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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 4:15:38 GMT
Please select one most important to you.
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 4:36:56 GMT
Please select one most important to you. why? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 4:42:22 GMT
Please select one most important to you. why? I do my Christmas shopping very early. You guys are slow. How about other, described: probable cause? For you how about a doll that says, "Duh"? |
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 4:55:27 GMT
I do my Christmas shopping very early. You guys are slow. How about other, described: probable cause? For you how about a doll that says, "Duh"? There are times when I think that you and several other Americans on this Board late in the American evening, are on crack cocaine, ice or LSD, or in your case...senility? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 8, 2018 8:48:38 GMT
I am waiting for people to wake up to themselves and see the bigger picture for what it is.  |
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Post by progressiveelement on Nov 8, 2018 9:27:08 GMT
The real alien overlords will be discovered by wearing modified sunglasses!
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 11:47:36 GMT
I do my Christmas shopping very early. You guys are slow. How about other, described: probable cause? For you how about a doll that says, "Duh"? There are times when I think that you and several other Americans on this Board late in the American evening, are on crack cocaine, ice or LSD, or in your case...senility? Some atheists here seem to me to pride themselves on foresight, if however sketchy. I take it you wait for the morning news. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Nov 8, 2018 12:23:25 GMT
There are times when I think that you and several other Americans on this Board late in the American evening, are on crack cocaine, ice or LSD, or in your case...senility? Some atheists here seem to me to pride themselves on foresight, if however sketchy. I take it you wait for the morning news. I get up to date feeds. 👍 |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 12:32:02 GMT
I am waiting for people to wake up to themselves and see the bigger picture for what it is. Are you able to provide exact details how anything will be different in such an event? And where? And who? I'm sure you've been asked many times, what difference? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 12:33:28 GMT
The real alien overlords will be discovered by wearing modified sunglasses! They don't have tails, that's a myth. So I've been told. I haven't seen them myself. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 8, 2018 12:36:46 GMT
I am waiting for people to wake up to themselves and see the bigger picture for what it is. Are you able to provide exact details how anything will be different in such an event? And where? And who? I'm sure you've been asked many times, what difference? Who is talking about things being different? Was that my point or yours? What is difference and compared to what? |
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Nov 8, 2018 13:38:31 GMT
This sounds like the sort of question Morden would ask.
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 20:47:01 GMT
There are times when I think that you and several other Americans on this Board late in the American evening, are on crack cocaine, ice or LSD, or in your case...senility? Some atheists here seem to me to pride themselves on foresight, if however sketchy. I take it you wait for the morning news. Seeing as I live 16 hours ahead of you, I don't need to!  |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2018 23:24:53 GMT
Are you able to provide exact details how anything will be different in such an event? And where? And who? I'm sure you've been asked many times, what difference? Who is talking about things being different? Was that my point or yours? What is difference and compared to what? In what way if any is a person different after waking up to themselves than before that? Who might be able to notice such difference if any? Themselves only? What signs might there be? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 9, 2018 0:09:43 GMT
Who is talking about things being different? Was that my point or yours? What is difference and compared to what? In what way if any is a person different after waking up to themselves than before that? Who might be able to notice such difference if any? Themselves only? What signs might there be? You tell me Arlon, it was your point. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 9, 2018 0:23:26 GMT
Some atheists here seem to me to pride themselves on foresight, if however sketchy. I take it you wait for the morning news. Seeing as I live 16 hours ahead of you, I don't need to! The international dateline is an entirely arbitrary line placed in the middle of nowhere in order to be as little nuisance as possible to civilization. I'm sure you've heard that before. Otherwise you'd be 8 hours behind me. |
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Post by goz on Nov 9, 2018 0:33:51 GMT
Seeing as I live 16 hours ahead of you, I don't need to! The international dateline is an entirely arbitrary line placed in the middle of nowhere in order to be as little nuisance as possible to civilization. I'm sure you've heard that before. Otherwise you'd be 8 hours behind me. Why would I be 8 hours behind you? In that case one of us would have to either miss an entire day or gain one, since that arbitrary line you refer to would stay in the same place in that case. Logic and critical thinking old man...NOT your forte. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 9, 2018 0:34:49 GMT
In what way if any is a person different after waking up to themselves than before that? Who might be able to notice such difference if any? Themselves only? What signs might there be? You tell me Arlon, it was your point. In my reality, however absolute, relative, subjective, objective, personal, shared or otherwise it might be, or you might count it, we are failing to communicate. I suspect it is deliberate mischief on your part. I would postulate that "waking up to oneself" (your expression, not mine) is an event without meaning, utility or consequence. Should you disagree, you are welcome to state what meaning, utility or consequence you believe such an event has. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 9, 2018 8:42:45 GMT
You tell me Arlon, it was your point. In my reality, however absolute, relative, subjective, objective, personal, shared or otherwise it might be, or you might count it, we are failing to communicate. I suspect it is deliberate mischief on your part. I would postulate that "waking up to oneself" (your expression, not mine) is an event without meaning, utility or consequence. Should you disagree, you are welcome to state what meaning, utility or consequence you believe such an event has.
Just know, that what we see as projection of our external world, this is also a projection of our internal world. Perhaps when humans DO start to wake up, the mirrored image we see, will become more genuine and wholesome, as opposed to the suffering that we see in a plethora of spades staring right back at us. Mass consciousness is very potent. Just look at political and religious extremists.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 9, 2018 10:14:34 GMT
The international dateline is an entirely arbitrary line placed in the middle of nowhere in order to be as little nuisance as possible to civilization. I'm sure you've heard that before. Otherwise you'd be 8 hours behind me. Why would I be 8 hours behind you? In that case one of us would have to either miss an entire day or gain one, since that arbitrary line you refer to would stay in the same place in that case. Logic and critical thinking old man...NOT your forte. Whether we are "ahead" or "behind" one another in time is an arbitrary accommodation to the local light. Actually it is the same "time" everywhere in the world and indeed outer space. When I wrote this message it was 10:11 a.m. Friday, November 9, 2018 UTC (a.k.a. GMT) where I am. Where you are it was also 10:11 a.m. Friday, November 9, 2018 UTC. You are neither ahead nor behind. The illusion of being ahead or behind is the result of the arbitrary adjustment of the local clock so that the amount of light we each get at 10:11 a.m. locally is similar wherever we are around the globe. In UTC it is not same amount of light obviously. The arbitrary adjustment of local clocks can be changed so that it seems I am 8 hours ahead of you just as it seems I'm 16 hours behind you now. That would require moving (not as you say staying in the same place) the arbitrary international date line. The Earth is not linear with a real start of the line and end of the line. The start of the circle is wherever you arbitrarily choose to count it. Although the international date line could be placed anywhere since it is totally arbitrary, if it were placed through communities of people it would be an inconvenience because when they cross it in the course of their activities, the day of the week would change. By placing the line in the middle of the ocean far away from communities that nuisance is avoided. This way people only cross on long ship or plane voyages. Notice the line zig zags (as only an arbitrary line could) in order to avoid islands. If the line were moved westward enough so that your location is east of it then I would be 8 hours ahead of you. However that line is not preferred because it would either change its longitude too much going north to south or cross large communities of people. You are correct that moving the line would require redefining local times, but only once unless the line is moved again. This discussion board has shown me how blithely unaware many people are of the difference between reality and definitions. There is a difference between real things and the labels we apply to them that many of you constantly fail to recognize. That you are "ahead" of me in time is a property of the label applied to local time, not a property in reality. |
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