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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 2:10:44 GMT
All the lies he told during the civil trail shows his guilt
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 6, 2017 6:13:37 GMT
All the lies he told during the civil trail shows his guilt It could mean an indication of guilt, but it doesn't necessarily pertain to absolute guilt. He was after all acquitted by a supposedly fair criminal trail by jury. This whole case was one big fiasco, with corrupt and atrocious attitudes and behaviors on pretty much all fronts. He didn't admit to it, and therefore the burden on proof is on the flawed judicial process to decide. The farce is, he wasn't found criminally liable for the murders, but civilly liable.  He will be up for parole later on this year for his armed robbery or whatever it was conviction. It was a hefty sentence he was given here though, considering the crime. He has served about 9. |
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Post by Sandman on May 6, 2017 16:32:59 GMT
Definitely. The only reason he got off, is because of the american jury system, where anyone can be a jury member, even how stupid or uneducated they are. And it's not just the jury system in the US that is flawed. At the time the jurors were picked a reporter said as soon as they were selected Simpson was a free man. Here was their makeup. 2 whites 1 Hispanic 9 blacks With those jurors they could have had Simpson on tape killing his wife and Ron and they would have still found him not guilty. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 19:51:12 GMT
All the lies he told during the civil trail shows his guilt It could mean an indication of guilt, but it doesn't necessarily pertain to absolute guilt. He was after all acquitted by a supposedly fair criminal trail by jury. This whole case was one big fiasco, with corrupt and atrocious attitudes and behaviors on pretty much all fronts. He didn't admit to it, and therefore the burden on proof is on the flawed judicial process to decide. The farce is, he wasn't found criminally liable for the murders, but civilly liable. He will be up for parole later on this year for his armed robbery or whatever it was conviction. It was a hefty sentence he was given here though, considering the crime. He has served about 9. If he's going to lie about the Bruno Magli shoes when there are photos of him wearing them then he's denying the obvious. The jury acquitted him because they didn't want to believe he was guilty and they were impressed by his celebrity. They also didn't like Nicole or her sisters so they were clearly biased. Also the time he's serving now isn't that hefty considering one of the charges was kidnapping and that carries a long sentence |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 7, 2017 3:09:05 GMT
If he's going to lie about the Bruno Magli shoes when there are photos of him wearing them then he's denying the obvious. The jury acquitted him because they didn't want to believe he was guilty and they were impressed by his celebrity. They also didn't like Nicole or her sisters so they were clearly biased. Also the time he's serving now isn't that hefty considering one of the charges was kidnapping and that carries a long sentence The bias point you have brought up, is pretty much hitting the nail on the head Madame Buns. If OJ wasn't a celebrity and he was just an Average Joe accused of murdering his ex and her lover in a similar event and manner, I doubt it would have been as much as a charade or circus as it ended up being. It may have had the opposite outcome many anticipated, expected or felt was deserving.
I think he was given over 30yrs for the other offenses that finally saw him incarcerated. It has been pointed out that this may have been perceived as hefty due to murder trial outcome backlash, circumstances, and what is perceived as kidnapping. The motives of all concerned, even those he supposedly kidnapped appear dubious. OJ guilty
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 3:19:36 GMT
If he's going to lie about the Bruno Magli shoes when there are photos of him wearing them then he's denying the obvious. The jury acquitted him because they didn't want to believe he was guilty and they were impressed by his celebrity. They also didn't like Nicole or her sisters so they were clearly biased. Also the time he's serving now isn't that hefty considering one of the charges was kidnapping and that carries a long sentence The bias point you have brought up, is pretty much hitting the nail on the head Madame Buns. If OJ wasn't a celebrity and he was just an Average Joe accused of murdering his ex and her lover in a similar event and manner, I doubt it would have been as much as a charade or circus as it ended up being. It may have had the opposite outcome many anticipated, expected or felt was deserving.
I think he was given over 30yrs for the other offenses that finally saw him incarcerated. It has been pointed out that this may have been perceived as hefty due to murder trial outcome backlash, circumstances, and what is perceived as kidnapping. The motives of all concerned, even those he supposedly kidnapped appear dubious. OJ guilty
That's true that people think he was given a harsher sentence because of who he is |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 7, 2017 3:46:08 GMT
The bias point you have brought up, is pretty much hitting the nail on the head Madame Buns. If OJ wasn't a celebrity and he was just an Average Joe accused of murdering his ex and her lover in a similar event and manner, I doubt it would have been as much as a charade or circus as it ended up being. It may have had the opposite outcome many anticipated, expected or felt was deserving.
I think he was given over 30yrs for the other offenses that finally saw him incarcerated. It has been pointed out that this may have been perceived as hefty due to murder trial outcome backlash, circumstances, and what is perceived as kidnapping. The motives of all concerned, even those he supposedly kidnapped appear dubious. OJ guilty
That's true that people think he was given a harsher sentence because of who he is I'd say that many still wanted to see him punished for a serious crime they felt he got away with in the first place. His later arrest and the time elapsed playing a big factor, appeared like a given opportunity to make him pay for something he was originally acquitted of, but under a different set of circumstances. That article I linked, was quoted as saying one juror was let go due to prejudiced feelings over the previous trial, and the jury were asked to be objective about the current situation and not factor in the murder accusations. Yeah right! It went the other way this time and all due to bias again.
The jury system is not that effective, in terms of fairness and justice. Another jury could have had a totally different outcome.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 3:50:58 GMT
That's true that people think he was given a harsher sentence because of who he is I'd say that many still wanted to see him punished for a serious crime they felt he got away with in the first place. His later arrest and the time elapsed playing a big factor, appeared like a given opportunity to make him pay for something he was originally acquitted of, but under a different set of circumstances. That article I linked, was quoted as saying one juror was let go due to prejudiced feelings over the previous trial, and the jury were asked to be objective about the current situation and not factor in the murder accusations. Yeah right! It went the other way this time and all due to bias again.
The jury system is not that effective, in terms of fairness and justice. Another jury could have had a totally different outcome.
That's true, they felt he got away with murder and they wanted him to pay. I feel the jury in the civil trial got it right and Simpson was no match for Petrocelli |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 7, 2017 4:51:28 GMT
That's true, they felt he got away with murder and they wanted him to pay. I feel the jury in the civil trial got it right and Simpson was no match for Petrocelli I would say considering the circumstances, he would have gotten off lightly if he gets his parole after serving 9yrs for the kidnapping\armed robbery charge. I don't know what to feel about the murder charge and whether or not he was guilty, so I attempt to feel indifferent about this. It does seem odd that after beating this thing hanging over him, he ended up getting caught up in this other fracas, which did eventually see him locked up. I'd say he was no match for himself and was being incredibly stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 4:57:54 GMT
That's true, they felt he got away with murder and they wanted him to pay. I feel the jury in the civil trial got it right and Simpson was no match for Petrocelli I would say considering the circumstances, he would have gotten off lightly if he gets his parole after serving 9yrs for the kidnapping\armed robbery charge. I don't know what to feel about the murder charge and whether or not he was guilty, so I attempt to feel indifferent about this. It does seem odd that after beating this thing hanging over him, he ended up getting caught up in this other fracas, which did eventually see him locked up. I'd say he was no match for himself and was being incredibly stupid. Simpson was always a thug and after he became famous he was spoiled, so naturally he's going to do stupid things. Everyone has their own opinions about his guilt but I feel that given his obsession with Nicole, his violent temper, his cocaine use and the blood evidence that he's definitely guilty |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 7, 2017 5:32:48 GMT
Simpson was always a thug and after he became famous he was spoiled, so naturally he's going to do stupid things. Everyone has their own opinions about his guilt but I feel that given his obsession with Nicole, his violent temper, his cocaine use and the blood evidence that he's definitely guilty Just say it like it is, or as you see it Madame Buns.  Yes, his stupidity would have been born out of his spoiled lifestyle. And to think, I had a crush on him in the late 70's, when I was a little boy when I first saw him in The Cassandra Crossing-76'. A shining example of the misuse of fame and privilege, when arrogance and self-entitlements take a hold of one's ego. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 5:34:17 GMT
Simpson was always a thug and after he became famous he was spoiled, so naturally he's going to do stupid things. Everyone has their own opinions about his guilt but I feel that given his obsession with Nicole, his violent temper, his cocaine use and the blood evidence that he's definitely guilty Just say it like it is, or as you see it Madame Buns. Yes, his stupidity would have been born out of his spoiled lifestyle. And to think, I had a crush on him in the late 70's, when I was a little boy when I first saw him in The Cassandra Crossing-76'. A shining example of the misuse of fame and privilege, when arrogance and self-entitlements take a hold of one's ego. So cute  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 7, 2017 5:46:23 GMT
Just say it like it is, or as you see it Madame Buns. Yes, his stupidity would have been born out of his spoiled lifestyle. And to think, I had a crush on him in the late 70's, when I was a little boy when I first saw him in The Cassandra Crossing-76'. A shining example of the misuse of fame and privilege, when arrogance and self-entitlements take a hold of one's ego. So cute He was cute back then, and I think he was one of the good guys and I didn't want to see him get hurt. That movie was my first exposure to Sophia Loren. I was about 9 or 10 and I thought she was the most stunning woman I had ever seen. I was transfixed by the whole movie, as cheesy as it appears today. I recall it was a surprise late one afternoon when my older sister and I were just home from school on an early weekday, and Dad said we were all going into town for a meal and a movie. We all loved it. |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on May 7, 2017 22:47:19 GMT
I don't know for certain obviously, but I don't believe that he did it. Neither do I. As someone else pointed out, the prosecution came up lame. There are high racial tensions like never before now. Race was not even mentioned in the case. So where's the other suspects? OJ Simpson vowed he would look for and find the true killers if he was found innocent. He never did. He never devoted one second of his time to it. That should tell you something... This isn't like the Atlanta Olympics bombing case where the FBI initially targeted the wrong guy. But a more solid, extensive effort produced different results and caught the real guilty party. No more credible suspects have been produced. |
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Post by Panther on May 7, 2017 23:11:01 GMT
I still wonder if there was another reason he borrowed that money from Kato other than what he told him? Also, is it possible he wasn't planning on really going to McDonald's but Kato invited himself along?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 23:12:55 GMT
I have to go with yes along with Casey Anthony. But one I'm not sure of is Amanda Knox. Amanda Knox is foolish but it's likely that the Italians muffed it up. Italians screwed it up big time. The conviction was a joke. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 23:20:37 GMT
Amanda Knox is foolish but it's likely that the Italians muffed it up. Italians screwed it up big time. The conviction was a joke. Sure it was. That prosecutor was after fame and making himself front page news all the way. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 23:27:29 GMT
Neither do I. As someone else pointed out, the prosecution came up lame. There are high racial tensions like never before now. Race was not even mentioned in the case. So where's the other suspects? OJ Simpson vowed he would look for and find the true killers if he was found innocent. He never did. He never devoted one second of his time to it. That should tell you something... This isn't like the Atlanta Olympics bombing case where the FBI initially targeted the wrong guy. But a more solid, extensive effort produced different results and caught the real guilty party. No more credible suspects have been produced. He knows who did it, or suspects them. He knows about it all. He wasn't about to shed light to the public on any of it because his actions brought on the mob killings of Nicole and Ron and I know that exposing them would mean him and his kids would meet the same fate. It's that ominous. Do you even know how violent and psycho the drug trade is? Wars are begun over drugs. There were two of them. But as to their names? You're asking me? The metaphysical planes when one is even able to use them in same-time instances is rare even for those of us not attempting to remote view while actually doing it. But these instances don't give enough power or opportunity to pick pockets and look at IDs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 0:27:07 GMT
So where's the other suspects? OJ Simpson vowed he would look for and find the true killers if he was found innocent. He never did. He never devoted one second of his time to it. That should tell you something... This isn't like the Atlanta Olympics bombing case where the FBI initially targeted the wrong guy. But a more solid, extensive effort produced different results and caught the real guilty party. No more credible suspects have been produced. He knows who did it, or suspects them. He knows about it all. He wasn't about to shed light to the public on any of it because his actions brought on the mob killings of Nicole and Ron and I know that exposing them would mean him and his kids would meet the same fate. It's that ominous. Do you even know how violent and psycho the drug trade is? Wars are begun over drugs. There were two of them. But as to their names? You're asking me? The metaphysical planes when one is even able to use them in same-time instances is rare even for those of us not attempting to remote view while actually doing it. But these instances don't give enough power or opportunity to pick pockets and look at IDs. Drug trade? Absolutely no evidence of this. Were the mob guys wearing Bruno Magli shoes? |
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on May 8, 2017 0:33:51 GMT
So where's the other suspects? OJ Simpson vowed he would look for and find the true killers if he was found innocent. He never did. He never devoted one second of his time to it. That should tell you something... This isn't like the Atlanta Olympics bombing case where the FBI initially targeted the wrong guy. But a more solid, extensive effort produced different results and caught the real guilty party. No more credible suspects have been produced. He knows who did it, or suspects them. He knows about it all. He wasn't about to shed light to the public on any of it because his actions brought on the mob killings of Nicole and Ron and I know that exposing them would mean him and his kids would meet the same fate. It's that ominous. Do you even know how violent and psycho the drug trade is? Wars are begun over drugs. There were two of them. But as to their names? You're asking me? The metaphysical planes when one is even able to use them in same-time instances is rare even for those of us not attempting to remote view while actually doing it. But these instances don't give enough power or opportunity to pick pockets and look at IDs. So there's no evidence of there being other suspects at the scene of the crime. But the mob did it? You really think that the mob could take out Simpson and his family (the most high profile celebrities at the time) and that could be hidden? The mob's been tied to murders with far less profile than that! This mob theory has never been proven and never established with any legitimacy or evidence... Tin foil hat |
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