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Post by NormanClature on Oct 11, 2018 21:31:01 GMT
I don't know what's happening to the DCU lately - first they hire a "pedo" and now we learn they have hired a racist.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 11, 2018 23:09:01 GMT
Twitter thinks Ruby Rose isn't gay enough or the wrong type of gay to play Bat Woman. Now Dewayne Johnson isn't black enough or the right type of black to play John Henry.
Honestly sometimes I feel that a select few created and use twitter to keep us all distracted. That it is intentionally used to separate people. Then I realize nobody has to do that. Humans are horrible enough on our own to attack and separate each other. There is no need for a conspiracy, we are a fucking garbage species.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 11, 2018 23:25:43 GMT
The best actor to have played John Henry is long dead now. And that was Michael Clarke Duncan. Johnson is fine.
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 12, 2018 5:48:04 GMT
The best actor to have played John Henry is long dead now. And that was Michael Clarke Duncan. Johnson is fine. The Rock isn't black though.
To make it authentic, he will have to go full black-face.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 12, 2018 8:40:19 GMT
they have hired a racist. How is Dwayne Johnson a racist?
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 12, 2018 8:41:04 GMT
The best actor to have played John Henry is long dead now. And that was Michael Clarke Duncan. Johnson is fine. The Rock isn't black though. What the fuck ae you talking about? Dwayne Johnson IS black. His dad is Rocky Johnson.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 12, 2018 10:09:59 GMT
The best actor to have played John Henry is long dead now. And that was Michael Clarke Duncan. Johnson is fine. The Rock isn't black though.
To make it authentic, he will have to go full black-face.
I can't believe I am writing this. It's fucking surreal, but here we are. Johnson is half Black and half Samoan. For decades and decades the rule Caucasians adhered to (a lot of the times and places it was actually legally binding)If one of your parents is black then you are considered black. From slavery through Jim Crowe Laws to Segregation to equal rights movement culminating in 1965. This rule was enforced. Today many people still feel this way. They aren't as open about it any more. They didn't call you black if you were of mixed decent. you were Mulatto, Colored, or Mixed race. You still counted as a black man or woman no matter what you were called. And let me tell the laws from Slavery to just past Segragation/Jim Crowe were horrible toward Blacks. After Jim Crowe and Equal Rights movement authority still held on to their bigotry. It just went from speaking your bigoted thoughts out loud in a crowd to whispers and nods. For the longest time if one of your parents were Black and the other parent White the child got the worst of two worlds. You got all the negative treatment for being a black person and none of the benefits of being white. (this didn't apply to Johnson as he was black and samoan.) He is mixed decent of 2 brown people. In my opinion being a combination of 2 different brown races in this world could get real horrible real quick. We finally get to a place where the public doesn't see people like Johnson as a black man or brown man or a mulatto. Society sees him as just Dewayne Johnson - wrestler, actor, singer, parent and reportedly humble, easy to get a long with, funny man. Dewayne had to deal with a lot of hatred, bigotry, and ignorant people as he grew up in the 70's and 80's. He had experienced racism not to just himself but a lot aimed at his father. (Rocky Johnson, along with Tony Atlas were the first Black Tag Team to win the WWF Tag Team Championship Belts.) Dewayne witnessed how cruel and bigoted people can be when he would tour with his Dad in the south and mid-west. Rocky Johnson would wrestle in the independent, small, and regionally big wrestling matches/leagues. We like to think things got way better for minorities in the 70's but in the south and in urban areas racism was still running wild (still is). Johnson bounced around from N. England to Hawaii and a few places in between. He never lived in the south that I can see except for his stay at U. of Miami. After college he made it on the practice squad for the CFL Stampedes. That didn't work out to well for him, so he told his Dad he wanted to be a wrestler. Even in 1996 when he was touring around the south small wrestling events he was still the victim of Bigotry. Before college he moved to Hawaii for a while and stayed with his mom's family. Polynesians/Samoans are very judgmental of outsiders. This doesn't mix well with interracial couples and children. Native Hawaiians call all non-native Hawaiians Hoale, but there is a group that are native to the islands they call that. You guessed it. Native Black people who are descendants of slaves/servants/croppers who worked the Plantations are still looked down upon in Modern Hawaill. They are still considered outsiders to this day. The slaves were brought there by businessmen who left the south before the Civil War. They relocated with their slaves/servants to tap into the sugar cane market. Booker T. Washington toured Hawaii around the turn of the century. He had toured the Reconstruction South after the Civil War. He was used to seeing god awful conditions. When Booker T. Washington saw the state of what the poor (black and Polynesian) lived in. He said that this is worse squalor than in the South. It seems poor black 1st and 2nd generation freedman were the low ones on the totem pole in that society. White people aren't the only ones who can be dicks to People of Colour seems People of Color can be dicks to People of Color too. So now with all he had to deal with growing up, he now has to face this shit? He was a true outsider who was the victim of bigotry from both races he came from. He didn't let their hatred define him. He worked his ass off and got a full ride for football at University of Miami. He got injured in practice which pretty much ended his football career (he did go CFL for a bit) He still graduated though with a degree in CJ. He rose through the ranks in wrestling. Then he did something lots of people try but few make it. He transitioned over to main stream actor from wrestling. He is now one of the most famous actors in the world. He went through all of that and people still have the balls to say your aren't the right type of Black to play this role. I'd like them to say it too his face instead of hiding behind twitter and the internet. God this pisses me off. What a bunch of mongoloid cretins.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Oct 12, 2018 11:39:38 GMT
I don't know what's happening to the DCU lately - first they hire a "pedo" and now we learn they have hired a racist. Johnson is not a racist, he is in fact very proud of his black father being a racial pioneer in pro wrestling. People's complaints have more to do with Johnson being successful based on his racial ambiguity where he himself have kept his 'blackness' at arm's length all the time. The movie is also apparently removing the important racial element of John Henry's story in favor of international appeal.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Oct 12, 2018 11:40:51 GMT
Also hiring James Gunn is probably going to be seen as WB showing twitter Nazis the middle finger where Disney caved in to them.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 12, 2018 12:05:08 GMT
The Rock isn't black though.
To make it authentic, he will have to go full black-face.
I can't believe I am writing this. It's fucking surreal, but here we are. Johnson is half Black and half Samoan. For decades and decades the rule Caucasians adhered to (a lot of the times and places it was actually legally binding)If one of your parents is black then you are considered black. From slavery through Jim Crowe Laws to Segregation to equal rights movement culminating in 1965. This rule was enforced. Today many people still feel this way. They aren't as open about it any more. They didn't call you black if you were of mixed decent. you were Mulatto, Colored, or Mixed race. You still counted as a black man or woman no matter what you were called. And let me tell the laws from Slavery to just past Segragation/Jim Crowe were horrible toward Blacks. After Jim Crowe and Equal Rights movement authority still held on to their bigotry. It just went from speaking your bigoted thoughts out loud in a crowd to whispers and nods. For the longest time if one of your parents were Black and the other parent White the child got the worst of two worlds. You got all the negative treatment for being a black person and none of the benefits of being white. (this didn't apply to Johnson as he was black and samoan.) He is mixed decent of 2 brown people. In my opinion being a combination of 2 different brown races in this world could get real horrible real quick. We finally get to a place where the public doesn't see people like Johnson as a black man or brown man or a mulatto. Society sees him as just Dewayne Johnson - wrestler, actor, singer, parent and reportedly humble, easy to get a long with, funny man. Dewayne had to deal with a lot of hatred, bigotry, and ignorant people as he grew up in the 70's and 80's. He had experienced racism not to just himself but a lot aimed at his father. (Rocky Johnson, along with Tony Atlas were the first Black Tag Team to win the WWF Tag Team Championship Belts.) Dewayne witnessed how cruel and bigoted people can be when he would tour with his Dad in the south and mid-west. Rocky Johnson would wrestle in the independent, small, and regionally big wrestling matches/leagues. We like to think things got way better for minorities in the 70's but in the south and in urban areas racism was still running wild (still is). Johnson bounced around from N. England to Hawaii and a few places in between. He never lived in the south that I can see except for his stay at U. of Miami. After college he made it on the practice squad for the CFL Stampedes. That didn't work out to well for him, so he told his Dad he wanted to be a wrestler. Even in 1996 when he was touring around the south small wrestling events he was still the victim of Bigotry. Before college he moved to Hawaii for a while and stayed with his mom's family. Polynesians/Samoans are very judgmental of outsiders. This doesn't mix well with interracial couples and children. Native Hawaiians call all non-native Hawaiians Hoale, but there is a group that are native to the islands they call that. You guessed it. Native Black people who are descendants of slaves/servants/croppers who worked the Plantations are still looked down upon in Modern Hawaill. They are still considered outsiders to this day. The slaves were brought there by businessmen who left the south before the Civil War. They relocated with their slaves/servants to tap into the sugar cane market. Booker T. Washington toured Hawaii around the turn of the century. He had toured the Reconstruction South after the Civil War. He was used to seeing god awful conditions. When Booker T. Washington saw the state of what the poor (black and Polynesian) lived in. He said that this is worse squalor than in the South. It seems poor black 1st and 2nd generation freedman were the low ones on the totem pole in that society. White people aren't the only ones who can be dicks to People of Colour seems People of Color can be dicks to People of Color too. So now with all he had to deal with growing up, he now has to face this shit? He was a true outsider who was the victim of bigotry from both races he came from. He didn't let their hatred define him. He worked his ass off and got a full ride for football at University of Miami. He got injured in practice which pretty much ended his football career (he did go CFL for a bit) He still graduated though with a degree in CJ. He rose through the ranks in wrestling. Then he did something lots of people try but few make it. He transitioned over to main stream actor from wrestling. He is now one of the most famous actors in the world. He went through all of that and people still have the balls to say your aren't the right type of Black to play this role. I'd like them to say it too his face instead of hiding behind twitter and the internet. God this pisses me off. What a bunch of mongoloid cretins. Well said! Ironically these people are the real racist. Just like the ones who attacked Ruby are the real homophobes.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 12, 2018 13:38:20 GMT
Also hiring James Gunn is probably going to be seen as WB showing twitter Nazis the middle finger where Disney caved in to them. Nonsense. Nobody with basic wits sees it that way.
There is nothing nobel or democratic in WB's or James "Cum-stained boys make me EXTREMELY HAPPY" Gunn's decision.
It's an opportunistic and play-it-safe business decision for both WB and James"I have famously huge turds"Gunn.
Don't play the hero card, don't you dare.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 12, 2018 15:25:58 GMT
@normanclature this is kind of a dick thread, what gives?
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Post by politicidal on Oct 12, 2018 15:28:19 GMT
Also hiring James Gunn is probably going to be seen as WB showing twitter Nazis the middle finger where Disney caved in to them. Nonsense. Nobody with basic wits sees it that way.
There is nothing nobel or democratic in WB's or James "Cum-stained boys make me EXTREMELY HAPPY" Gunn's decision.
It's an opportunistic and play-it-safe business decision for both WB and James"I have famously huge turds"Gunn.
Don't play the hero card, don't you dare.
Why not “play the hero”? (We in a soap opera now?) It was old news that he got fired for.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 12, 2018 16:10:10 GMT
Also hiring James Gunn is probably going to be seen as WB showing twitter Nazis the middle finger where Disney caved in to them. Nonsense. Nobody with basic wits sees it that way.
There is nothing nobel or democratic in WB's or James "Cum-stained boys make me EXTREMELY HAPPY" Gunn's decision.
It's an opportunistic and play-it-safe business decision for both WB and James"I have famously huge turds"Gunn.
Don't play the hero card, don't you dare.
I am starting to see more and more comments, tweets, op-ed, etc leaning that way. Of course that's no where near reliable. It might be blue car syndrome. You start to see certain types of comments so you start looking for them more. Just like when you buy a blue car you always seem to notice blue cars everywhere. "Disney is too much of a pussy to protect their own." "Disney deserves this to happen to them. And James Gunn deserves to keep working. I call this a WIN WIN" "Cernovich punked your ass Disney" " Disney and Marvel can find a way to reinstate Gunn, if only to send a clear message to Cernovich and the rest of the trolls – because this is bullying, plain and simple, and Marvel in particular has this one guy whose entire deal is about standing up to bullies." "I'm glad to see WB/DC standing up against Nazi's'
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 12, 2018 16:47:54 GMT
Nonsense. Nobody with basic wits sees it that way.
There is nothing nobel or democratic in WB's or James "Cum-stained boys make me EXTREMELY HAPPY" Gunn's decision.
It's an opportunistic and play-it-safe business decision for both WB and James"I have famously huge turds"Gunn.
Don't play the hero card, don't you dare.
I am starting to see more and more comments, tweets, op-ed, etc leaning that way. Of course that's no where near reliable. It might be blue car syndrome. You start to see certain types of comments so you start looking for them more. Just like when you buy a blue car you always seem to notice blue cars everywhere. "Disney is too much of a pussy to protect their own." "Disney deserves this to happen to them. And James Gunn deserves to keep working. I call this a WIN WIN" "Cernovich punked your ass Disney" " Disney and Marvel can find a way to reinstate Gunn, if only to send a clear message to Cernovich and the rest of the trolls – because this is bullying, plain and simple, and Marvel in particular has this one guy whose entire deal is about standing up to bullies." "I'm glad to see WB/DC standing up against Nazi's' thus my "with basic wits" qualifier. Butthurt fanboys engaging in fallacious whining and deflections will always exist; the more depraved a guru the more faithful his worshippers. It's a sign of their weakness. Smearing the messenger only makes sense if the evidence produced by him is not credible. The evidence here - ie countless racist, rapist and pedophilic comments, videos and photos - was never even contested to begin with. Whoever defends a man like James " I'd break my daughter in anally before she's married" is of his ilk, or mindblowingly stupid or both. Regardless of whether he is in MCU, DC or any other camp.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 12, 2018 17:18:15 GMT
Nonsense. Nobody with basic wits sees it that way.
There is nothing nobel or democratic in WB's or James "Cum-stained boys make me EXTREMELY HAPPY" Gunn's decision.
It's an opportunistic and play-it-safe business decision for both WB and James"I have famously huge turds"Gunn.
Don't play the hero card, don't you dare.
Why not “play the hero”? (We in a soap opera now?) It was old news that he got fired for. sure if you think that pedophilic tweets during his tenure at Disney are "old news" (are we in tabloid media now?) But I subscribe to the idea that misdeeds do not become irrelevant only because they are not discovered sooner. You should too, it's how common sense and the state of law works. And I said "play the hero card". Nuance and reading comprehension is key when dealing with tweets like " Eagle snatches kid is what i call it when I get lucky".
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 12, 2018 17:23:37 GMT
I don't know what's happening to the DCU lately - first they hire a "pedo" and now we learn they have hired a racist. Lately?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 12, 2018 19:40:00 GMT
Why not “play the hero”? (We in a soap opera now?) It was old news that he got fired for. sure if you think that pedophilic tweets during his tenure at Disney are "old news" (are we in tabloid media now?) But I subscribe to the idea that misdeeds do not become irrelevant only because they are not discovered sooner. You should too, it's how common sense and the state of law works. And I said "play the hero card". Nuance and reading comprehension is key when dealing with tweets like " Eagle snatches kid is what i call it when I get lucky". The tweets were actually from before his time at Marvel and Disney.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 12, 2018 19:44:22 GMT
@normanclature this is kind of a dick thread, what gives? He is a dick.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 12, 2018 19:45:09 GMT
sure if you think that pedophilic tweets during his tenure at Disney are "old news" (are we in tabloid media now?) But I subscribe to the idea that misdeeds do not become irrelevant only because they are not discovered sooner. You should too, it's how common sense and the state of law works. And I said "play the hero card". Nuance and reading comprehension is key when dealing with tweets like " Eagle snatches kid is what i call it when I get lucky". The tweets were actually from before his time at Marvel and Disney. This has been proven false, some were after his hiring.
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