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Post by runie on Mar 27, 2017 14:52:40 GMT
He is very flexible about the captain .
as there is no obvious one he has stated there isnt one.
obviously we would all ove Ali to grow up very quickly and take that position!! but at the moment - we have no stand out leader.
Kane i think is the obvious choice - but then you led to picking your captain just because and although Kane is very good - we havea lot of options there.
And i dont like Strikers(or keepers ) as captains.
pS: I think hart was the fine pick - both playing and as captain - he is playing week in week out .
so what if its at Tourino. he is playing ok. and as good as his competition.
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Post by runie on Mar 27, 2017 14:55:31 GMT
Maybe Keane could be a future captain.
He was a certain plus out of the week- and his form will certainly put him at a club of Everton minimum next season.
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Mar 27, 2017 15:07:07 GMT
The obvious choice for captain for me would be Lallana. He's experienced, he was a captain at Southampton, and is one of the few who can say they've performed well for England over the last year or more.
I don't like the idea of Kane being captain with the extra responsibility and pressure it puts on him, speaking as a Spurs fan. I can see why he'd be touted though. There aren't many England players you can say are and will be first choice in the team over a long period.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 20:13:34 GMT
The obvious choice for captain for me would be Lallana. He's experienced, he was a captain at Southampton, and is one of the few who can say they've performed well for England over the last year or more. I don't like the idea of Kane being captain with the extra responsibility and pressure it puts on him, speaking as a Spurs fan. I can see why he'd be touted though. There aren't many England players you can say are and will be first choice in the team over a long period. God no, he's bang average. I don't think it really matters that much who the captain is, if someone is shouty then a captain's armband probably wont change them, and if someone just likes to get on with the job then, again, the armband wont really change them that much. But I do have one stipulation, it should be someone who isn't that likely to be dropped. Now I don't think there is anyone in that squad who fits that bill, no one's place is secure. So failing that it should probably be someone who is established and senior, so it doesn't lead to resentment from the other lads. Joe Hart seems to have grown up a bit since his move to Italy so I'd stick with him for now, I think Southgate has got that one right. |
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Post by runie on Mar 27, 2017 22:13:34 GMT
the fact that having to pick a captain actually made us a worse team shows the lack of point in it.
yes a great leader in a great position - fine. have a captain. but i thhink stan is right in honest - if no one fits that critirea than give it to the goalie
If Ali keeps up his performance levels and his increasing maturity levels then I think he is the shoe in captain that could actually make a difference - however Only if the players around him believe in him - if they think he is a joker - he isnt right and again just give it to the keeper for no reason other than its something we have to do...
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Post by runie on Mar 27, 2017 22:15:54 GMT
Kane I think has the maturity and respect so - i think england want him as captain - however we have a lot of strikers and a lot of 10s
do we really want to play kane in every england game - even when he is on top form?
that is the concern.
I cannot see any player getting close to Ali(so he would be in everyones england team)- but Kane even as an amazing striker - we may not want to start him and play with a false 9 or a different 9 like vardy that is faster, etc
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Post by bluerisk on Mar 28, 2017 5:48:55 GMT
No, he's bloody useless runie. Granted, we were the better team against Germany, but Germany were terrible and I can only remember us creating one decent chance that fell to Alli. And let's not forget we lost that game. And Lithuania, well, I fell asleep at HT but I don't remember seeing too much to get excited about. Good work by Sterling for Defoe's goal, but that is down to individual skill rather than anything Southgate did. And also, we only drew 0-0 against Slovenia under Southgate, and we deserved to lose (albeit away from home)! Scotland beat them and pounded them (apparently), so I don't know how that game makes us look "even better". Well, we're stuck with him now, but excuse me if I don't get carried away with beating Lithuania 2-0 at home! A friendly is hardly a test that provides you with a solid feedback. Germany was awful - albeit they won, and that is what matters - but with a B team; for Löw it was merely an opportunity to offer the second row a chance to recommend themselves for higher tasks. The game against Lithuania was about points, and thus against a team which defended, which tackeld, and which opted for a very defensive strategy. For you the opportunity to develop a game set to overcome such defensive playing teams. It can makes the difference in the group stage of the great tournaments which still have weaker teams which will see their best chance in parking the bus. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 7:45:47 GMT
No, he's bloody useless runie. Granted, we were the better team against Germany, but Germany were terrible and I can only remember us creating one decent chance that fell to Alli. And let's not forget we lost that game. And Lithuania, well, I fell asleep at HT but I don't remember seeing too much to get excited about. Good work by Sterling for Defoe's goal, but that is down to individual skill rather than anything Southgate did. And also, we only drew 0-0 against Slovenia under Southgate, and we deserved to lose (albeit away from home)! Scotland beat them and pounded them (apparently), so I don't know how that game makes us look "even better". Well, we're stuck with him now, but excuse me if I don't get carried away with beating Lithuania 2-0 at home! A friendly is hardly a test that provides you with a solid feedback. Germany was awful - albeit they won, and that is what matters - but with a B team; for Löw it was merely an opportunity to offer the second row a chance to recommend themselves for higher tasks. The game against Lithuania was about points, and thus against a team which defended, which tackeld, and which opted for a very defensive strategy. For you the opportunity to develop a game set to overcome such defensive playing teams. It can makes the difference in the group stage of the great tournaments which still have weaker teams which will see their best chance in parking the bus. A monkey could have picked 11 players to beat Lithuania. This is the England manager: For that alone he should be sacked retrospectively. Although it could be worse, we could have picked Stuart Pearce. |
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Mar 28, 2017 9:53:38 GMT
The obvious choice for captain for me would be Lallana. He's experienced, he was a captain at Southampton, and is one of the few who can say they've performed well for England over the last year or more. I don't like the idea of Kane being captain with the extra responsibility and pressure it puts on him, speaking as a Spurs fan. I can see why he'd be touted though. There aren't many England players you can say are and will be first choice in the team over a long period. God no, he's bang average. I don't think it really matters that much who the captain is, if someone is shouty then a captain's armband probably wont change them, and if someone just likes to get on with the job then, again, the armband wont really change them that much. But I do have one stipulation, it should be someone who isn't that likely to be dropped. Now I don't think there is anyone in that squad who fits that bill, no one's place is secure. So failing that it should probably be someone who is established and senior, so it doesn't lead to resentment from the other lads. Joe Hart seems to have grown up a bit since his move to Italy so I'd stick with him for now, I think Southgate has got that one right. Have you not been watching Lallana this season at Liverpool, or for England? He's clearly in good form and is one of the few England players who has been above average and capable of showing some creative flair, even if his finishing is often poor. If the guy who was named POTY for England isn't someone you can rely on to be a regular in the future, as he has been for this past year, then yes truly nobody is, and that includes Joe Hart who has come off the back of a woeful Euros and is having a rather poor season at Torino. Strange you think he's a good choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 10:43:26 GMT
God no, he's bang average. I don't think it really matters that much who the captain is, if someone is shouty then a captain's armband probably wont change them, and if someone just likes to get on with the job then, again, the armband wont really change them that much. But I do have one stipulation, it should be someone who isn't that likely to be dropped. Now I don't think there is anyone in that squad who fits that bill, no one's place is secure. So failing that it should probably be someone who is established and senior, so it doesn't lead to resentment from the other lads. Joe Hart seems to have grown up a bit since his move to Italy so I'd stick with him for now, I think Southgate has got that one right. Have you not been watching Lallana this season at Liverpool, or for England? He's clearly in good form and is one of the few England players who has been above average and capable of showing some creative flair, even if his finishing is often poor. If the guy who was named POTY for England isn't someone you can rely on to be a regular in the future, as he has been for this past year, then yes truly nobody is, and that includes Joe Hart who has come off the back of a woeful Euros and is having a rather poor season at Torino. Strange you think he's a good choice. Adam Lallana? Deary me! Answer me this... who was Aston Villa's fans' player of the year last year? Yeah, you don't know, because they were complete dog shite so it's irrelevant who won it. Same with England. The only thing anyone will ever remember about the England squad last year is losing to bloody Iceland. Funnily enough, when Lallana won the award I went onto a Liverpool fans forum because I suspected some shenanigans were going on. I didn't find evidence of this, but what I did find is that even Liverpool fans are split on Lallana... right down the middle. He's a one paced shit pony. He needs a rocket up his arse and we shouldn't be accepting this mediocrity. It is hard to believe that guys like Matt Le Tissier struggled to even get into the squad, and today, players like Lallana walk into the first XI. Le Tissier had more flair in his foreskin than Lallana could ever have in a 100 lifetimes. He is everything that is wrong with the current bunch of players and he is going to be hitting 30 next May, he is not going to turn into a Del Piero or even a David Platt. An Andy Sinton maybe. |
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Post by runie on Mar 28, 2017 11:36:46 GMT
No, he's bloody useless runie. Granted, we were the better team against Germany, but Germany were terrible and I can only remember us creating one decent chance that fell to Alli. And let's not forget we lost that game. And Lithuania, well, I fell asleep at HT but I don't remember seeing too much to get excited about. Good work by Sterling for Defoe's goal, but that is down to individual skill rather than anything Southgate did. And also, we only drew 0-0 against Slovenia under Southgate, and we deserved to lose (albeit away from home)! Scotland beat them and pounded them (apparently), so I don't know how that game makes us look "even better". Well, we're stuck with him now, but excuse me if I don't get carried away with beating Lithuania 2-0 at home! A friendly is hardly a test that provides you with a solid feedback. Germany was awful - albeit they won, and that is what matters - but with a B team; for Löw it was merely an opportunity to offer the second row a chance to recommend themselves for higher tasks. The game against Lithuania was about points, and thus against a team which defended, which tackeld, and which opted for a very defensive strategy. For you the opportunity to develop a game set to overcome such defensive playing teams. It can makes the difference in the group stage of the great tournaments which still have weaker teams which will see their best chance in parking the bus. good post - agreed |
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Post by runie on Mar 28, 2017 11:49:30 GMT
Have you not been watching Lallana this season at Liverpool, or for England? He's clearly in good form and is one of the few England players who has been above average and capable of showing some creative flair, even if his finishing is often poor. If the guy who was named POTY for England isn't someone you can rely on to be a regular in the future, as he has been for this past year, then yes truly nobody is, and that includes Joe Hart who has come off the back of a woeful Euros and is having a rather poor season at Torino. Strange you think he's a good choice. Adam Lallana? Deary me! Answer me this... who was Aston Villa's fans' player of the year last year? Yeah, you don't know, because they were complete dog shite so it's irrelevant who won it. Same with England. The only thing anyone will ever remember about the England squad last year is losing to bloody Iceland. Funnily enough, when Lallana won the award I went onto a Liverpool fans forum because I suspected some shenanigans were going on. I didn't find evidence of this, but what I did find is that even Liverpool fans are split on Lallana... right down the middle. He's a one paced shit pony. He needs a rocket up his arse and we shouldn't be accepting this mediocrity. It is hard to believe that guys like Matt Le Tissier struggled to even get into the squad, and today, players like Lallana walk into the first XI. Le Tissier had more flair in his foreskin than Lallana could ever have in a 100 lifetimes. He is everything that is wrong with the current bunch of players and he is going to be hitting 30 next May, he is not going to turn into a Del Piero or even a David Platt. An Andy Sinton maybe. I think you are being a little bit harsh on Lallana - however even though his numbers have improved - I want more from an england player - If you are going to be a regukar you need that x factor. Alli has it - he has the ronaldo/zlatan ability of the mark to get to the ball before all others - that instinctive and natural raw srength - like he sees things slower.. (i am not comparing him to those two - only in that atribute) - he also has a bit of flair, but he is raw lallana is improving - his numbers show that - he also barely does much wrong - he can dribble - he can pass, he cannot killer passs and he is a bit too slow - he certainly does not have that starting of pace that is utilsed by Delle Alli anyway. Lallana is a poor mans fit wilshire imo. anyway Le tissier is a sad story - a player that would get into most teams in the world at the time - bar england - showing how far behind we were in regards to mentality. We wanted lumps over players that could play the game... |
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Mar 28, 2017 13:32:39 GMT
Terrible manager. It brings shame on English football that he gets the job.
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Post by runie on Mar 28, 2017 14:58:56 GMT
i think its perfect and low key. rather than in your face trying to buy a trophy. which can not work
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