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Post by dazz on Nov 10, 2018 14:21:31 GMT
I would argue he never had a bad one, Curry is Curry and Curry is the fucking man, and a delicious dinner as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 11:27:46 GMT
I heard about that but after what Dinah said in the flash forwards to the future I am pretty certain Roy is the new Green Arrow now 'cause Dinah has never met Roy in the previous seasons and she clearly knows Roy in the future and has some type of history with him so I think Roy is the new Green Arrow and he has returned to Star City to take over the mantle while Oliver is in prison. I have read they are not going to drag it out too long and we will know who the new Green Arrow is before the end of the year so I think it will be revealed in the next two or three episodes and if Dinah or Renee see his face they won't know who he is at first. Yeah but you also thought Roy was Vigilante and we know where that got yah
Also no one needs to know Roy to know who he is, he was the guy people thought for several years was THE Arrow, remember Oliver revealing he not only is the Green Arrow but The Arrow/Hood was a surprise to the recruits in S5, Dinah also would surely know him from somewhere down the line in the what 10-15 years between present day and the flash forwards.
Also Roy being in the show only in the flash forwards for now works to keep him leaving with Thea in S6 make sense, why did he just leave her again after years apart after a few months? Roy is meant to be a red herring imo to make people think he's the new Green Arrow when he's not.
Yeah true but to be fair I wasn't the only one who thought that and there were a lot of fans who also thought Roy or Tommy were Prometheus back in Season 5 and he turned out to be the Adrian Chase who was the Vigilante in the comic books. It is hard to tell with these things sometimes 'cause they often end up not being who we think they are going to be which leads to disappointment but I was glad Vigilante's identity wasn't predictable and he did turn out to be a meta-human like I said he would. I knew he wasn't normal 'cause nobody can fall off a building that high and just be fine a few seconds later and there was also the explosion from Curtis's balls he wore the full blast of and got away very quickly. What they did with him was disappointing though and I am hoping that doesn't turn out to be the case with whoever the new Green Arrow is. I think whoever it turns out to be will be somebody we have already seen on the show and it might be William from the future but I am not sure how he would go back in time like this. You are right about Roy with Thea but I am hoping they add him to the present soon 'cause it sounds like he works with the team for a while. By the way, who do you think Oliver's friend in prison is? Do you think he is Killer Moth without the costume? You were saying about holding Killer Moth off until later with the Longbow Hunters and maybe that will be a big twist and he will get out and put the costume on.
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Post by dazz on Nov 26, 2018 20:36:58 GMT
Had not thought about Stanley as Killer Moth now that could be cool, but damn you Deb for saying it out loud you know what these people are like, they take our joke theories and use them, they purposely ignore the smart ones, you my dead have just doomed us all, doomed, DOOMED!!!
I still believe FGA *fake green arrow* is who the leaks said it is a while back, I don't think we have seen them on the show yet either, and given how certain things happened last season it makes sense in a CW maintain the status quo approach to a lot of their shows that who the leaks say FGA is will be who it is.
I kind of like the idea that Roy will be flash forwards only for most of the season, keeps him on the show but out of the present storyline until say the season finale when he joins the team in the present going forward, I don't buy William is the FGA because whilst time travel is possible in these shows it feels wrong to have both Flash & Arrow doing the same storyline at the same time just slightly different.
I just like Roy is the go to answer and focus for you at times, like when we got Doppleganger a few seasons ago and because Roy was back that episode you were like are we getting two Roys? how? why? not figuring Doppleganger refered to the doppleganger of Laurel's, TBF neither did I until the episode aired but then it made perfect sense who it was referring to in the episode, but you didn't pick up on it due to having Roy on the brain, I found it all very funny.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 27, 2018 22:59:33 GMT
Here's a thought; it is Future William, and rather than being a repeat of the story on the Flash, it's a related continuation. William didn't travel back in time alone, but rather Nora brought him back with her.
The only problem I suppose is that Nora's supposed to be from like, 30 years in the future, but when has such a small detail like that ever stopped these writers?
dazz, can you post in spoiler tags who has been reported to be the Faurrow? You've hinted at it, but I mainly see news about the shows through discussion here; so you've piqued my curiosity as to who it might be.
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Post by dazz on Nov 27, 2018 23:18:06 GMT
Here's a thought; it is Future William, and rather than being a repeat of the story on the Flash, it's a related continuation. William didn't travel back in time alone, but rather Nora brought him back with her. The only problem I suppose is that Nora's supposed to be from like, 30 years in the future, but when has such a small detail like that ever stopped these writers? dazz, can you post in spoiler tags who has been reported to be the Faurrow? You've hinted at it, but I mainly see news about the shows through discussion here; so you've piqued my curiosity as to who it might be. Sure.
Episode 10's title was leaked about a month back to some places but I don't think got around too much before it got caught, but Episode 10 is or was titled in the leak as "My name is Emiko Queen" and they supposedly cast an actress called Sea Shimooka for the role, this imo fits the CW style of replace one character with another to fill in, we lost Thea so Oliver is getting a new half sister on the show, and makes sense because CW they love family & relationship drama, so a new sister who is the half sister via his father not his mother this time fits the bill nicely.
Also she started filming for the show around Episode 8's filming, episode 8 being called Unmasked makes sense with 10 being My name is and then the unconnected crossover separating the two why she would start filming for Ep8 as that's either when Oliver or we finally see her face. Now all of that could be BS but I think it works and I like the sound of it/plausibility of it more than I do it's Roy who should be with Thea and hiding for some reason or time travelling William who also I don't think is meant to be as physically capable as Oliver I mean he had to get Roy to shoot the password code at the holographic balls...god what a stupid sentence...to get into Felicities computer files, so I doubt he's the FGA, but that's just me.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Nov 28, 2018 0:09:02 GMT
Hmm... Interesting. I wouldn't necessarily solely blame the CW, as I do believe element of that came out of the comics, including that name. That said, it seems highly suspect to me, by virtue of the fact of how much of a spoiler it would be; I mean surely they would know the name of an episode would be released well in advance of the episode airing, even if they didn't expect to be released that early, I would think it would be out more than two weeks prior to the episode airing, which would be the least amount of lead time between episode 8 and episode 10. And episode 8's purported title seems too on the nose too. It would seem really stupid to potentially give that much away in an episode title. Even if that person wasn't the Faurrow, to announce their presence at all in the episode title would seem like a bad practice, especially if they aren't introduced well in advance of that episode.
I mean, I could be wrong; the show runners aren't exactly rocket scientists... or good at their actual job...
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Post by dazz on Nov 28, 2018 1:13:44 GMT
Hmm... Interesting. I wouldn't necessarily solely blame the CW, as I do believe element of that came out of the comics, including that name. That said, it seems highly suspect to me, by virtue of the fact of how much of a spoiler it would be; I mean surely they would know the name of an episode would be released well in advance of the episode airing, even if they didn't expect to be released that early, I would think it would be out more than two weeks prior to the episode airing, which would be the least amount of lead time between episode 8 and episode 10. And episode 8's purported title seems too on the nose too. It would seem really stupid to potentially give that much away in an episode title. Even if that person wasn't the Faurrow, to announce their presence at all in the episode title would seem like a bad practice, especially if they aren't introduced well in advance of that episode. I mean, I could be wrong; the show runners aren't exactly rocket scientists... or good at their actual job... No but choosing that character specifically fits with the CW's preferences, theirs a reason Roy & William from the future are brought up because they are also valid options you could choose from, and there are likely a lot more to pick from, just happens this one seems to fit the CW's tick list.
I think the thing was that may have been the working title but not meant to be sent out, or it was who knows at the time of that release the Arrow title for their Elseworlds event was Hour 2, now it seems to be Elseworlds Prt 2, could be the actual title for the episode I mentioned was meant to be trimmed down or altered slightly, but they kind of gave away who the Demon was just by the name, an obvious sign it would be an Al Gul, I mean CW also put out an episode called the Death of Vibe as Ep 3 of a season on a show when the actor wasn't leaving, making it kind of obvious the character wasn't going to die, and just titled the last episode The Icicle Cometh clearly declaring just what was going to be happening with Caitlyn's dad, like you said these people aren't that good at their jobs.
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Post by BexxyJ on Dec 21, 2018 12:03:54 GMT
The new Green Arrow is Oliver’s sister but is she really here to save this city like brother or doom us all like that lying bitch Nora Allen or whoever her real name is? Why has she not spoken to her brother since she has come to the city and said I’m your long lost sister Oliver? I find her actions to be very suspicious. She’s not working for the League of Assassinators or Hydra?
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Post by General Kenobi on Dec 23, 2018 0:05:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 12:29:11 GMT
Had not thought about Stanley as Killer Moth now that could be cool, but damn you Deb for saying it out loud you know what these people are like, they take our joke theories and use them, they purposely ignore the smart ones, you my dead have just doomed us all, doomed, DOOMED!!! I still believe FGA *fake green arrow* is who the leaks said it is a while back, I don't think we have seen them on the show yet either, and given how certain things happened last season it makes sense in a CW maintain the status quo approach to a lot of their shows that who the leaks say FGA is will be who it is. I kind of like the idea that Roy will be flash forwards only for most of the season, keeps him on the show but out of the present storyline until say the season finale when he joins the team in the present going forward, I don't buy William is the FGA because whilst time travel is possible in these shows it feels wrong to have both Flash & Arrow doing the same storyline at the same time just slightly different. I just like Roy is the go to answer and focus for you at times, like when we got Doppleganger a few seasons ago and because Roy was back that episode you were like are we getting two Roys? how? why? not figuring Doppleganger refered to the doppleganger of Laurel's, TBF neither did I until the episode aired but then it made perfect sense who it was referring to in the episode, but you didn't pick up on it due to having Roy on the brain, I found it all very funny. Hey!! They have actually used a lot of my ideas on these shows and I have guessed a number of things that were going to happen in 'Arrow', 'The Flash', 'Supergirl' and 'DC's Legends of Tomorrow' months before they appeared and it was me on here who wrote it would be funny if they had a giant Beebo walking down the streets destroying things like the Marshmallow Man in 'Ghostbusters' and the Black Kryptonite could end up separating Sam and Reign from each other and look who was right? They just execute my ideas poorly and Reign would have been so much better separated from Sam if they unleashed her in the alien form. I also guessed the time jump in 'Gotham' which has been confirmed to be happening this season so maybe Stanley will still turn out to be Killer Moth but I am hoping if he does they get the costume right and his abilities. I think it is too late to say he is a Metahuman now so they are best to use the Killer Moth who has all the same abilities but they are in his costume and gun and he has a jetpack. Green Arrow has never faced anybody with a jetpack and it would be interesting to see Oliver face somebody wearing one of those and it was a shame they didn't give us a proper version of Firefly 'cause a fight between Oliver and Firefly like the one with Batman and firefly on the bridge in 'Arkham Origins' would be fun to see.
Now we know who the new Green Arrow is we are left with a lot of questions as BexxyJ pointed out in her post above and I do wonder if they are going to pull a twist and have her turn out to be a villain too 'cause it wouldn't be the first time they have pulled a twist like that with a character and look at what they did with Adrian Chase. I think she will replace Thea though and become a regular when they find out who she is and Oliver talks to her more but it is odd they are bringing another sister into it this far into the show and the way they are doing it looks like they are setting her up to be Speedy 2 or this show's version of Arrowette which would be disappointing 'cause I would rather see Cissie King-Jones but without her Mother appearing previously they would have to change her backstory. I am still curious how the future flashes are going to play into this season and I still think we could end up seeing Roy in the present day before the season ends.
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Post by dazz on Jan 17, 2019 14:55:46 GMT
Had not thought about Stanley as Killer Moth now that could be cool, but damn you Deb for saying it out loud you know what these people are like, they take our joke theories and use them, they purposely ignore the smart ones, you my dead have just doomed us all, doomed, DOOMED!!! I still believe FGA *fake green arrow* is who the leaks said it is a while back, I don't think we have seen them on the show yet either, and given how certain things happened last season it makes sense in a CW maintain the status quo approach to a lot of their shows that who the leaks say FGA is will be who it is. I kind of like the idea that Roy will be flash forwards only for most of the season, keeps him on the show but out of the present storyline until say the season finale when he joins the team in the present going forward, I don't buy William is the FGA because whilst time travel is possible in these shows it feels wrong to have both Flash & Arrow doing the same storyline at the same time just slightly different. I just like Roy is the go to answer and focus for you at times, like when we got Doppleganger a few seasons ago and because Roy was back that episode you were like are we getting two Roys? how? why? not figuring Doppleganger refered to the doppleganger of Laurel's, TBF neither did I until the episode aired but then it made perfect sense who it was referring to in the episode, but you didn't pick up on it due to having Roy on the brain, I found it all very funny. Hey!! They have actually used a lot of my ideas on these shows and I have guessed a number of things that were going to happen in 'Arrow', 'The Flash', 'Supergirl' and 'DC's Legends of Tomorrow' months before they appeared and it was me on here who wrote it would be funny if they had a giant Beebo walking down the streets destroying things like the Marshmallow Man in 'Ghostbusters' and the Black Kryptonite could end up separating Sam and Reign from each other and look who was right? They just execute my ideas poorly and Reign would have been so much better separated from Sam if they unleashed her in the alien form. I also guessed the time jump in 'Gotham' which has been confirmed to be happening this season so maybe Stanley will still turn out to be Killer Moth but I am hoping if he does they get the costume right and his abilities. I think it is too late to say he is a Metahuman now so they are best to use the Killer Moth who has all the same abilities but they are in his costume and gun and he has a jetpack. Green Arrow has never faced anybody with a jetpack and it would be interesting to see Oliver face somebody wearing one of those and it was a shame they didn't give us a proper version of Firefly 'cause a fight between Oliver and Firefly like the one with Batman and firefly on the bridge in 'Arkham Origins' would be fun to see.
Now we know who the new Green Arrow is we are left with a lot of questions as BexxyJ pointed out in her post above and I do wonder if they are going to pull a twist and have her turn out to be a villain too 'cause it wouldn't be the first time they have pulled a twist like that with a character and look at what they did with Adrian Chase. I think she will replace Thea though and become a regular when they find out who she is and Oliver talks to her more but it is odd they are bringing another sister into it this far into the show and the way they are doing it looks like they are setting her up to be Speedy 2 or this show's version of Arrowette which would be disappointing 'cause I would rather see Cissie King-Jones but without her Mother appearing previously they would have to change her backstory. I am still curious how the future flashes are going to play into this season and I still think we could end up seeing Roy in the present day before the season ends.
Lets be fair the black K and the Gotham time jump were obvious so you get no points for those Deb, we all joked about Supergirl essentially copying a lot of the Doomsday storyline from Smallville which included the black K, I agree they should have given her Reigns true form after though, and well Gotham it's been obvious since S1, unless the show went 10 seasons we'd need to do a time jump for Bruce to become Batman, I give you credit/blame for Beebo though.
But like I said they never take the good ideas they take the goofy ones that or they ruin the good ones, iirc you were calling for Reign prior to them using her and you had cool idea how to use her and then they used her and made a shitty season from it.
See they don't need to rip off your ideas they need to hire you to actually think of the storylines and help write them, just you know limit you to introducing 1 or 2 long term new characters at a time because you know if they let you loose on that we'd have a YJ or JLU amount of characters 75% of which most people would have no clue of hehehe.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 17, 2019 16:00:10 GMT
Well at least we know that the new Green Arrow is really hot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 12:00:23 GMT
Lets be fair the black K and the Gotham time jump were obvious so you get no points for those Deb, we all joked about Supergirl essentially copying a lot of the Doomsday storyline from Smallville which included the black K, I agree they should have given her Reigns true form after though, and well Gotham it's been obvious since S1, unless the show went 10 seasons we'd need to do a time jump for Bruce to become Batman, I give you credit/blame for Beebo though.
But like I said they never take the good ideas they take the goofy ones that or they ruin the good ones, iirc you were calling for Reign prior to them using her and you had cool idea how to use her and then they used her and made a shitty season from it.
See they don't need to rip off your ideas they need to hire you to actually think of the storylines and help write them, just you know limit you to introducing 1 or 2 long term new characters at a time because you know if they let you loose on that we'd have a YJ or JLU amount of characters 75% of which most people would have no clue of hehehe.
Yeah. I suppose. The time jump in 'Gotham' has been talked about for a long time and many fans believed they were going to do it much earlier in Season 3 or 4 but they appear to be holding it off until the end now. I don't think they would have been allowed to make a full season of 'Gotham' with Bruce as Batman 'cause Warner Bros wouldn't let such a thing happen with their top character but I thought a season that took place right before Bruce become Batman when he was in his late 20s would have been interesting and given them the chance to have older versions of the villains that were more in line with the comic books. I am still disappointed 'Gotham' is ending this year and isn't returning for a sixth season 'cause there are still so many Batman villains they could have used in the show and i heard if it had gone for another season they had plans for the Calendar Man and I am surprised they didn't use him in one of the earlier seasons for a Christmas themed episode 'cause the version in the 'Arkham' games would have been perfect for 'Gotham.' I am predicting now it will end with Bruce knowing Selina is Catwoman and Selina knowing Bruce is Batman and Selina won't become a villain like they are making it look like she might be in the latest episodes.
The sad thing with DC shows a character like Batman is suited for a 10 season show more than a prequel show and just about any other superhero and I read the writers of 'Gotham' wanted to make a Batman show but couldn't so they decided to make 'Gotham' instead and that seems to have been the same case with the 'Arrow' writers too. A 10 season TV show of 'Batman' could be brilliant with the right people and featured many of the Bat Family characters and villains and played out a lot of the storylines from the comic books but the only show we ever got was the Adam West show which was a long time ago now. One thing I don't understand is why it took so long to get Batman back on screen after that show and why there were no live action adaptions of 'Batman' in the 70s or 80s. I heard there was one movie they were developing before the Michael Keaton movie that didn't get made but why no 80s TV show?
The 'Arrowverse' writers have been bad with their delivery and what they did with Reign was disappointing and how she looked inside of Sam's dreams made no sense now since she didn't look like that when they separated her from Sam. I could be helpful to the writers of a superhero TV show and I couldn't run a TV show myself 'cause I don't know where you would begin with that but I do have better ideas for characters than a lot of the shows have. Ohh and a lot of people don't know these characters either way and I was there on forums when the Green Arrow joined 'Smallville' and most fans had no idea who he was and were calling him a Robin Hood knockoff and he is one of DC's most well known superheroes now thanks to 'Smallville' and 'Arrow.'
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