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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 1:53:25 GMT
Anyone seen this? How's it compare to the original? (Bearing in mind I think the original is one of Argento's weaker efforts).
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 27, 2018 22:28:55 GMT
All I know is Thom Yorke’s score is fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 22:30:28 GMT
Anyone seen this? How's it compare to the original? (Bearing in mind I think the original is one of Argento's weaker efforts).Why would you claim this and on what basis? On account of having seen it, and thinking it's one of his weaker efforts. It's called an opinion, dude.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 17:55:06 GMT
I think the film is wishywashy. The story is weak, it's too slow and I don't find it as engaging as some of his other movies. About the only notable thing with it for me is the use of color.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 29, 2018 0:59:40 GMT
What happened to nxnwrocks?
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Post by Flynn on Oct 29, 2018 2:17:15 GMT
Anyone seen this? How's it compare to the original? (Bearing in mind I think the original is one of Argento's weaker efforts).Why would you claim this and on what basis? I can see why someone wouldn't like Suspiria. It relies a lot on atmosphere, and if you're not digging that atmosphere, then you're not going to like it.
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Post by Flynn on Oct 29, 2018 3:13:23 GMT
I can see why someone wouldn't like Suspiria. It relies a lot on atmosphere, and if you're not digging that atmosphere, then you're not going to like it. Atmosphere is the key to successful horror films, especially when there is a meager story. The substance of the horror is mirrored in the style.
What is there not to dig about the atmosphere of Argento's Suspiria and his color palette? It is also an art-house horror, like this reboot is.
I agree that atmosphere is important for a horror film, but sometimes the atmosphere of a film just doesn't appeal to us. And it's often hard to describe why. Narrative doesn't drive Suspiria. It's a very moody film, and that is perhaps its most interesting feature. So if someone is looking for narrative in Suspiria and instead gets dreamlike imagery that doesn't seem to go anywhere, then I can see why that person wouldn't like the film. Now bear in mind that I don't know why nxnwrocks doesn't think Suspiria is a stronger film. I'm just positing that it's likely its atmosphere.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 29, 2018 19:34:07 GMT
What happened to nxnwrocks? Perhaps he is going through some personal issues or something. He commented the other day how it sucks because he felt left out because no-one mentioned him in a post about saying something nice about other posters on here and that the losers get left out. I guess he has low self-worth or something. That's too bad. I don't check too many of the other boards on here so I didn't see any of that, but I always liked the guy's contribution to the horror board.
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Post by Vits on Nov 1, 2019 14:51:35 GMT
The characters in SUSPIRIA came off as bland, but I couldn't put my finger on the exact reason. After watching it, I read that Dario Argento and Daria Nicolodi wrote them as children, until they felt forced to change their ages... and it all made sense. Luciano Tovoli's cinematography and Giuseppe Bassan's production design are great, but the plot and dialogues are too basic. Argento and Goblin's The music score is meant to make the viewer feel uneasy. Well, there's a difference between intense and overwhelming. Instead of grabbing my seat, I wanted to cover my ears. 4/10 INFERNO has mostly the same problems as its predecessor. It even follows the same major story beats. Keith Emerson's music score is tolerable in comparison, but it's not good enough to create a scary atmosphere. At times, it even feels out of place. For example, there's a scene where the tempo is so fast that you'd think the character on screen should be running, but instead she's walking. 3/10 The only memorable thing about MOTHER OF TEARS: THE 3RD MOTHER is the scene where a character repeatedly says "Mommy" in such an unintentional funny way. The previous installments didn't have that distinct style just for the sake of aesthetics. They made the setting feel like a nightmarish world, so the B-movie gore felt earned. This 2nd sequel tries to combine the over-the-top deaths with a traditional visual presentation. The result is as messy as Argento's head was when he decided to film his daughter Asia Argento in a shower scene. I know it's normal for sequels to have callbacks to the original, but you can't make a trilogy where every single installment has the exact same ending. Especially if it's an anticlimactic one. 3/10 Taking a movie known for being colorful and remaking it with a muted color palette is a good way to sum up the current state of visual media. What a relief that the tone of SUSPIRIA 2018 is bleak enough that this grey and brown palette fits (I can't say that about a lot of other modern movies, TV shows, music videos, etc.). And to be fair, there are a few moments with intense primary-colored lights. One of my first thoughts was "Why not take this opportunity to tell the story with children like it was intended?" I was disappointed to see adults again, but that's because I subconciously assumed that they would follow the same blueprints of SUSPIRIA 1977's script. I'm glad that they took the oversimplistic story in a new direction and that they wanted to add more depth to it, but I wished they hadn't focused so much on the witches, especially in flashbacks. There's nothing wrong with exploring the mythology in a supernatural movie, but this felt convoluted. The movie is only truly fascinating during the dance scenes. The combination of acting, directing, editing and choreography is quite intense. 5/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 2, 2019 23:14:47 GMT
I didn't care for the original and this one was more of the same.
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Post by Zos on Nov 7, 2019 13:01:34 GMT
The original is a masterpiece so always hard to recreate, that being said it makes a decent fist of it although the "terrorist" aspect seems totally unnecessary. Tilda is as always excellent as well. To back up what another poster said about the original originally being meant to star children, When Argento couldn't do that (working laws) he placed the door handles slightly higher among other things to create a sense of the adult actresses being in a child's perspective world.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Nov 8, 2019 18:48:43 GMT
I saw it during the October challenge, and it truly and adamantly sucked. Terrible!
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Nov 9, 2019 17:26:18 GMT
...although the "terrorist" aspect seems totally unnecessary. I actually liked that they used the German Autumn as a backdrop. For me it really sets the time period and ads an extra bleakness.
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Post by Vits on Nov 13, 2020 14:03:35 GMT
Even though it didn't make its budget back, grossing $7 million is hardly "nothing." Also, it's an experimental horror movie. What exactly was he expecting?
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Post by forca84 on Nov 13, 2020 19:16:56 GMT
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Post by Vits on Nov 13, 2020 19:54:19 GMT
Thanks, but I already wrote that.
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Post by DarkManX on Nov 13, 2020 20:20:08 GMT
I didn't like it. I thought it was overlong, slow, boring, and convoluted.
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Post by forca84 on Nov 13, 2020 20:53:32 GMT
Thanks, but I already wrote that. Just stating my opinion of the film. It's really not necessary to say you posted something first. It comes off patronizing.
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Post by Vits on Nov 13, 2020 21:34:13 GMT
Just stating my opinion of the film. It's really not necessary to say you posted something first. It comes off patronizing. Oh, by all means, that's not my intention. It's just that you're broadcasting news that are already available on the same thread.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 13, 2020 21:48:55 GMT
Compared to the original, it feels like they took the criticisms of it being style-over-substance with little plot and went the exact opposite direction. The result is a convoluted, 2 and a half hour long art film packed to the brim with political symbolism and references...like the Lufthansa hijacking...in a movie about witches running a dance school...
Giallo aspects are thrown out the window in favor of modern, torture porn-y deaths such as a girl being slowly contorted to death (and we get to see the girl urinate herself in her suffering for good measure! ooh wee!). The colorful cinematography has been replaced with dull, muted colors. I love Radiohead, but whatever Yorke did to compete with Goblin's score, I can't remember it.
So if you thought the original wasn't a long, unpleasant, pretentious enough experience, Suspiria '18 has you covered. Also, Tilda Swinton pulls an Eddie Murphy and plays three different roles, one genderbent in a fat suit. It's not distracting at all.
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