism?  
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Post by politicidal on Oct 11, 2018 12:55:28 GMT
The expected reaction from any of these people will be multiplied tenfold.
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Post by ryboto on Oct 11, 2018 13:12:08 GMT
Man, is Tristan still butthurt. I know we have similar opinions on Star Wars, and I respect that, but just get over it.
This might actually redeem the 'franchise' known as Suicide Squad. That first one was so terrible though. They set the bar pretty low, so let's hope they can at least achieve a "watchable" rating.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 11, 2018 13:31:50 GMT
One side will celebrate it and the other side will bitch about it.
So basically nothing will change.
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Post by skribb on Oct 11, 2018 13:41:13 GMT
I am being completely serious here. I want to know your opinion on each of the following. There is no absolutely wrong or right answer. I am just curious how you think people will react. If you are going to use this to Troll another fandom please don't. What would be the reaction if James Gunn's Suicide Squad 2 is: - a big hit financially say $860m world wide. (that would make it the highest grossing DCEU movie)
- a critical darling say Rotten Tomatoes 90% with a rating of a 8.0 out 10.
- a movie seemingly loved by people who are polled right after seeing it. (I don't want to say a general audience darling as most of the audience scores are based off of unscientific polls)
"it's official - the world approves of child rape" Left Wing media: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" General Audience: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" General Comicbook fans: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" DCEU fans*: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" MCU Fans*: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" Fanatics against DCEU: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" Fanatics against MCU: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" Teacher/Child Advocates: "it's official - the world approves of child rape" |
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 11, 2018 17:53:51 GMT
Well, I just heard my first excuse/reasoning. A acquaintance I know who shops/hangs out at the Comic Book Shop and Retro Gaming Shop said it. I would consider him a DCEU fan, not Fanatic. He generally likes most Superhero Movies, he just prefers DC. He wasn't very vocal when the Gunn Story broke. I did hear him say Disney should fire him. I don't have complete memory recall, so I am paraphrasing here. It's probably not word for word, but it's close.
The other guys just hanging out all started chiming in at once. I really didn't want to be sucked into a 3 hour conversation/argument, so I just booked it out of there with my copies of RC Pro Am, Techmo Superbowl, and Altered Beast.
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