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Post by hi224 on Mar 30, 2017 3:13:37 GMT
Also the fact gloves were tried on under latex as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 4:24:00 GMT
In OJ: Made in America, one of the jurors admitted she only vote not guilty as revenge for Rodney King and said that 90% of the jurors voted for the same reason. She also said she didn't care Nicole was beaten and had no respect for a woman that "lets herself be beaten up". Anyway, only a complete idiot believes he didn't do it, specially after If I Did It. But I guess if even 9/11 has imbeciles looking for attention and thinking of themselves smarter than everyone saying "The towers didn't fall/Bin Laden is innocent/Israel is the responsible", etc, it's inevitable people would doubt that too. Exactly! It's amazing that even though the jurors ADMITTED IT, I had 2 different posters saying I was a "miserable asshole" and "a piece of shit" for repeating what the jurors said themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them spew more pejoratives at me since apparently pointing the FACTS out makes me and possibly you or mulva worse than a wife beating murderous low life like OJ. In response to a question asking if OJ did it you wrote "Of course he did. Only amazingly dirt stupid morons would think otherwise" and abused someone by calling them a bigot. On another thread you wrote "What a shitty list" in relation to someone posting their list of favorite films, but yeah, you totally have the right to judge others on their attitude since you clearly are an example of sweetness and courtesy. You're funny
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Post by pennypacker on Mar 30, 2017 4:32:59 GMT
Yes.
The real question is: did Sid kill Nancy?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 4:46:23 GMT
I'm thinking about moving this to the politics board, since this thread is getting into racial politics. Anyone object?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 5:09:32 GMT
Exactly! It's amazing that even though the jurors ADMITTED IT, I had 2 different posters saying I was a "miserable asshole" and "a piece of shit" for repeating what the jurors said themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them spew more pejoratives at me since apparently pointing the FACTS out makes me and possibly you or mulva worse than a wife beating murderous low life like OJ. While revenge for Rodney King had something to do with it, it was mainly the incompetence of the prosecution. They made constant error after error. Denouncing Mark Fuhrman. OJ trying on the gloves. The destruction of the DNA guy's credibility. The list goes on and on. They were unable to convince the jury that O.J. was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the defense had put too much doubt into their minds. About the gloves, they were his gloves, you can see him wearing them here. It's been said that Cochrane tore the lining in the gloves so they would be hard to put on. They did look like they fit to me though
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Post by poelzig on Mar 30, 2017 5:17:15 GMT
Exactly! It's amazing that even though the jurors ADMITTED IT, I had 2 different posters saying I was a "miserable asshole" and "a piece of shit" for repeating what the jurors said themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them spew more pejoratives at me since apparently pointing the FACTS out makes me and possibly you or mulva worse than a wife beating murderous low life like OJ. In response to a question asking if OJ did it you wrote "Of course he did. Only amazingly dirt stupid morons would think otherwise" and abused someone by calling them a bigot. On another thread you wrote "What a shitty list" in relation to someone posting their list of favorite films, but yeah, you totally have the right to judge others on their attitude since you clearly are an example of sweetness and courtesy. You're funny You seem determined to get into an argument with me. You NEVER had a problem with me until I disagreed with your theory that "drug gangs" killed Nicole and Ron. Quite the opposite in fact. We exchanged pleasant posts numerous time as well as likes. I'm a big Takeshi Kitano fan and thought your avatar was cool. Apparently you took it personally when I disagreed with you. Numerous people have said in this thread only an idiot would think OJ was innocent. Are you following them around and tossing insults at them as well?
I have NEVER called you out personally as you continue to do to me. It's particularly disgusting and hypocritical that you insult me while having MODERATOR prominently displayed under your avatar. If you want to start petty arguments then stop being a moderator. If you want to moderate then stop acting like a petulant child. Having MODERATOR displayed is a veiled threat and you know it. You may have access to everyone's personal info. If you are mad because I thought your "drug gang" theory was naïve who knows what you are capable of doing.
The person I called a bigot regularly says all Americans are idiots. She has also insulted vegans, vegetarians, liberals, conservatives and numerous other groups. You don't have a problem with her. The guy that called me a piece of shit and a miserable asshole repeatedly says gay people are mentally ill. Again you not only don't have a problem with him, you said you agree with him. He was angry because I said Morpheus was a lame character and a solo movie about him was a shitty idea. That's my opinion. The OJ jurors admitted they made their decision based on race. Sorry but to me that makes them bigots. Again that's my opinion.
I have tried numerous times to just let this drop but you don't want to do it. I can be sarcastic but a lot of people can. I have no clue why you chose to single me out but if you want to wage some kind of silly war of words then drop your MODERATOR shield and we can insult the hell out of each other. I have no problem with rolling around in the dirt online or in real life. Especially with a bully masquerading as a nice guy.
Remember YOU'RE the one that keeps trying to escalate this thing. I was willing to write you off as being a silly kid. Who else would want to start an argument over a guy like OJ who at best beat the shit out of numerous women and at worst murdered two people? Is any of this sinking in to you MODERATOR?
So we can drop this and try and be civil or we can act like silly kids. It's your call MODERATOR. Also anyone can feel free to insult my taste in movies or TV shows or whatever. I might try and change their mind but I'm not going to cry about it like a little bitch and follow them around trying to "fight". That would be ridiculous, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 5:34:30 GMT
The prosecutor claimed the killer had gloves on OVER latex ones. When Simpson tried them both on, they didnt fit. In that photo where he is holding a mic, he aint wearing both. P.S. If I wanted to frame someone for murder, I'd put on latex gloves and wear the gloves everyone knew was theirs. Since both didnt' fit on OJ that fits the possibility that a person with smaller hands (like a South American?) was wearing them. All this is irrelevant because in a court of law all the defense has to do is raise the level of doubt, and there's enough doubt in this case to be raised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 5:41:01 GMT
In response to a question asking if OJ did it you wrote "Of course he did. Only amazingly dirt stupid morons would think otherwise" and abused someone by calling them a bigot. On another thread you wrote "What a shitty list" in relation to someone posting their list of favorite films, but yeah, you totally have the right to judge others on their attitude since you clearly are an example of sweetness and courtesy. You're funny You seem determined to get into an argument with me. You NEVER had a problem with me until I disagreed with your theory that "drug gangs" killed Nicole and Ron. Quite the opposite in fact. We exchanged pleasant posts numerous time as well as likes. I'm a big Takeshi Kitano fan and thought your avatar was cool. Apparently you took it personally when I disagreed with you. Numerous people have said in this thread only an idiot would think OJ was innocent. Are you following them around and tossing insults at them as well?
I have NEVER called you out personally as you continue to do to me. It's particularly disgusting and hypocritical that you insult me while having MODERATOR prominently displayed under your avatar. If you want to start petty arguments then stop being a moderator. If you want to moderate then stop acting like a petulant child. Having MODERATOR displayed is a veiled threat and you know it. You may have access to everyone's personal info. If you are mad because I thought your "drug gang" theory was naïve who knows what you are capable of doing.
The person I called a bigot regularly says all Americans are idiots. She has also insulted vegans, vegetarians, liberals, conservatives and numerous other groups. You don't have a problem with her. The guy that called me a piece of shit and a miserable asshole repeatedly says gay people are mentally ill. Again you not only don't have a problem with him, you said you agree with him. He was angry because I said Morpheus was a lame character and a solo movie about him was a shitty idea. That's my opinion. The OJ jurors admitted they made their decision based on race. Sorry but to me that makes them bigots. Again that's my opinion.
I have tried numerous times to just let this drop but you don't want to do it. I can be sarcastic but a lot of people can. I have no clue why you chose to single me out but if you want to wage some kind of silly war of words then drop your MODERATOR shield and we can insult the hell out of each other. I have no problem with rolling around in the dirt online or in real life. Especially with a bully masquerading as a nice guy.
Remember YOU'RE the one that keeps trying to escalate this thing. I was willing to write you off as being a silly kid. Who else would want to start an argument over a guy like OJ who at best beat the shit out of numerous women and at worst murdered two people? Is any of this sinking in to you MODERATOR?
So we can drop this and try and be civil or we can act like silly kids. It's your call MODERATOR. Also anyone can feel free to insult my taste in movies or TV shows or whatever. I might try and change their mind but I'm not going to cry about it like a little bitch and follow them around trying to "fight". That would be ridiculous, right?
Your behavior is rude and abusive. I have a problem with rude and abusive users sure. If you consider the behavior of other users against the rules, report their post, dont be rude and abusive to them. I've made no statement about (I cant remember their name) the user you referred to when yo claim out of the blue that I "don't have a problem with her." If true, please link us to the post where I wrote that (you cant so dont lie). As for this thread I merely posted what I thought a possible alternate theory which you immediately derided as "nonsense". I then noticed previous to that, you wrote "Of course he did. Only amazingly dirt stupid morons would think otherwise". So can you explain why you apparently think I started some argument with you, when you insulted two people, one being a moderator, in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 5:50:21 GMT
Yes. The real question is: did Sid kill Nancy? Johnny Rotten did it . The latex microphone fit in his hands.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2017 5:55:55 GMT
So can you explain why you apparently think I started some argument with you, when you insulted two people, one being a moderator, in the first place? What is the significance of one of them being a moderator?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 6:07:50 GMT
After he answers my question, sure.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 30, 2017 6:49:59 GMT
Exactly! It's amazing that even though the jurors ADMITTED IT, I had 2 different posters saying I was a "miserable asshole" and "a piece of shit" for repeating what the jurors said themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them spew more pejoratives at me since apparently pointing the FACTS out makes me and possibly you or mulva worse than a wife beating murderous low life like OJ. While revenge for Rodney King had something to do with it, it was mainly the incompetence of the prosecution. They made constant error after error. Denouncing Mark Fuhrman. OJ trying on the gloves. The destruction of the DNA guy's credibility. The list goes on and on. They were unable to convince the jury that O.J. was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the defense had put too much doubt into their minds. It didn't "had something to do with it". It was the main or sole reason for nearly the entire jury, according to one of their own members. A better prosecution might have reached a deadlock rather than outright innocence, but it was impossible to have him found guilty regardless of what the prosecution did.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 30, 2017 6:53:14 GMT
You seem determined to get into an argument with me. You NEVER had a problem with me until I disagreed with your theory that "drug gangs" killed Nicole and Ron. Quite the opposite in fact. We exchanged pleasant posts numerous time as well as likes. I'm a big Takeshi Kitano fan and thought your avatar was cool. Apparently you took it personally when I disagreed with you. Numerous people have said in this thread only an idiot would think OJ was innocent. Are you following them around and tossing insults at them as well?
I have NEVER called you out personally as you continue to do to me. It's particularly disgusting and hypocritical that you insult me while having MODERATOR prominently displayed under your avatar. If you want to start petty arguments then stop being a moderator. If you want to moderate then stop acting like a petulant child. Having MODERATOR displayed is a veiled threat and you know it. You may have access to everyone's personal info. If you are mad because I thought your "drug gang" theory was naïve who knows what you are capable of doing.
The person I called a bigot regularly says all Americans are idiots. She has also insulted vegans, vegetarians, liberals, conservatives and numerous other groups. You don't have a problem with her. The guy that called me a piece of shit and a miserable asshole repeatedly says gay people are mentally ill. Again you not only don't have a problem with him, you said you agree with him. He was angry because I said Morpheus was a lame character and a solo movie about him was a shitty idea. That's my opinion. The OJ jurors admitted they made their decision based on race. Sorry but to me that makes them bigots. Again that's my opinion.
I have tried numerous times to just let this drop but you don't want to do it. I can be sarcastic but a lot of people can. I have no clue why you chose to single me out but if you want to wage some kind of silly war of words then drop your MODERATOR shield and we can insult the hell out of each other. I have no problem with rolling around in the dirt online or in real life. Especially with a bully masquerading as a nice guy.
Remember YOU'RE the one that keeps trying to escalate this thing. I was willing to write you off as being a silly kid. Who else would want to start an argument over a guy like OJ who at best beat the shit out of numerous women and at worst murdered two people? Is any of this sinking in to you MODERATOR?
So we can drop this and try and be civil or we can act like silly kids. It's your call MODERATOR. Also anyone can feel free to insult my taste in movies or TV shows or whatever. I might try and change their mind but I'm not going to cry about it like a little bitch and follow them around trying to "fight". That would be ridiculous, right?
Your behavior is rude and abusive. I have a problem with rude and abusive users sure. If you consider the behavior of other users against the rules, report their post, dont be rude and abusive to them. I've made no statement about (I cant remember their name) the user you referred to when yo claim out of the blue that I "don't have a problem with her." If true, please link us to the post where I wrote that (you cant so dont lie). As for this thread I merely posted what I thought a possible alternate theory which you immediately derided as "nonsense". I then noticed previous to that, you wrote "Of course he did. Only amazingly dirt stupid morons would think otherwise". So can you explain why you apparently think I started some argument with you, when you insulted two people, one being a moderator, in the first place? You want me to provide a link to a post of you NOT having a problem with comments someone made? You provide a link to you admonishing that poster otherwise I stand by what I said. I never claimed you said you agreed with her anti (fill in the blank) comments. Just that you never called her out like you continue to do me. I have no problem with someone calling me out as long as they don't mind getting it right back. You've made it clear you DO have a problem with it.
Yes I did say your "drug gang" theory was nonsense. A mysterious "drug gang" who now apparently is composed of small handed South Americans since according to you South Americans have small hands, right? I'll be happy to reply to your post again and address why I think it's silly. In fact YOU even said you didn't necessarily believe the theory but yet here we are days later arguing because I hurt your feelings. Had I known they were so fragile I wouldn't have initiated a debate with you.
I also stand by my OPINION that only morons can ignore overwhelming DNA evidence, numerous accounts from his own friends and others that OJ confessed to them he did it, the fact he changed his alibi several times, the fact no one had a motive other than him, the fact Nicole said if she was ever murdered OJ would be the one who did it and most disgustingly the fact he wrote a book about how he would have killed them "IF" he did it. If the moron cap fits then wear it.
I didn't insult 2 people I insulted hypothetical people who ignored the plethora of evidence I just listed and then I teased (in my opinion) you about believing some theory about a non existent small handed drug gang. I didn't know you would get so angry about it. Once you continued in numerous posts here and in other threads to insult me that's when I decided you wanted to argue with me.
I don't want to get anyone banned so why would I go to John about a poster when I can just address them myself? Better yet if that's how you feel why are you attacking me in numerous posts? More of your hypocrisy?
Also since you obviously don't want to be civil to me and let this drop, why are you bringing up that you're a MODERATOR? You have it prominently displayed so it's not like anyone doesn't know and why does that matter anyway? Just because you have a title no one is allowed to question you? Is that why you asked for the position in the first place? At least your veiled threat is out in the open now.
We can do this petty bickering as long as you want. I will still think OJ is guilty and that the idea of a mysterious small handed drug gang from the land of small handed people aka South America is laughable. That's why I asked how you could believe it. At that time I thought you were reasonably logical. My bad.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 30, 2017 6:56:16 GMT
So can you explain why you apparently think I started some argument with you, when you insulted two people, one being a moderator, in the first place? What is the significance of one of them being a moderator? Unfortunately, I think it's obvious now what the significance is at least to Takeshi. He can't claim I didn't try to avoid this because I did it in an open forum. What really sucks is I keep having to pause Hap and Leonard to reply to his posts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 13:01:21 GMT
While revenge for Rodney King had something to do with it, it was mainly the incompetence of the prosecution. They made constant error after error. Denouncing Mark Fuhrman. OJ trying on the gloves. The destruction of the DNA guy's credibility. The list goes on and on. They were unable to convince the jury that O.J. was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the defense had put too much doubt into their minds. It didn't "had something to do with it". It was the main or sole reason for nearly the entire jury, according to one of their own members. A better prosecution might have reached a deadlock rather than outright innocence, but it was impossible to have him found guilty regardless of what the prosecution did. That juror is a racist who's also speaking for all the other jurors. And even if she did feel that way, if the prosecution did their job correctly she wouldn't have gotten a man who BRUTALLY MURDERED two people off the hook just to "get revenge". That's completely irrational, finding just 1 person with the state of mind that says "I don't care if OJ did them, I'm going to say he's not guilty because I like him and to get back at the system" is outrageous, much less 12. These jurors may not have been intelligent, but they were capable of basic rational thought- the amount of screening these people went through to make sure of that was unheard of in a jury selection. I watched that documentary. Another juror contradicts her right after- this one claims it was the prosecution's fault and all the jurors doubted them, which is TRUE. Nearly everyone involved with the case agrees it was mostly the prosecution's fault, even people on their side. Only Marcia Clark and Christopher Darden claim it was all the jury's fault. The truth is they were in over their heads. For more info, I suggest you read Vincent Bugliosi's Outrage: The Five Reasons O.J. Got Away or even watch the documentary version of it here. (Vincent Bugliosi was one of the most renowned prosecutors in America, known for prosecuting Charles Manson, he won 105 out of 106 cases- and never lost any of his 21 murder cases). He explains exactly why the prosecution was incompetent, and how a competent one would've gotten Simpson convicted- regardless of the jury's stupidity/racism.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 13:03:32 GMT
While revenge for Rodney King had something to do with it, it was mainly the incompetence of the prosecution. They made constant error after error. Denouncing Mark Fuhrman. OJ trying on the gloves. The destruction of the DNA guy's credibility. The list goes on and on. They were unable to convince the jury that O.J. was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the defense had put too much doubt into their minds. About the gloves, they were his gloves, you can see him wearing them here. It's been said that Cochrane tore the lining in the gloves so they would be hard to put on. They did look like they fit to me though There are many reasons why people said the gloves didn't fit: he was wearing latex, blood was all over it and changed the texture, they were repeatedly frozen and unfrozen, Simpson's agent at the time claims he told OJ to stop taking his arthritis medication for a few weeks so that his hands would become inflamed. It was just a stupid move where so many things could go wrong, and the prosecution made a crucial error.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 30, 2017 13:21:05 GMT
Is this different from any other country? I'm not saying it's not stupid, I just don't think it's simply an American thing. Yes, it's different. So the entire world except for the United States has professionals/trained jurors? do you hear yourself? You are so full of shit and anti-American nonsense.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 30, 2017 13:24:49 GMT
In OJ: Made in America, one of the jurors admitted she only vote not guilty as revenge for Rodney King and said that 90% of the jurors voted for the same reason. She also said she didn't care Nicole was beaten and had no respect for a woman that "lets herself be beaten up". Anyway, only a complete idiot believes he didn't do it, specially after If I Did It. But I guess if even 9/11 has imbeciles looking for attention and thinking of themselves smarter than everyone saying "The towers didn't fall/Bin Laden is innocent/Israel is the responsible", etc, it's inevitable people would doubt that too. Exactly! It's amazing that even though the jurors ADMITTED IT, I had 2 different posters saying I was a "miserable asshole" and "a piece of shit" for repeating what the jurors said themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them spew more pejoratives at me since apparently pointing the FACTS out makes me and possibly you or mulva worse than a wife beating murderous low life like OJ. You pompous thickheaded horse's ass, that is not why I said what I said to you. It's because of the way you talk to people. You are a dick. You insult people almost constantly and do it with a smile on your face. And when called out on it you play the victim or pretend to be confused as to why people are talking to you the way that they do.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 30, 2017 13:28:45 GMT
So can you explain why you apparently think I started some argument with you, when you insulted two people, one being a moderator, in the first place? What is the significance of one of them being a moderator? That is what you're taking away from this?! Takeshi-K is right. poelzig is a jackass. The guy goes after people for no reason. Why is something not being done about him?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 14:05:26 GMT
I read a really good alternate theory. Nicole and her friend Ron were involved in some shady drug dealing situation. Ron worked as a busboy at the restaurant Nicole worked at (as a hostess). Ron got her into the drug scene to make some money but as is often the case, they smoked up the profits instead of selling it and giving a cut back to their supplier. The suppliers unfortunately for the unwitting Nicole were a Colombian cartel. This is why the murder scene resembled a Columbian necktie interrogation scene gone wrong more than a jealous husband crime of passion. Crime of passions usually start and end quickly in a flurry of emotion. Nicole and Ron were tortured for hours for information in a cold professional manner. Eventually the interrogators (yes plural not one person) murdered them out of frustration in a way South American cartels do it. The murder scene had multiple offenders not just one. OJ comes home. Sees the devastation, thinks he is next on their hitlist, freaks out and flees. Makes no sense for a jealous husband to flee from a scene of a crime which is in his own home. You have days to clean up the mess and remove the grisly remains. A third employee of the same restaurant was murdered in what looked like a professional hit around the same time. Two other employees have gone missing and another had their car set on fire. Probably not a coincidence. This. OJ didn't kill either of them. It was two thugs. I saw all of this as it happened in a dream. It was very vivid and real. Although at the time of the dream I didn't know who these people were.
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