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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 25, 2019 17:19:33 GMT
This isn't the position to take. One day another CBM will win, a non MCU movie, maybe even a DC movie. And on that day I want everyone to be happy about it without resorting to rationalizations as to why it was nominated even though it wasn't a good movie.
This is a good day for ALL of us, because it shows that the Academy is finally willing to include the big pop culture type movies we love. After all who can argue that Superman the Movie, The Dark Knight, and maybe even The Avengers could have also been nominated in their respective years?
Did Disney buy this nomination? There's some hints that might have been the case. But even if that were the case that doesn't change the fact that it turns into a good thing for those us who want to see this type of movie represented in the Oscars. Its an inroad.
It's a tually a bad day. Becuse the Academy sent a message to all CBM studios that the only way you can get noninated for Best Picture is if you shamelessly and execusively use the race. Card throughout the movie. Black Panther's wins for Costumes, Production Design, and Score are well deserved. Also, Spider-Verse won Best Animated Feature. True comic book fans should be happy about the Oscar's results.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 25, 2019 17:23:42 GMT
This isn't the position to take. One day another CBM will win, a non MCU movie, maybe even a DC movie. And on that day I want everyone to be happy about it without resorting to rationalizations as to why it was nominated even though it wasn't a good movie.
This is a good day for ALL of us, because it shows that the Academy is finally willing to include the big pop culture type movies we love. After all who can argue that Superman the Movie, The Dark Knight, and maybe even The Avengers could have also been nominated in their respective years?
Did Disney buy this nomination? There's some hints that might have been the case. But even if that were the case that doesn't change the fact that it turns into a good thing for those us who want to see this type of movie represented in the Oscars. Its an inroad.
It's a tually a bad day. Becuse the Academy sent a message to all CBM studios that the only way you can get noninated for Best Picture is if you shamelessly and execusively use the race. Card throughout the movie. This is a racist viewpoint, believe it or not.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 25, 2019 17:30:15 GMT
It's a tually a bad day. Becuse the Academy sent a message to all CBM studios that the only way you can get noninated for Best Picture is if you shamelessly and execusively use the race. Card throughout the movie. This is a racist viewpoint, believe it or not. No it's not. It's simply acknowleding the truth that Black Panther shamelessly and excsssively uses the race card throughout the entire movie. The entire plot of Black Panthwr is "Angry black man wants to strikw back at his white oppressors."
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 25, 2019 17:32:51 GMT
This is a racist viewpoint, believe it or not. No it's not. It's simply acknowleding the truth that Black Panther shamelessly and excsssively uses the race card throughout the entire movie. The entire plot of Black Panthwr is "Angry black man wants to strikw back at his white oppressors." "It only won due to racial politics," is absolutely a racist viewpoint. Relax, man. Casual racism is probably the least of your character flaws.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 25, 2019 17:34:01 GMT
No it's not. It's simply acknowleding the truth that Black Panther shamelessly and excsssively uses the race card throughout the entire movie. The entire plot of Black Panthwr is "Angry black man wants to strikw back at his white oppressors." "It only won due to racial politics," is absolutely a racist viewpoint. Relax, man. Casual racism is probably the least of your character flaws. No it's not a racist viewpoint when it's the truth.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 25, 2019 17:35:19 GMT
"It only won due to racial politics," is absolutely a racist viewpoint. Relax, man. Casual racism is probably the least of your character flaws. No it's not a racist viewpoint when it's the truth.Said every racist, ever.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 25, 2019 17:40:28 GMT
in all fairness it deserved for costume design either that or the favourite.
as usual I keep it fair and balance.
I would have even preferred it if it had won for original song. the kendrick lamer's song was better than lady gaga shallow.
as for the others wins and noms considering it is the same as all mcu movies and we have factually seen better, SJW and oscer no so white anymore works here.
but that is the thing with oscars, they can be credible and they cant be credible.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 25, 2019 17:47:29 GMT
What you say carries no weight though because you're just a whiny little schmuck Hauntedknight87 scabab this sort of personal attack is still against the new rules, innit? How about a strike against this guy? ETA: or it innit? awww troll comments, double-down, then snitch. you proud of yourself?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 25, 2019 18:20:09 GMT
Hauntedknight87 scabab this sort of personal attack is still against the new rules, innit? How about a strike against this guy? ETA: or it innit? awww troll comments, double-down, then snitch. you proud of yourself? So basically you're mad that I preemptively invalidated BP's Oscars.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 25, 2019 18:21:24 GMT
awww troll comments, double-down, then snitch. you proud of yourself? So basically you're mad that I preemptively invalidated BP's Oscars. I'm not mad, and you didn't invalidate anything. I'm laughing at how ridiculous you are and seeing how you justify it.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 25, 2019 18:21:53 GMT
poutinep and Colden, why can't you two just be sweet boys?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 25, 2019 18:25:51 GMT
awww troll comments, double-down, then snitch. you proud of yourself? So basically you're mad that I preemptively invalidated BP's Oscars. So basically you're mad that Black Panther won a couple of Oscars, so you had to invalidate them to make you feel like a big boy.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 25, 2019 18:34:57 GMT
So basically you're mad that I preemptively invalidated BP's Oscars. So basically you're mad that Black Panther won a couple of Oscars, so you had to invalidate them to make you feel like a big boy. Uh, check the date on the OP, sir. I invalidated them months ago.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 25, 2019 18:37:34 GMT
So basically you're mad that I preemptively invalidated BP's Oscars. I'm not mad, and you didn't invalidate anything. I'm laughing at how ridiculous you are and seeing how you justify it.
Nah, you're mad. It's driving you crazy that I've taken all of your perceived prestige and excitement out of BP's illegitimate Oscars by preemptively declaring them null and void.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 25, 2019 18:41:56 GMT
I'm not mad, and you didn't invalidate anything. I'm laughing at how ridiculous you are and seeing how you justify it.
Nah, you're mad. It's driving you crazy that I've taken all of your perceived prestige and excitement out of BP's illegitimate Oscars by preemptively declaring them null and void. my perceived prestige? you should check my past comments on awards...they don't matter, they're just based on some group of un-special people's opinion.
oh you declared them null and void, I guess that makes it official?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 25, 2019 19:24:25 GMT
Nah, you're mad. It's driving you crazy that I've taken all of your perceived prestige and excitement out of BP's illegitimate Oscars by preemptively declaring them null and void. my perceived prestige? you should check my past comments on awards...they don't matter, they're just based on some group of un-special people's opinion.
oh you declared them null and void, I guess that makes it official?
Yep. They don't count. The correct winner for all three awards is now: "VACANT"!!11
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Feb 26, 2019 1:52:05 GMT
"It only won due to racial politics," is absolutely a racist viewpoint. Relax, man. Casual racism is probably the least of your character flaws. No it's not a racist viewpoint when it's the truth. oNot exactly. The whole "Angry black guy angry at his oppressors and wants to strike back" is a legitimate plot thread that had been used all the time in films. Just about any major films with a black lead that have to do with slavery usee that same plot thread. But also, the trope of "Angry 'x' striking at their oppressors" can literally translate to dozens of films. The X-Men series subtly uses that same plot thread, but swap out black with mutants, but you can also swap that out with "gays" as that's pretty much what the whole series has been an allegory to. So you really are being racist when you basically criticize a black character who's motivation is race and fighting back his oppressors. It's no different than saying something sexist like "Wonder Woman can't be an all powerful goddess because she's a woman". Films play up with race and gender politics all the time to use them as plot points.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 26, 2019 20:08:03 GMT
No it's not a racist viewpoint when it's the truth. oNot exactly. The whole "Angry black guy angry at his oppressors and wants to strike back" is a legitimate plot thread that had been used all the time in films. Just about any major films with a black lead that have to do with slavery usee that same plot thread. But also, the trope of "Angry 'x' striking at their oppressors" can literally translate to dozens of films. The X-Men series subtly uses that same plot thread, but swap out black with mutants, but you can also swap that out with "gays" as that's pretty much what the whole series has been an allegory to. So you really are being racist when you basically criticize a black character who's motivation is race and fighting back his oppressors. It's no different than saying something sexist like "Wonder Woman can't be an all powerful goddess because she's a woman". Films play up with race and gender politics all the time to use them as plot points. But, that being a totally separate issue, you totally support my vacating of the wins. Right?
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