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Post by ant-mac on Oct 22, 2018 11:57:09 GMT
Possibly one day but I think most of us will be dead long before that ever happens.  Without a doubt...
And I'll miss you all.
I plan to live forever, or die trying. 
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Post by alfromni on Oct 22, 2018 14:19:27 GMT
Is next week soon enough?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 22, 2018 14:58:34 GMT
What he IS saying is that its ridiculous to try to predict the future and its technology. And he does bring up the problems so that his audience understands the difficulty. He also raises some possibilities too though. But he doesn't say it will not happen.
So SORRY to YOU... 
That sounds similar to some of the things I've been saying on this thread...  RIP IMDB totally misrepresented DeGrasse's presentation. And did so in bold blue letters, as if to accentuate how stupid WE are, when in fact all it did was show how misinformed HE was! I love it... |
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 22, 2018 15:04:49 GMT
That sounds similar to some of the things I've been saying on this thread... RIP IMDB totally misrepresented DeGrasse's presentation. And did so in bold blue letters, as if to accentuate how stupid WE are, when in fact all it did was show how misinformed HE was! I love it... He has not exactly covered himself in glory on this thread.
Or on another thread on this message board featuring a doomed stuntman.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 22, 2018 15:05:15 GMT
Nope
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 22, 2018 15:27:13 GMT
We seem to have made such little progress since landing on the moon. So much money spent in the decades since then and not only have we not colonized, we don't even visit there anymore. Going further than the moon, whether it be in our solar system or another, seems impossible. We don't seem to have the technology to be able to travel that far into space.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 15:30:50 GMT
We seem to have made such little progress since landing on the moon. So much money spent in the decades since then and not only have we not colonized, we don't even visit there anymore. Going further than the moon, whether it be in our solar system or another, seems impossible. We don't seem to have the technology to be able to travel that far into space. I think it is more about the pocketbook than technology. Robots rolling around Mars for decades, vs the cost of sending humans. Space X may just be the one that cuts the cost down, was will see. |
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 22, 2018 15:35:34 GMT
We seem to have made such little progress since landing on the moon. So much money spent in the decades since then and not only have we not colonized, we don't even visit there anymore. Going further than the moon, whether it be in our solar system or another, seems impossible. We don't seem to have the technology to be able to travel that far into space. I think it is more about the pocketbook than technology. Robots rolling around Mars for decades, vs the cost of sending humans. Space X may just be the one that cuts the cost down, was will see. I'm not trying to say that space exploration isn't expensive business, but if you think that we are capable of traveling to other planets and living there and the only reason were not doing it is because of money, you're nuts. It's considered a big deal when we can get an unmanned rocket to take off and land by itself. Were not even close to colonizing other planets or moons. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 22, 2018 15:41:29 GMT
Interstellar travel may very well be all but unfeasible, but it would be stupid and short-sighted to discount the possibility entirely.
Personally I think that if the human race can avoid self-destruction (or the destruction of the little semblance of a technological civilisation that we currently have), then we will be traveling to neighbouring solar systems within the next 1000 years - possibly on generational ships, but who knows - maybe a different solution exists.
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Post by kevin on Oct 22, 2018 15:42:01 GMT
The solar system, yes probably. It will take a long time, but as long as we don't destroy ourselves by warfare it will eventually happen. We might even go to different star systems in the far future and have colonies in other star systems. So an interstellar civilization is, I think, possible. However, the galaxy is a whole different story. Even if you could travel at the speed of light, colonizing the galaxy would take millions of years. Theoretically possible, but very unlikely. By the time humans would have colonized the galaxy the different people on different planets would already have evolved seperately, so in that sense it won't even be 'humans' as we know it that inhabit the galaxy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 16:00:03 GMT
I think it is more about the pocketbook than technology. Robots rolling around Mars for decades, vs the cost of sending humans. Space X may just be the one that cuts the cost down, was will see. I'm not trying to say that space exploration isn't expensive business, but if you think that we are capable of traveling to other planets and living there and the only reason were not doing it is because of money, you're nuts. It's considered a big deal when we can get an unmanned rocket to take off and land by itself. Were not even close to colonizing other planets or moons. Oh there are challenges to overcome, but our reasoning for not pushing the envelope was budgetary. Not much reason to spend so m uch money on continuing a race you won. We would have already colonized the moon if there was an economic benefit, but there just isn't enough money to be made to justify the cost. Why else did we cancel the last scheduled Apollo landings? |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 22, 2018 19:51:56 GMT
Let me give you all a scenario to ponder...
There are tons of asteroids floating in our solar system. Most of them are covered in space dust so they look like simple rocks. But we've been sending space probes to several of them. Some of those probes have even landed on them (I even posted a link to one such event on a previous thread!).
Lets say one of those probes is tasked with digging through the "space dust" covering one of those asteroids and finds, of all things, GOLD! Or even Better DIAMONDS! This is not impossible. If an asteroid can be made of one type of earthbound mineral it can be made of any. Gold or Diamonds might be found out there. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
For arguments sake lets say we found an asteroid that was several tons worth of Diamonds. In other words a Diamond as big as several houses.
Do you think that the government wouldn't spend any amount of money and resources to send people out there to secure it and mine it and bring it back?! HELL YES THEY WOULD!
It would start an economic boom in space travel and space mining technology greater than anything the world has seen since the industrial age! We'd be all over that! Instead of "Go West!" It would be "Go to Space!" They would be right in thinking that if one asteroid has diamonds that there might be others, maybe even many others!
And no matter what hurdle was in the way, we would have both the reason and the resources to overcome them. Money and will are all we need to get the worlds greatest minds on the mission. Believe it or not, we already understand so much of what we need to do overcome the hurdles. The problems in space travel are actually pretty well understood.
Those of you who cant see that its possible are doing so because you think this is silly sci-fi stuff and/or cant imagine what technology will be like 50 or even 100 years from now. I cant even DREAM of what technology might be like 200 years from now. For all we know we might actually have solved ALL these problems 200 years from now.
The moon race went from not being able to put a man in space to being able to put a man on the moon within just EIGHT YEARS! From zero to the moon in just EIGHT YEARS! (Gagarin 1961, Armstrong 1969) Because they had the will and the resources. If we had maintained the will and the resources since then we would ALREADY be on Mars. I 100% believe that.
But we lost the will after we won the race, and then the Space Shuttle disasters took the steam out from under us.
Still, if you can imagine a thing, someone sooner or later someone will build that thing. Whether it be a railroad that crosses an entire country, or a plane that can cross the Atlantic, or a space ship that can carry people to another planet. Just because it's unlikely now, doesn't mean its impossible forever. |
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