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Post by politicidal on Oct 12, 2018 23:33:34 GMT
Needless to say he is very upset. On the one hand, there's another article where he says he will support remakes of his films if they paid him.
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According to Johnson's producing partner Hiram Garcia, the new Big Trouble won't be a remake of the original but will instead continue the story.
And what does Carpenter himself think of Johnson's plans to carry on the tale he started in 1986? As should be no surprise to anyone who follows Carpenter, he is not a particular fan of the idea. In fact, Carpenter offered very harsh words about the movie when asked about it during a series of Halloween (2018) roundtable interviews held last month. Carpenter told CinemaBlend:
They want a movie with Dwayne Johnson. That's what they want. So they just picked that title. They don't give a s--t about me and my movie. That movie wasn't a success.
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Post by ck100 on Oct 13, 2018 1:46:12 GMT
The people behind the remake care more about the name of the film than the content since the name is what brings people to theaters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 1:49:25 GMT
The people behind the remake care more about the name of the film than the content since the name is what brings people to theaters. Can apply that statement to films like Fallen Kingdom. They start with what dinosaur action scenes they want, and then flesh out the story from that. So what we have is a very poor plot that's loosely strung together with action scenes (which, incidentally, have already been done a million times before). Keep buying tickets, morons.
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Post by ck100 on Oct 13, 2018 2:03:36 GMT
The people behind the remake care more about the name of the film than the content since the name is what brings people to theaters. Can apply that statement to films like Fallen Kingdom. They start with what dinosaur action scenes they want, and then flesh out the story from that. So what we have is a very poor plot that's loosely strung together with action scenes (which, incidentally, have already been done a million times before). Keep buying tickets, morons. The problem with Jurassic Park is that it's a limited franchise. You can only go so far with the story of dinosaurs getting loose in a park, dinos running amok, eating people, chasing people, etc. When you have to borrow from previous films (which I hear Fallen Kingdom does with The Lost World), then you're in trouble. Plus, I've said how many franchise films today feel more like product by a profiteer than a film by a filmmaker. You're right about cherry-picking scenes and then building a film off of that.
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Post by petrolino on Oct 13, 2018 2:10:04 GMT
At this point, in my opinion, John Carpenter is America's greatest living horror director (with due respect to Larry Cohen & Stuart Gordon). I always enjoy hearing his thoughts. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 13, 2018 2:21:22 GMT
Regardless of whether the new film is a remake or a sequel, it will never hold a candle to the original movie, nor inspire a better quote thread.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 13, 2018 2:34:43 GMT
Big Trouble was ahead of it's time. A few years later the Honk Kong craze hit America and movie fans had to satisfy their Asian cravings mainly thru videos (remember those?). At least until Jackie Chan movies were finally released and marketed to theaters. Rumble in the Bronx isn't great Jackie but it was the first of his movies I saw in a theater and the first Honk Kong movie I saw in a theater as well. Although I had seen a lot of HK movies on video (remember those?) by then.
My point being Big Trouble was ahead of it's time.
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 13, 2018 2:44:34 GMT
Let's get real. The original is a complete mess of a movie. It's a bunch of cool ideas that didn't come together in any cohesive way, yet has a cult following. I would like to see a better movie get made using the same concepts.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 13, 2018 3:14:23 GMT
Let's get real. The original is a complete mess of a movie. It's a bunch of cool ideas that didn't come together in any cohesive way, yet has a cult following. I would like to see a better movie get made using the same concepts. Cool. Then they shouldn't use the title.
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 13, 2018 3:18:49 GMT
Let's get real. The original is a complete mess of a movie. It's a bunch of cool ideas that didn't come together in any cohesive way, yet has a cult following. I would like to see a better movie get made using the same concepts. Cool. Then they shouldn't use the title. But it's a sequel so they should.
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Post by jimanchower on Oct 13, 2018 4:03:38 GMT
Big Trouble was ahead of it's time. A few years later the Honk Kong craze hit America and movie fans had to satisfy their Asian cravings mainly thru videos (remember those?). At least until Jackie Chan movies were finally released and marketed to theaters. Rumble in the Bronx isn't great Jackie but it was the first of his movies I saw in a theater and the first Honk Kong movie I saw in a theater as well. Although I had seen a lot of HK movies on video (remember those?) by then. My point being Big Trouble was ahead of it's time. "Asian cravings"? Gross. But there were always kung fu movies shown on TV. They showed them late at night and every Sunday in Indianapolis when I was growing up.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 13, 2018 4:11:38 GMT
Big Trouble was ahead of it's time. A few years later the Honk Kong craze hit America and movie fans had to satisfy their Asian cravings mainly thru videos (remember those?). At least until Jackie Chan movies were finally released and marketed to theaters. Rumble in the Bronx isn't great Jackie but it was the first of his movies I saw in a theater and the first Honk Kong movie I saw in a theater as well. Although I had seen a lot of HK movies on video (remember those?) by then. My point being Big Trouble was ahead of it's time. "Asian cravings"? Gross. But there were always kung fu movies shown on TV. They showed them late at night and every Sunday in Indianapolis when I was growing up. Shaw Bothers are awesome but not in the same class as the movies that were made during the HK craze. What's gross about craving some Asian? Food, movies or women?
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Post by poelzig on Oct 13, 2018 4:44:38 GMT
Cool. Then they shouldn't use the title. But it's a sequel so they should. You obviously hate the original but they shoehorn The Rock in and suddenly you want to see it? Most likely it will be generic PG crap with DeWayne doing his usual cut and paste punching and leaping about while cracking some jokes. Millennials don't give a shit about the title since the original was made before most of them were born and their tiny little minds can't grasp anything created before them being good. I wouldn't be surprised if the only tie to the original is DeWayne will eat lunch in Little China in between punching and leaping about and of course he will ask "Can you smell what the chef is cooking?"
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 13, 2018 14:32:03 GMT
But it's a sequel so they should. You obviously hate the original but they shoehorn The Rock in and suddenly you want to see it? Most likely it will be generic PG crap with DeWayne doing his usual cut and paste punching and leaping about while cracking some jokes. Millennials don't give a shit about the title since the original was made before most of them were born and their tiny little minds can't grasp anything created before them being good. I wouldn't be surprised if the only tie to the original is DeWayne will eat lunch in Little China in between punching and leaping about and of course he will ask "Can you smell what the chef is cooking?" It has nothing to do with the Rock being in it. I just want martial arts action mixed with the supernatural put together correctly this time. You're right in being skeptical given the sad state of current Hollywood, but a guy can dream.
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Post by mrellaguru on Oct 13, 2018 16:30:20 GMT
I thought that John Carpenter died. I must have been thinking of Wes Craven.
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 13, 2018 17:23:03 GMT
I thought that John Carpenter died. I must have been thinking of Wes Craven. His talent died long ago. I realized that while watching Escape from L.A.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 14, 2018 0:14:08 GMT
I thought that John Carpenter died. I must have been thinking of Wes Craven. His talent died long ago. I realized that while watching Escape from L.A. Ouch. I wish I could argue the point with you but..... Damn that movie sucked. What was the last good Carpenter movie? Since he's said in his mind his movies are always remakes of Rio Bravo, maybe he should make a Western with Kurt Russel in the John Wayne role.
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Post by petrolino on Oct 14, 2018 0:21:44 GMT
I thought that John Carpenter died. I must have been thinking of Wes Craven. His talent died long ago. I realized that while watching Escape from L.A. I like 'Vampires' and 'Ghosts Of Mars' which were made post-L.A., seen them both many times. Didn't much care for 'The Ward' though his entry in the 'Masters Of Horror' series, 'Cigarette Burns', was probably my number 1, pound for pound. So, I'c contend the talent's still there. Ill health has contributed to his decision to spend more time making music in the studio. As Carpenter says, it's tough shooting day and night, location to location, when you're at the age to draw your pension.
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 14, 2018 3:13:19 GMT
His talent died long ago. I realized that while watching Escape from L.A. Ouch. I wish I could argue the point with you but..... Damn that movie sucked. What was the last good Carpenter movie? "They Live" is his last good movie to me.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 15, 2018 19:33:20 GMT
His talent died long ago. I realized that while watching Escape from L.A. I like 'Vampires' and 'Ghosts Of Mars' which were made post-L.A., seen them both many times. Didn't much care for 'The Ward' though his entry in the 'Masters Of Horror' series, 'Cigarette Burns', was probably my number 1, pound for pound. So, I'c contend the talent's still there. Ill health has contributed to his decision to spend more time making music in the studio. As Carpenter says, it's tough shooting day and night, location to location, when you're at the age to draw your pension. I forgot he did Cigarette Burns. That was one of the best of the MOH series. Like you said probably the best of the bunch.
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