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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 17:44:56 GMT
Now, I don't normally push for R ratings. I don't usually think they add anything but gratuitous violence and swear words... But, I think it could give the BW movie the added kick that it needs.
I mean, the character is so tame in the MCU considering her actual background/skill set - which is fine. She's only a supporting player and the tone shouldn't be altered just for her. But in a solo movie they have to go darker.
Think about it: she's an assassin with a past full of very dark deeds, many of them quite sinister. We should find out more about what she actually did a la the Bourne movies. So far, they've been delibrately vague so as to not make her unlikable - which is a bit of a cop out. Also, her name implicitly implies that she seduces her victims, something we have yet to see.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 17, 2018 17:54:08 GMT
They made a rated R Black Widow movie and called it Red Sparrow. It was terrible.
Seriously though, I'd be down to see something closer to the comic book character. I've never been a fan of ScarJo's interpretation. Some of it is her, but a lot of it is the writing.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 17, 2018 18:18:10 GMT
Disagree. R rating is not needed.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 17, 2018 20:47:50 GMT
Pirate movies should be rated aaarrrggghhh!
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Post by politicidal on Oct 17, 2018 21:59:08 GMT
They made a rated R Black Widow movie and called it Red Sparrow. It was terrible. Really I loved Red Sparrow. Felt like James Bond meets Basic Instinct. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 23:04:54 GMT
Now, I don't normally push for R ratings. I don't usually think they add anything but gratuitous violence and swear words... But, I think it could give the BW movie the added kick that it needs. I mean, the character is so tame in the MCU considering her actual background/skill set - which is fine. She's only a supporting player and the tone shouldn't be altered just for her. But in a solo movie they have to go darker. Think about it: she's an assassin with a past full of very dark deeds, many of them quite sinister. We should find out more about what she actually did a la the Bourne movies. So far, they've been delibrately vague so as to not make her unlikable - which is a bit of a cop out. Also, her name implicitly implies that she seduces her victims, something we have yet to see. How many Bond films are rated R? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 17, 2018 23:05:11 GMT
Absolutely!
Shame that this board is mostly Anti-R rated. Why? I'm not sure. Maybe they're not old enough to see a R rated film.
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Post by hobowar on Oct 17, 2018 23:12:03 GMT
Black Widow: Full Penetration
GIVE BLACK WIDOW THE FULL PENETRATION!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 18, 2018 0:14:23 GMT
An R-rated Black Widow movie probably wouldn't turn out much better than a pre-Netflix Punisher outing. The R would be a license to throw creativity out of the window and turn in a CGI-blood fest.
The only value an R rating might bring is showing that her adversaries are nastier than the incompetent Russian contingent from the Avengers.
I don't think her story is in tradecraft, skill set or generic espionage badassery. It's in her legend. Who is Natasha Romanoff and what is her end game? The story is in her moral flexibility, her skill at psychological manipulation and her ability to wear any face that suits the moment. When you play that game day in and day out, you have to become somewhat dissociative.
Instead of a search for a grubby wrongdoer, the Black Widow movie should be primarily about her search for the Black Widow.
What's in a name? Would that which we call a Black Widow by any other name be as deadly or as sweet?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 0:18:10 GMT
Her moral ambiguity makes her more useful to the team than she seems on the surface. There's depths to which the others won't go. She's dangerous.
If it happens, I'll just take anything. The iron's lukewarm at this point so frankly, if it's good, I'll take it regardless of rating.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 18, 2018 0:19:42 GMT
Absolutely! Shame that this board is mostly Anti-R rated. Why? I'm not sure. Maybe they're not old enough to see a R rated film.! How’d you sneak in and steal hauntedknight87’s account? |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 18, 2018 0:19:46 GMT
Would that which we call a Black Widow by any other name be as deadly or as sweet? I'm gonna go with "sweet" |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 18, 2018 0:21:32 GMT
Would that which we call a Black Widow by any other name be as deadly or as sweet? I'm gonna go with "sweet" Good choice, barring an family history of diabetes, you should be fine. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 18, 2018 0:23:10 GMT
Absolutely! Shame that this board is mostly Anti-R rated. Why? I'm not sure. Maybe they're not old enough to see a R rated film. ! How’d you sneak in and steal hauntedknight87’s account? lmao |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 18, 2018 0:27:28 GMT
I hear that when Sony finally makes "Black Cat" it will be a kitty film.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 2:29:56 GMT
Now, I don't normally push for R ratings. I don't usually think they add anything but gratuitous violence and swear words... But, I think it could give the BW movie the added kick that it needs. I mean, the character is so tame in the MCU considering her actual background/skill set - which is fine. She's only a supporting player and the tone shouldn't be altered just for her. But in a solo movie they have to go darker. Think about it: she's an assassin with a past full of very dark deeds, many of them quite sinister. We should find out more about what she actually did a la the Bourne movies. So far, they've been delibrately vague so as to not make her unlikable - which is a bit of a cop out. Also, her name implicitly implies that she seduces her victims, something we have yet to see. How many Bond films are rated R? Black Widow and Bond are very different characters. I think Bourne is a more apt comparison because both are trying to escape a dark past of amoral deeds. But point taken. It doesn't need to be R, but it does need to be darker than a typical spy movie romp. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 2:30:45 GMT
Black Widow: Full Penetration GIVE BLACK WIDOW THE FULL PENETRATION!!!!!!!!1111!!!! YES!!!!1!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 2:31:10 GMT
I hear that when Sony finally makes "Black Cat" it will be a kitty film. Hee hee hee |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 2:37:20 GMT
An R-rated Black Widow movie probably wouldn't turn out much better than a pre-Netflix Punisher outing. The R would be a license to throw creativity out of the window and turn in a CGI-blood fest. The only value an R rating might bring is showing that her adversaries are nastier than the incompetent Russian contingent from the Avengers. I don't think her story is in tradecraft, skill set or generic espionage badassery. It's in her legend. Who is Natasha Romanoff and what is her end game? The story is in her moral flexibility, her skill at psychological manipulation and her ability to wear any face that suits the moment. When you play that game day in and day out, you have to become somewhat dissociative. Instead of a search for a grubby wrongdoer, the Black Widow movie should be primarily about her search for the Black Widow. What's in a name? Would that which we call a Black Widow by any other name be as deadly or as sweet? I don't want it to have excessive/violence or gore. I just think it needs to have dark themes and maybe some strong sexual content. It can be PG-13 but it can't ignore the details of her backstory or the dark nature of her character... It has to "go there" otherwise what's the point? I always disliked her in the MCU because they try to imply a dark past to drive her character arc, but rarely actually touch on it- or even portray her as regretful or possibly amoral. If it's just going to be another lighthearted spy movie with a quip spouting badass then I will have zero interest. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 2:38:33 GMT
Her moral ambiguity makes her more useful to the team than she seems on the surface. There's depths to which the others won't go. She's dangerous.
If it happens, I'll just take anything. The iron's lukewarm at this point so frankly, if it's good, I'll take it regardless of rating.
Which isn't really touched on very much outside of Winter Soldier. If the movie explores this then I'm all for it. |
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