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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 28, 2018 0:17:21 GMT
"the changes proposed and pushed for by ABC."Who owns ABC? That just means ABC approved those changes, the AMPAS members decided on the changes. changes proposed and pushed for by ABC"Proposed and pushed for by ABC" means ABC, not the Academy, initiated, brought up, put forth, pushed forward the idea of the Most Popular Movie category. So thanks again for once again proving that I was 100% correct that Disney forced the Academy to create the Most Popular Movie category so Black Panther could get an Oscar nomination and thanks again for proving that MCU fans lack simple reading comprehension.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 28, 2018 0:18:30 GMT
avengers raised the bar higher? than TDK ? please what are u smoking.
avengers lowered the bar. once you remove the cross over effect, there is nothing in the film. its a near 3 hour toy commercial.
the genre is sort of dead again when you really thing about it. a film like logan had to more than distance itself from the crap we have know to even get the Oscar recognition it got.
My bad I should have specified for the mentally incompetent like yourself, TDK raised the bar from what Spiderman set in terms of financial peak of the cbm genre, Avengers then came and raised that bar even higher and IW did it again
No, Avengers and IW lowered the bar.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 28, 2018 0:19:54 GMT
Because it's true! It's damn true! Disney forced the Academy into creating the Most Popular Movie category Except, this “Most Popular Movie” catagory doesn’t actually exist. Because there was plenty of backlash as people realized that Disney forced the Academy into creating the category just so Black Panther could get a non-technical Oscar nomination.
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2018 2:27:38 GMT
My bad I should have specified for the mentally incompetent like yourself, TDK raised the bar from what Spiderman set in terms of financial peak of the cbm genre, Avengers then came and raised that bar even higher and IW did it again
No, Avengers and IW lowered the bar. No pretty sure higher box office numbers, the highest box offices of all cbm's with IW ousting Avengers for the highest gross and being the first cbm to break $2b means they raised the bar in terms of monetary success potential that a cbm can potentially reach.
Learn how to read and how to comprehend what the actual words actually mean you fucking simpleton.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 28, 2018 2:31:31 GMT
No, Avengers and IW lowered the bar. No pretty sure higher box office numbers, the highest box offices of all cbm's with IW ousting Avengers for the highest gross and being the first cbm to break $2b means they raised the bar in terms of monetary success potential that a cbm can potentially reach.
Learn how to read and how to comprehend what the actual words actually mean you fucking simpleton.
Box office doesn't set the bar. It's ratings that set the bar. Both critics and general audience have rated The Dark Knight not only the best CBM of all time but also 1 of the best movies (CBM or non-CBM) of all time. Nothing MCU has ever made even comes close to that. Avengers, IW, and MCU have definitely lowered the bar for CBMs.
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2018 2:43:00 GMT
That just means ABC approved those changes, the AMPAS members decided on the changes. changes proposed and pushed for by ABC"Proposed and pushed for by ABC" means ABC, not the Academy, initiated, brought up, put forth, pushed forward the idea of the Most Popular Movie category. So thanks again for once again proving that I was 100% correct that Disney forced the Academy to create the Most Popular Movie category so Black Panther could get an Oscar nomination and thanks again for proving that MCU fans lack simple reading comprehension.Actually you aren't, ABC could have pushed for those changes based on declining ratings reduced advertising and high scost of the awards, and that statistically the best Oscar numbers come from years when a major hit like a top 10 hit is majorly represented in the awards, more big movies up for awards the more the casual fans check it out, beause apparently films with a global audience of under 20m doesn't draw in the eyeballs of regular movie fans.
See you make an assumption that oh it cant be business related to ABC's bottom line it must be Disney unhappy with 3 films grossing $4b in a single fiscal year from only one of their studios mandated ABC a broadcast channel and company in it's own right risk it's rep and relationships as to strong arm the academy into creating an award category for their movies which don't require them because they are among the highest grossing films every year and constantly turn a huge profit, because well you know, you are a doofus.
And what you said isn't proof of your theory, just because ABC does something doesn't mean it is order from on high in the Walt Disney Company, you know like how despite Lucasfilm & Marvel Studios being both Disney brands doesn't mean Marvel went out of their way to help Lucasfilm with freeing up shelves for Solo merch, Marvel focused on Marvel shit, Lucasfilm had to make do, sometimes Disney dictates shit like telling ABC you WILL order another season of AOS when they didn't want to last year, but sometimes I enjoy a classic cheese & tomato pizza with nothing else, just because I enjoy that doesn't mean I am a vegetarian, just because I eat the occasional meal without meat doesn't mean I always do, you follow me here slop for brains?
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2018 2:51:34 GMT
No pretty sure higher box office numbers, the highest box offices of all cbm's with IW ousting Avengers for the highest gross and being the first cbm to break $2b means they raised the bar in terms of monetary success potential that a cbm can potentially reach.
Learn how to read and how to comprehend what the actual words actually mean you fucking simpleton.
Box office doesn't set the bar. It's ratings that set the bar. Both critics and general audience have rated The Dark Knight not only the best CBM of all time but also 1 of the best movies (CBM or non-CBM) of all time. Nothing MCU has ever made even comes close to that. Avengers, IW, and MCU have definitely lowered the bar for CBMs. No but exceeding the prior top earner reaches a new benchmark for the genre in terms of potential box office capabilities ie setting the bar for what the genre can earn, see raising the bar is a term that can be applied to multiple fields, Superman set the bar for ALL cbm's back in the day because it was the first of it's kinda so it set the limits in terms of box office, critical response, award attention, fan response, then other films came and redefined those parameters they raised the bar for all those things which have all been raised in the last decade by one film or another, it's not a temr that only applies to what you think it applies to.
And no the MCU didn't lower the fucking bar you idiot the MCU films there is no MCU film so bad it's good or so bad you just have to watch because you wont believe it unless you see it, there are cbm's that have been that, there for the MCU couldn't have lowered the bar dingbat.
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Post by dazz on Oct 28, 2018 3:35:45 GMT
Fair enough I can respect that, it's your opinion and you stated it as such, but seeing as how the majority of people like the MCU films and majority of critics like or love them, to say categorically as he does they lowered the bar is not right.
Personally I think Howard The Duck lowered the bar and I like that movie, I don't think any MCU film has been close to the worst in terms of acting, cinematography, special effects, story or any of that but that's just me, if you hate em then you hate them.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 28, 2018 6:01:18 GMT
No pretty sure higher box office numbers, the highest box offices of all cbm's with IW ousting Avengers for the highest gross and being the first cbm to break $2b means they raised the bar in terms of monetary success potential that a cbm can potentially reach.
Learn how to read and how to comprehend what the actual words actually mean you fucking simpleton.
Box office doesn't set the bar. It's ratings that set the bar. Both critics and general audience have rated The Dark Knight not only the best CBM of all time but also 1 of the best movies (CBM or non-CBM) of all time. Nothing MCU has ever made even comes close to that. Avengers, IW, and MCU have definitely lowered the bar for CBMs. Did Black Panther not come out this year? Near perfect RT score, and audiences flocked to the theaters, the biggest CBM domestic US box office, and could become the first CBM to be nominated for Best Picture, something TDK and WW couldn't do, and no disrespect towards those films, because I love those films, so Black Panther and Infinity War set the bar high for all CBMs.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 28, 2018 10:25:27 GMT
Box office doesn't set the bar. It's ratings that set the bar. Both critics and general audience have rated The Dark Knight not only the best CBM of all time but also 1 of the best movies (CBM or non-CBM) of all time. Nothing MCU has ever made even comes close to that. Avengers, IW, and MCU have definitely lowered the bar for CBMs. Did Black Panther not come out this year? Near perfect RT score, and audiences flocked to the theaters, the biggest CBM domestic US box office, and could become the first CBM to be nominated for Best Picture, something TDK and WW couldn't do, and no disrespect towards those films, because I love those films, so Black Panther and Infinity War set the bar high for all CBMs. near perfect rt score because the entire cast is black and we know critics lie about mcu movies.
also we now mcu rt scores are a joke and are not credible. I think this is the difference between mcu comic films and other comic films.
no one can question why TDK or Logan have their high rt scores. mcu scores have been questioned many times and makes no sense.
how did black panther and infinty war set the high bar? how.black panther is a dumbed down disney version of xmen first class.infinity war is a near perfect cgi movie with little story telling.
they did not set the bar high, they just lowered the bar for the comic films.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 28, 2018 10:28:28 GMT
It's amazing that MCU fans are always in denial. MCU fans are in denial that without Superman: The Movie, there would be no Avengers movies and no MCU. And MCU fans are in denial that Disney forced the Academy to create the Most Popular Movie category so Black Panther could get a non-technical Oscar nomination. How ABC Pushed Film Academy to Overhaul OscarsLOL..MCU fans are using memes from Last Jedi. well. last jedi is an mcu movie.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 28, 2018 10:30:26 GMT
There are plenty of movies that the MCU could take inspiration from.
Except we know for a fact (since MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has admitted it) that MCU didn't take inspiration from The Matrix or other movies and copied most of their movies from Superman: The Movie. So I'm 100% correct - without Superman: The Movie, there would be no Avengers movies and no MCU. Wonder Woman had Chris Pine to lead the movie. WB/DC wasn't gonna let Gal Gadot lead that movie. Is that why WB/DC put Gal Gadot and not Chris Pine on all the movie posters? Thanks for once again proving that MCU fans are really idiots. Can we all just celebrate the stellar cinematography of wonder woman?
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 28, 2018 12:49:29 GMT
Did Black Panther not come out this year? Near perfect RT score, and audiences flocked to the theaters, the biggest CBM domestic US box office, and could become the first CBM to be nominated for Best Picture, something TDK and WW couldn't do, and no disrespect towards those films, because I love those films, so Black Panther and Infinity War set the bar high for all CBMs. near perfect rt score because the entire cast is black and we know critics lie about mcu movies.
also we now mcu rt scores are a joke and are not credible. I think this is the difference between mcu comic films and other comic films.
no one can question why TDK or Logan have their high rt scores. mcu scores have been questioned many times and makes no sense.
how did black panther and infinty war set the high bar? how.black panther is a dumbed down disney version of xmen first class.infinity war is a near perfect cgi movie with little story telling.
they did not set the bar high, they just lowered the bar for the comic films.
So what were you telling others when Madea films got dreadful reviews? I need to hear this.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 28, 2018 15:06:53 GMT
Box office doesn't set the bar. It's ratings that set the bar. Both critics and general audience have rated The Dark Knight not only the best CBM of all time but also 1 of the best movies (CBM or non-CBM) of all time. Nothing MCU has ever made even comes close to that. Avengers, IW, and MCU have definitely lowered the bar for CBMs. Personally, I have no problem putting TDK on a pedestile as the crowing achievement of live action superhero movies. The key here is that DC-Fanboy has admitted that the critics and audiences dictate which movies are the best via how they are rated. ... and the rating evidence indicates that many MCU movies have come close to TDK, if not surpassed it. There’s no denying it now! Thanks for clearing that up for us, DC. You’ll make a MCU fan out of yourself, yet!
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Post by darkpast on Feb 16, 2019 22:51:58 GMT
is a charity award for Black Panther. I mean it will be an award for a film that no one thinks deserves one but it will be given to shut the MCU up.
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