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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 16, 2018 9:46:01 GMT
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 16, 2018 10:35:10 GMT
Certainly. Why not?
Especially if they are the father.
If they refused to, I would personally question their manhood.
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Post by Nora on Oct 16, 2018 13:52:20 GMT
i was expecting a debate on transgender or robots/artificial vombs.
I am disapointed that this Pierse inflicted nonsense is even a question.
any man questioning someone elses masculinity (let alone for caring for their baby or how they do so) most likely has issues over their own masculinity.
certainly in my book.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 16, 2018 14:03:06 GMT
All men are real men just as all women are real women.
And yes is the answer to your question.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 16, 2018 14:21:48 GMT
Of course not!
They should only carry babies if they're the babies of their enemies and they've skinned it and are using it as a fetching caul.
Only homo's carry living babies!
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Post by mecano04 on Oct 16, 2018 22:45:39 GMT
i was expecting a debate on transgender or robots/artificial vombs. I am disapointed that this Pierse inflicted nonsense is even a question. any man questioning someone elses masculinity (let alone for caring for their baby or how they do so) most likely has issues over their own masculinity. certainly in my book. But what about?
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Post by Nora on Oct 16, 2018 22:48:30 GMT
i was expecting a debate on transgender or robots/artificial vombs. I am disapointed that this Pierse inflicted nonsense is even a question. any man questioning someone elses masculinity (let alone for caring for their baby or how they do so) most likely has issues over their own masculinity. certainly in my book. But what about? well I was totally ready for THAT debate  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 1, 2018 11:48:07 GMT
i was expecting a debate on transgender or robots/artificial vombs. I am disapointed that this Pierse inflicted nonsense is even a question. any man questioning someone elses masculinity (let alone for caring for their baby or how they do so) most likely has issues over their own masculinity.certainly in my book. 
I can't open the link to read the article, but how does one define what is a 'real' man anyway?
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Post by ellynmacg on Nov 1, 2018 13:00:25 GMT
i was expecting a debate on transgender or robots/artificial vombs. I am disapointed that this Pierse inflicted nonsense is even a question. any man questioning someone elses masculinity (let alone for caring for their baby or how they do so) most likely has issues over their own masculinity.certainly in my book.
I can't open the link to read the article, but how does one define what is a 'real' man anyway?
An answer, of sorts, to your (rhetorical?) question. Now, as to the OP's (deliberately provocative?) question: if a man can't be a "real" man and still carry babies (or diaper them or push them in strollers), then he's not a "real" man I particularly care to associate with. |
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Post by lordquesterjones on Nov 1, 2018 13:06:37 GMT
Absolutely not!
It's an obscenity in the face of our Lord.
If any man is seen carrying a baby a Hue and Cry should be called, and the twelve closest men should be allowed to tear the man and baby to pieces and feast on their still warm flesh.
End of!
And that's in the Bible!!
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Post by PresidentofChad on Nov 1, 2018 17:43:15 GMT
I never carry babies. The men I cuck do that after their wives bear my progeny.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 1, 2018 18:46:15 GMT
Absolutely not!
It's an obscenity in the face of our Lord.
If any man is seen carrying a baby a Hue and Cry should be called, and the twelve closest men should be allowed to tear the man and baby to pieces and feast on their still warm flesh.
End of!
And that's in the Bible!!
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Post by ck100 on Nov 1, 2018 18:49:17 GMT
You've already proven your worth as a man if you can successfully raise and take care of a child.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 1, 2018 18:52:00 GMT
Absolutely not!
It's an obscenity in the face of our Lord.
If any man is seen carrying a baby a Hue and Cry should be called, and the twelve closest men should be allowed to tear the man and baby to pieces and feast on their still warm flesh.
End of!
And that's in the Bible!!
Excellent. Have you seen the six awesome movies of the Lone Wolf and Cub series of movies? They are a must see for Samurai lovers like me.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 1, 2018 18:59:35 GMT
Excellent. Have you seen the six awesome movies of the Lone Wolf and Cub series of movies? They are a must see for Samurai lovers like me.
Yeah, the baby carriage with more weapons than a James Bond car would have been a useful way to get through a crowded London street. |
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 1, 2018 19:02:30 GMT
Excellent. Have you seen the six awesome movies of the Lone Wolf and Cub series of movies? They are a must see for Samurai lovers like me.
Yeah, the baby carriage with more weapons than a James Bond car would have been a useful way to get through a crowded London street. All this makes me faintly remember a poster called Daigoro on politics board. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 2, 2018 1:53:34 GMT
I can't open the link to read the article, but how does one define what is a 'real' man anyway?
An answer, of sorts, to your (rhetorical?) question. Now, as to the OP's (deliberately provocative?) question: if a man can't be a "real" man and still carry babies (or diaper them or push them in strollers), then he's not a "real" man I particularly care to associate with.Gender roles can be forced by expectations of society and what a men is supposed to represent and what a female is supposed to represent. I am not quite sure what Jackson's 'real' stance is on the issue, but it appears within the song that the image of the male suddenly changes to become a parody of what it was once 'supposed' to represent and image of macho is also an ideal therefore a fallacy. Is Jackson straight? If so, that would also give him a different perspective on what maleness is supposed to represent and any bias or prejudice can't be helped.
The question can't be answered as an absolute and that was my point. The genitals only represent the gender\sex—these are the same as far as I'm concerned—of the human, any other attributes that then come associated with the person are variable and capricious in nature.
Men cannot carry babies due to their biology, but a man that takes responsibility for the children he has fathered—which most men appear to do—is not the issue, but with the many women that make poor choices with some of the men they choose to get with. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 2, 2018 1:56:33 GMT
I never carry babies. The men I cuck do that after their wives bear my progeny. And those men should feel highly honored oh righteous one, just to have that association with you through their wives and that their wives will carry on your supreme seed. |
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Post by PresidentofChad on Nov 2, 2018 6:17:21 GMT
I never carry babies. The men I cuck do that after their wives bear my progeny. And those men should feel highly honored oh righteous one, just to have that association with you through their wives and that their wives will carry on your supreme seed. Absolutely. They are betas and submit to my position as the dominant alpha male. |
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 2, 2018 10:31:43 GMT
An answer, of sorts, to your (rhetorical?) question. Now, as to the OP's (deliberately provocative?) question: if a man can't be a "real" man and still carry babies (or diaper them or push them in strollers), then he's not a "real" man I particularly care to associate with.Gender roles can be forced by expectations of society and what a men is supposed to represent and what a female is supposed to represent. I am not quite sure what Jackson's 'real' stance is on the issue, but it appears within the song that the image of the male suddenly changes to become a parody of what it was once 'supposed' to represent and image of macho is also an ideal therefore a fallacy. Is Jackson straight? If so, that would also give him a different perspective on what maleness is supposed to represent and any bias or prejudice can't be helped.
The question can't be answered as an absolute and that was my point. The genitals only represent the gender\sex—these are the same as far as I'm concerned—of the human, any other attributes that then come associated with the person are variable and capricious in nature.
Men cannot carry babies due to their biology, but a man that takes responsibility for the children he has fathered—which most men appear to do—is not the issue, but with the many women that make poor choices with some of the men they choose to get with. Men have these things called arms attached to their torsos and these can be used to carry babies. |
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