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Post by Caesar Roberto on Oct 29, 2018 5:54:00 GMT
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Nov 6, 2018 14:53:24 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by mecano04 on Nov 6, 2018 17:55:36 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Nov 6, 2018 19:03:41 GMT
Seriously, I went through it all but right off the bat, this girl known as Lifeningblog ( lifeningblog.wordpress.com/about/, link found in the OP's article) is using some unusual definitions and somewhat expecting people to acknowledge them as universal truth or common yet at the same time she doesn't to define a few other details that would solidly anchor the argumentation. For example, in point #1, Who is the group, persons or entities she is making reference to by " Their"? Then she goes on with " We signed a lifetime contract to society (..)" First nobody did and even if I understand what she means, it's not really the way it's define usually yet she seems to want us to accept it as it is. In the same idea, in point #2: Yes, socialization is usually defined as learning and internalizing all she listed but does she realize that animals do it too? So are animals part of our system or do they have another slave system of their own? That process is something that comes naturally and is/was always there, even before we actually had a civilization. Unless you're living on your own planet and you're the only living organism on that rock, socialization will happen from interacting with others. It's not something that was created. Sure some processes might have been added by our civilization but at its core, it's not an invention. Then : It's blatantly false that there are no physical scars to prove it. From getting in a fight and getting beaten for not following the social norms (like not touching kids? I'm not saying it should be accepted. I'm just highlighting that it's not socially acceptable.) to being homeless there are physical signs of the things done against you if you won't fit in. And even then after all this, there are still some people who won't accept things a being said. The best example is her own text. How come she could even criticize it if she was humiliated, degraded and had fear in her, to the point she accepted what was being said to her as The Truth? From point #3, she starts using "They" again but quite a lot without defining it. I don't want to get into speculation but this seriously seems like simply an anti-capitalist rant (not defending capitalism, just stating what it is) at this point. She should define it or avoid using the word. She seems to really oblivious to one thing. The system she is talking about, while it's true that you have to give to be in, it also offers the exit if you play it well. Let's use her words, currency. If you have enough (being wealthy) you have enough options to be out, or not, of that system she is describing. At point #4, is she serious? Is she really oblivious to what choices (or no matter the word you want to use to define the concept she is referring to) imply? Even if you live as an hermit or recluse, if you make the choice to do something, it will imply some conditions. There is no way around it. In point #5, again, who is " They" ? The conclusion is shooting in all directions and that 22 years old should probably read more before talking as if she had it all figured out. From her About section: She sounds like an arrogant wannabe philosopher and revolutionary. From the way it's phrased it seems like she also somewhat misunderstood the quote from mister Wilde.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 15:30:28 GMT
Born to be alive! LOL!

I think its hilarious that you even remember this song!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 15:51:53 GMT
Wow! What a bunch o' curmudgeons you all are! Life is beautiful!
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 9, 2018 15:55:05 GMT
Born to be alive! LOL!

I think it hilarious that you ever remember this song! Why?
It was the first thing I thought of...
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 17:58:37 GMT
Born to be alive! LOL!

I think it hilarious that you ever remember this song! Why?
It was the first thing I thought of...
Ant-mac, you're also mecano04?!

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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Nov 9, 2018 18:00:02 GMT
Catman is a slave to the rhythm.
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Post by ant-mac on Nov 9, 2018 18:16:57 GMT
Why?
It was the first thing I thought of...
Ant-mac, you're also mecano04?!

Didn't you know...?
There's just the two of us on this website.
There's you... and I'm everyone else.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 18:23:36 GMT
Ant-mac, you're also mecano04?!

Didn't you know...?
There's just the two of us on this website.
There's you... and I'm everyone else.

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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 18:25:21 GMT
Catman is a slave to the rhythm. 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 19:12:46 GMT
I guess if we chose to not cooperate and build the society that traps us we would have never evolved into more than any other solitary speechless ape breed. Having to be part of a society is the cost of having a society.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 9, 2018 21:06:11 GMT
Wow! What a bunch o' curmudgeons you all are! Life is beautiful! It's nice for you if that's how you feel. I imagine you are wise enough to know that not everyone feels that way.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 9, 2018 21:08:04 GMT
I guess if we chose to not cooperate and build the society that traps us we would have never evolved into more than any other solitary speechless ape breed. Having to be part of a society is the cost of having a society. Would we feel worse if we were solitary speechless apes?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 21:16:02 GMT
I guess if we chose to not cooperate and build the society that traps us we would have never evolved into more than any other solitary speechless ape breed. Having to be part of a society is the cost of having a society. Would we feel worse if we were solitary speechless apes? I think I would prefer this vs being eaten by a lion at the ripe old age of 25 if given a choice of the two lives before being born. Not sure how I would "feel about things" if I were feral.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 9, 2018 21:16:06 GMT
Wow! What a bunch o' curmudgeons you all are! Life is beautiful! It's nice for you if that's how you feel. I imagine you are wise enough to know that not everyone feels that way. I'm also wise enough to know that if you were about to be killed you would fight like hell for your life. So it must be worth something. There must be some beauty in it.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 9, 2018 21:19:16 GMT
It's nice for you if that's how you feel. I imagine you are wise enough to know that not everyone feels that way. I'm also wise enough to know that if you were about to be killed you would fight like hell for your life. So it must be worth something. There must be some beauty in it. We are born with a survival instinct. It has nothing to do with beauty, and you know that.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 9, 2018 21:21:48 GMT
Would we feel worse if we were solitary speechless apes? I think I would prefer this vs being eaten by a lion at the ripe old age of 25 if given a choice of the two lives before being born. Not sure how I would "feel about things" if I were feral. It would just be the world you know. Living life until life is over.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Nov 9, 2018 21:22:43 GMT
It's nice for you if that's how you feel. I imagine you are wise enough to know that not everyone feels that way. I'm also wise enough to know that if you were about to be killed you would fight like hell for your life. So it must be worth something. There must be some beauty in it. Yeah, because we want to survive to hopefully see the day that things become better, however unlikely that is. The hope keeps us going.
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