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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 23, 2018 18:37:50 GMT
Light Years describes BOTH distance AND time. Duh! When you use that term with a scientist he/she immediately understands both the length of time and distance. J/S ^ that's a Lucasian misconception. A Light-year like a parsec is a unit of length commonly employed to express astronomical distances. It's about 9.5 trillion kilometres (5.9 trillion miles). IAU defines light-year as distance that light travels in vacuum space in one (Julian calender) Earth year (365.25 days). Light travels a lot slower through objects like water etc. Only way to save this would be to say that there is no space and time, there is only the fabric of spacetime.
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 23, 2018 18:46:34 GMT
The MCU is a little bit too good to winning awards, but Black Panther was light years better than Dark Knight so I'd be fine if it won something. I can't accept that Black Panther is better than The Dark Knight. To each their own preference wise, and I certainly didn't think Black Panther was weak, but better than The Dark Knight is too tall an order for the MCU to fill. Its best offering, whatever it is, is a distant second to The Dark Knight. Which is no shortcoming on any of them. The Dark Knight swung for the fences. Black Panther is much more surface level, which isn't a criticism. It means it's a movie that aims to please without making deeper commentary. Nolan can drone on and he took so much time with the first and second act that the third was too rushed, but even with that, The Dark Knight is way ahead of Black Panther. Not light years, but far enough that if they won the same award years apart it would devalue the award. The Winter Soldier might be better.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 23, 2018 19:03:44 GMT
Light Years describes BOTH distance AND time. Duh! When you use that term with a scientist he/she immediately understands both the length of time and distance. J/S What about parsecs? Parsec covers about 3.25 light years
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 23, 2018 19:04:51 GMT
Parsec covers about 3.25 light years
Well, in that case, I can do it in 12.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 23, 2018 19:08:14 GMT
Parsec covers about 3.25 light years
Well, in that case, I can do it in 12. only if you round it down, buddy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 19:17:08 GMT
I can't accept that Black Panther is better than The Dark Knight. To each their own preference wise, and I certainly didn't think Black Panther was weak, but better than The Dark Knight is too tall an order for the MCU to fill. Its best offering, whatever it is, is a distant second to The Dark Knight. Which is no shortcoming on any of them. The Dark Knight swung for the fences. Black Panther is much more surface level, which isn't a criticism. It means it's a movie that aims to please without making deeper commentary. Nolan can drone on and he took so much time with the first and second act that the third was too rushed, but even with that, The Dark Knight is way ahead of Black Panther. Not light years, but far enough that if they won the same award years apart it would devalue the award. The Winter Soldier might be better. Loved The Winter Soldier.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 23, 2018 19:44:31 GMT
Light Years describes BOTH distance AND time. Duh! When you use that term with a scientist he/she immediately understands both the length of time and distance. J/S ^ that's a Lucasian misconception. A Light-year like a parsec is a unit of length commonly employed to express astronomical distances. It's about 9.5 trillion kilometres (5.9 trillion miles). IAU defines light-year as distance that light travels in vacuum space in one (Julian calender) Earth year (365.25 days). Light travels a lot slower through objects like water etc. Only way to save this would be to say that there is no space and time, there is only the fabric of spacetime. Yes, light travels slower through different objects (and not at all in some!). BUT in the vacuum of space, assuming no obstructions, the fastest speed that can be achieved is that of light.
So, if I say something is a light year away you know that nothing can ever get there any sooner than a year from now. That statement has measured both space and the time that it takes to get there. Whether or not that's 100% accurate, its something that easily understood by the layman. It takes a year to get there.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 23, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
^ that's a Lucasian misconception. A Light-year like a parsec is a unit of length commonly employed to express astronomical distances. It's about 9.5 trillion kilometres (5.9 trillion miles). IAU defines light-year as distance that light travels in vacuum space in one (Julian calender) Earth year (365.25 days). Light travels a lot slower through objects like water etc. Only way to save this would be to say that there is no space and time, there is only the fabric of spacetime. Whether or not that's 100% accurate, its something that easily understood by the layman. It takes a year to get there.
LUCAS RAPED MY SCIENCE CLASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!6
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 23, 2018 20:30:29 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat?
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 23, 2018 21:06:17 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat? Pretty much. What some on this board don't realize is for a lot of film buffs the Heath Ledger and Logan award was seen as head pats. I had a more direct contact with the Ledger as I was forced to go to a Oscar Party because of a business contact. A hellish party to go too. Imagine around 300 people dressed to the 9's. I had to wear a fucking tuxedo for the 3rd time in my life. That type of party. At a pretty swanky country club in Columbia SC. All either business types and/or artist (usually the wives) and/or artist patrons. Everyone there were asked (ie forced to) donate a certain amount to either an art program or artist directly. When Heath Ledger won there were 3 reactions. A audible groan was the first reaction I saw/heard. We were playing Oscar games (to play you had to donate another amount) and everyone had to play. So as everyone is getting loosed up with alcohol during the night you get the second reaction. How movies are falling away from the art form it used to be. How a movie based on a comic book should've never been nominated. How it was banal. How the craft of movie making has become low and almost pornographic in it's crassness. etc etc. And the 3rd reaction when the game was finally tallied and people saw other's picks. If you picked Heath to win you either were betting on the sympathy of the academy (the headpat) or you were so lacking in a critical eye when it comes to art that you thought his performance was anything other than garish and tacky. Therefore you were garish and tacky. Luckily that was the only time I had to go to that party. And while I still hold fast that my personal opinion was that The Dark Knight wasn't on the level that the others in the category and Heath's performance wasn't on the level of his other nominees, I didn't hold the disdain for the subject or the genre. I just don't think we've had a comic book movie that based on it's merits deserved to be singled out as the top 5 (then) 10 (now) best works of art in film of that year. That's not to say that comic book and genre films aren't the type of films I enjoy the most. I can enjoy one movie 100x more than another movie and still recognize that the other movie is better work of art. Just as I recognize the craft, method, and expertise of a classically trained chef's food is way better than the bbq joint in town. I enjoy the $15 plate from Westwoods BBQ more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 21:46:31 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat? Pretty much. What some on this board don't realize is for a lot of film buffs the Heath Ledger and Logan award was seen as head pats. I had a more direct contact with the Ledger as I was forced to go to a Oscar Party because of a business contact. A hellish party to go too. Imagine around 300 people dressed to the 9's. I had to wear a fucking tuxedo for the 3rd time in my life. That type of party. At a pretty swanky country club in Columbia SC. All either business types and/or artist (usually the wives) and/or artist patrons. Everyone there were asked (ie forced to) donate a certain amount to either an art program or artist directly. When Heath Ledger won there were 3 reactions. A audible groan was the first reaction I saw/heard. We were playing Oscar games (to play you had to donate another amount) and everyone had to play. So as everyone is getting loosed up with alcohol during the night you get the second reaction. How movies are falling away from the art form it used to be. How a movie based on a comic book should've never been nominated. How it was banal. How the craft of movie making has become low and almost pornographic in it's crassness. etc etc. And the 3rd reaction when the game was finally tallied and people saw other's picks. If you picked Heath to win you either were betting on the sympathy of the academy (the headpat) or you were so lacking in a critical eye when it comes to art that you thought his performance was anything other than garish and tacky. Therefore you were garish and tacky. Luckily that was the only time I had to go to that party. And while I still hold fast that my personal opinion was that The Dark Knight wasn't on the level that the others in the category and Heath's performance wasn't on the level of his other nominees, I didn't hold the disdain for the subject or the genre. I just don't think we've had a comic book movie that based on it's merits deserved to be singled out as the top 5 (then) 10 (now) best works of art in film of that year. That's not to say that comic book and genre films aren't the type of films I enjoy the most. I can enjoy one movie 100x more than another movie and still recognize that the other movie is better work of art. Just as I recognize the craft, method, and expertise of a classically trained chef's food is way better than the bbq joint in town. I enjoy the $15 plate from Westwoods BBQ more. I wouldn't have put Logan up there with The Dark Knight. Superhero movies for me have a wider leniency for error because I like them. I'm more willing to tolerate their faults than say, a romantic comedy, but a stellar romantic comedy is by any other definition a stellar movie.
Similarly, The Dark Knight (though I found it less structurally solid than Batman Begins) is (in my opinion) a really stellar movie that also happens to be a superhero movie. To me, it almost exists in the same vein of a movie like The Social Network, in as much as I thought The Social Network was really good despite the fact that I had no interest in the subject material going in. I think in some ways, it goes to show that a solid director, actors who come to play or any combination of the above + more can suss a good movie out of any material.
I also distinguish movies I like versus movies that are good. Some movies I like are awful but I still like them, and there are certainly movies I don't like for its subject material or direction alone but I've no interest in pretending they're not palatable good movies. I rag on plenty of movies that I watch whenever they're on because, my technical opinion of them aside, it's my brain and I'll feed it however I like. The Dark Knight aimed to be a cut above, which is why its failures stand out a little more, but the truly flawless movies I've ever seen probably number less than 10 and The Dark Knight isn't one of them. But my opinion of the caliber of its effort remains unchanged all these years later, despite the fact that, like you, on any average night I'm just as down for the 15 dollar BBQ plate than the fine dining. And I work in fine dining.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 24, 2018 4:54:39 GMT
So, if I say something is a light year away you know that nothing can ever get there any sooner than a year from now. That statement has measured both space and the time that it takes to get there. Whether or not that's 100% accurate, its something that easily understood by the layman. It takes a year to get there. Please, for the love of God, stop talking. This is getting painful to read. Light year is a measure of distance only. When you take the velocity of something and multiply it by a unit of time, what unit of measure are you left with? Hint: it ain’t time. Dimensional analysis. They teach it in high school.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 24, 2018 11:37:15 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat? Of course. Our resident MCU haters club seem to be genuinely terrified that BP might get some Oscar love. A prospect made all the more mortifying to them after that WW Oscar debacle.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 24, 2018 15:56:54 GMT
So, if I say something is a light year away you know that nothing can ever get there any sooner than a year from now. That statement has measured both space and the time that it takes to get there. Whether or not that's 100% accurate, its something that easily understood by the layman. It takes a year to get there. Please, for the love of God, stop talking. This is getting painful to read. Light year is a measure of distance only. When you take the velocity of something and multiply it by a unit of time, what unit of measure are you left with? Hint: it ain’t time. Dimensional analysis. They teach it in high school.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 24, 2018 16:54:59 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat? An Oscar is an Oscar, man. Once you win one, no one can take it away from you. That's why Ben Affleck and Matt Damon still call themselves "Academy Award Winners", for a screenplay they wrote 24 years ago.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Oct 24, 2018 17:17:42 GMT
Was the point of this thread to discredit Black Panther if it won an Oscar? If it doesn't win an award then Marvel sucks for not winning it. But if they do win, then it was a head pat? An Oscar is an Oscar, man. Once you win one, no one can take it away from you. That's why Ben Affleck and Matt Damon still call themselves "Academy Award Winners", for a screenplay they wrote 24 years ago. An Olympian is always an Olympian.
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Post by kuatorises on Oct 25, 2018 17:06:18 GMT
The MCU is a little bit too good to winning awards, but Black Panther was light years better than Dark Knight so I'd be fine if it won something.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 25, 2018 19:16:36 GMT
on the bright side, it will be a lot better if it scored in a major category than that popular stuff disney was trying to do.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 25, 2018 19:43:04 GMT
I don't think it would be funny OR sad if Black Panther had won the "Popular Movie" category. I think it would have absolutely won that. Since they never instituted that category we'll never know.
But the more important issue is that the "Popular Movie" category is unnecessary. The regular Best Film category already has slots for up to ten movies! Cant they just stick BP in there as the 9th or 10th? Duh. Problem solved.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 25, 2018 19:45:31 GMT
The MCU is a little bit too good to winning awards, but Black Panther was light years better than Dark Knight so I'd be fine if it won something.
Yeah, man. He crazy. You cant say some shit like that and be sane. lol
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