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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 23:25:15 GMT
I still haven't heard a decent answer to this question.
I can only assume it's so that they can retroactively set up the Skrulls as invaders of Earth. Which, honestly, is lazy storytelling. Especially since no one has mentioned them in the previous twenty movies.
Is there any more to it than that? I hope so...
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Post by politicidal on Oct 12, 2018 23:29:00 GMT
That and to explain away why she wasn't available for any of the shit that happened. That's really it.
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Post by James on Oct 12, 2018 23:56:40 GMT
She might have been an associate with Fury during that time, since he called her for help at the end of IW, which indicates their connection.
Nonetheless, I was joyous when I saw that Blockbuster store in the trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 4:42:40 GMT
Hmm. It just seems so forced and misguided to me, If they wanted her in the next Avengers they should've just done a movie with her off world in present time. Or just wait until phase four and introduce her then.
And it will be beyond stupid if the Skrulls suddenly pop up in present time after twenty movies because the plot requires them too.
We'll see, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 4:43:34 GMT
She might have been an associate with Fury during that time, since he called her for help at the end of IW, which indicates their connection. Nonetheless, I was joyous when I saw that Blockbuster store in the trailer. I was always more of a Hollywood Video guy. |
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Post by darkpast on Oct 13, 2018 5:22:21 GMT
Women were not WOKE until 2018
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2018 5:35:40 GMT
The origin of MCU Captain Marvel is a vexing mystery.
Everyone assumes Phase 4 is setting up Secret Invasion. It's is the most famous storyline involving Skrulls (and it's probably the only one most people know). S.H.I.E.L.D. has already been compromised by infiltrators from within. Why double down on the same storyline with aliens? I don't think they're going to adapt Secret Invasion. I think they're going to use elements from the Kree Skrull war storyline in which both powers seek to invade Earth because of its strategic location. Neither power wants to invade Earth on a mission of conquest. Earth has nothing to offer the more technologically advanced Kree and Skrulls.
I think they may be riffing off of the idea that, at one point, Captain Marvel was two people. Mar-Vell and Rick Jones swapped places with each other in the comics. Each one taking turns residing in the negative zone while the other was active here. Carol may be sharing her existence with an actual Kree warrior. I believe that's why she hasn't returned to Earth. She believes herself to be fully Kree and thus not native to our planet. Fury signaling her could be him calling in a marker.
The 90s settings are likely in part due to the complications of how two of the biggest intergalactic powers in the quadrant were at war with each other and nobody ever knew it.
For a while, I thought the relativistic nature of FTL travel might play a part in the big time jump between her disappearance and remergance but, in the trailer, you clearer see warp capable Kree vessels. The vast distances between Earth, Skrullos and Hala could be overcome in hours instead of decades.
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Post by Archelaus on Oct 13, 2018 5:38:47 GMT
The main reason is to explain her disappearance from all that's happened since she's in Avengers 4 and perhaps, give Nick Fury a proper backstory being directionless following the end of the Cold War and realizing there's a bigger universe out there.
You're right that it's odd nobody has mentioned the Skrull invasion, but we'll have to wait and see how it turns out. After all, HYDRA managed to keep the Starks' assassination caught on videotape from being leaked for more than two decades.
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Post by James on Oct 13, 2018 11:06:22 GMT
She might have been an associate with Fury during that time, since he called her for help at the end of IW, which indicates their connection. Nonetheless, I was joyous when I saw that Blockbuster store in the trailer. I was always more of a Hollywood Video guy. Man, I wish I could’ve gone there. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 13, 2018 11:07:46 GMT
Women were not WOKE until 2018 Yeah, this movie wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for #metoo and the financial success of Wonder Woman. 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:31:36 GMT
The origin of MCU Captain Marvel is a vexing mystery. Everyone assumes Phase 4 is setting up Secret Invasion. It's is the most famous storyline involving Skrulls (and it's probably the only one most people know). S.H.I.E.L.D. has already been compromised by infiltrators from within. Why double down on the same storyline with aliens? I don't think they're going to adapt Secret Invasion. I think they're going to use elements from the Kree Skrull war storyline in which both powers seek to invade Earth because of its strategic location. Neither power wants to invade Earth on a mission of conquest. Earth has nothing to offer the more technologically advanced Kree and Skrulls. I think they may be riffing off of the idea that, at one point, Captain Marvel was two people. Mar-Vell and Rick Jones swapped places with each other in the comics. Each one taking turns residing in the negative zone while the other was active here. Carol may be sharing her existence with an actual Kree warrior. I believe that's why she hasn't returned to Earth. She believes herself to be fully Kree and thus not native to our planet. Fury signaling her could be him calling in a marker. The 90s settings are likely in part due to the complications of how two of the biggest intergalactic powers in the quadrant were at war with each other and nobody ever knew it. For a while, I thought the relativistic nature of FTL travel might play a part in the big time jump between her disappearance and remergance but, in the trailer, you clearer see warp capable Kree vessels. The vast distances between Earth, Skrullos and Hala could be overcome in hours instead of decades. I admit I don't know much about the character, so perhaps I shouldn't be too quick to judge. I hope it all ends up well, but even with these ideas I think it just feels like they're cramming in mythology that should've been revealed already. The galactic mythos of the MCU has been so paper thin so far. GotG 1-2 worked splendidly without any elaborate backstory or greater context - it's just a fun goofy space action comedy... Which is all fine, but now they're looking to rest the entire narrative structure on the off world stuff, and there's nothing there of substance besides Thanos. An MCU prequel just seems too convenient a way of delivering exposition before Avengers 4 pays it all off. I'm always quick to judge though. I should probably just shut up and see the actual movie before I complain... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:37:34 GMT
The main reason is to explain her disappearance from all that's happened since she's in Avengers 4 and perhaps, give Nick Fury a proper backstory being directionless following the end of the Cold War and realizing there's a bigger universe out there. You're right that it's odd nobody has mentioned the Skrull invasion, but we'll have to wait and see how it turns out. After all, HYDRA managed to keep the Starks' assassination caught on videotape from being leaked for more than two decades. But Fury is no longer relevant to the MCU. They've basically written him out. And Coulson has been dead since Avengers 1.... So honestly, who even cares about their backstory now? And the plot thread of Tony's parents was set up all the way back in Iron Man 1. Not that they were always planning to pay it off, but it was there all along. It wasn't just forced in. That's part of the reason Civil War is so brilliant: it takes so much of what was already there and pays it all off in surprising ways. Captain Marvel seems to be the opposite of that- introducing tons of exposition via backstory and then paying it off immediately. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 19:12:04 GMT
Why not is the only answer I can think of. If it makes for good entertainment...
If it's a continuity issue then I'm fine waiting for the movie to figure that out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 19:22:54 GMT
Why not is the only answer I can think of. If it makes for good entertainment...
If it's a continuity issue then I'm fine waiting for the movie to figure that out.
I'll tell you what: if Seinfeld, Super Nintendo, Grunge music and Ken Griffey Jr are referenced (read: my favorite things from the 90s) I will forgive the unnecessary setting. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 13, 2018 19:23:57 GMT
Why not is the only answer I can think of. If it makes for good entertainment...
If it's a continuity issue then I'm fine waiting for the movie to figure that out.
I'll tell you what: if Seinfeld, Super Nintendo, Grunge music and Ken Griffey Jr are referenced (read: my favorite things from the 90s) I will forgive the unnecessary setting. SHAZAM! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 19:24:49 GMT
Why not is the only answer I can think of. If it makes for good entertainment...
If it's a continuity issue then I'm fine waiting for the movie to figure that out.
I'll tell you what: if Seinfeld, Super Nintendo, Grunge music and Ken Griffey Jr are referenced (read: my favorite things from the 90s) I will forgive the unnecessary setting. Hells yes. |
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Post by Archelaus on Oct 13, 2018 19:33:25 GMT
The main reason is to explain her disappearance from all that's happened since she's in Avengers 4 and perhaps, give Nick Fury a proper backstory being directionless following the end of the Cold War and realizing there's a bigger universe out there. You're right that it's odd nobody has mentioned the Skrull invasion, but we'll have to wait and see how it turns out. After all, HYDRA managed to keep the Starks' assassination caught on videotape from being leaked for more than two decades. But Fury is no longer relevant to the MCU. They've basically written him out. And Coulson has been dead since Avengers 1.... So honestly, who even cares about their backstory now? And the plot thread of Tony's parents was set up all the way back in Iron Man 1. Not that they were always planning to pay it off, but it was there all along. It wasn't just forced in. That's part of the reason Civil War is so brilliant: it takes so much of what was already there and pays it all off in surprising ways. Captain Marvel seems to be the opposite of that- introducing tons of exposition via backstory and then paying it off immediately. Fury isn't irrelevant to the MCU just yet since he's in Spider-Man: Far From Home. What he'll do in the movie, I don't know. If Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is still considered canon, Coulson is not dead either. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 5:43:26 GMT
I still haven't heard a decent answer to this question. I can only assume it's so that they can retroactively set up the Skrulls as invaders of Earth. Which, honestly, is lazy storytelling. Especially since no one has mentioned them in the previous twenty movies. Is there any more to it than that? I hope so... We won't know until it's out. We can only speculate as to their reasons. Give Marvel the benefit of the doubt. |
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