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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 14, 2018 12:33:09 GMT
There's some truth to this. That said, some of us can have casual sex with friends without a committment. FWB can be great. I need to have some type of affection for the person though. Sex with a total stranger is nothing more than mutual masturbation AFAIC. I can get the same results from a toy but with the gurantee that it will take me where I need to go with less work. Oh of course, there are women who like to 'sleep around'. We all know that. But as you said, there has to be a personal attraction. A man can have sex with a beautiful woman and have zero feelings for her. She doesn't even have to be beautiful. |
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Post by gameboy on Nov 15, 2018 2:51:03 GMT
Oh of course, there are women who like to 'sleep around'. We all know that. But as you said, there has to be a personal attraction. A man can have sex with a beautiful woman and have zero feelings for her. She doesn't even have to be beautiful. It depends on the man. Honestly I don't give one whit about a person's personality if I'm gonna have a one night stand. That's only important in a friendship or relationship. But I need to be physically attracted to a person before I'll have sex with them. And personality can be a turn on and can make a not so pretty person a lot more purdy. But to get aroused I need to be attracted. I'm not like some guys who will hump anything with a heartbeat. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 15, 2018 3:00:08 GMT
She doesn't even have to be beautiful. It depends on the man. Honestly I don't give one whit about a person's personality if I'm gonna have a one night stand. That's only important in a friendship or relationship. But I need to be physically attracted to a person before I'll have sex with them. And personality can be a turn on and can make a not so pretty person a lot more purdy. But to get aroused I need to be attracted. I'm not like some guys who will hump anything with a heartbeat. Yeah it would vary from guy to guy. Most would, I imagine need to at least find them somewhat attractive/sexy. I don't think many would need her to be "beautiful" though (taking that as meaning very physically attractive). |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 15, 2018 12:25:43 GMT
have not really had another type of sex so i can only comment on “in love” and “loving the other person” (i consider in love being the earlier phase of loving someone) and the “in love” sex is the best. but thats a female perspective. i honestly believe guys can have just as good of a time having sex with no or limited feelings. That is an interesting point, because what exactly is being "in love"?
I can love people and things and some I have felt like I have been "in love" with them, even without sexual union, so what exactly does being "in love" mean and should it be sexual?
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Post by Nora on Nov 15, 2018 13:11:20 GMT
have not really had another type of sex so i can only comment on “in love” and “loving the other person” (i consider in love being the earlier phase of loving someone) and the “in love” sex is the best. but thats a female perspective. i honestly believe guys can have just as good of a time having sex with no or limited feelings. That is an interesting point, because what exactly is being "in love"?
I can love people and things and some I have felt like I have been "in love" with them, even without sexual union, so what exactly does being "in love" mean and should it be sexual?
I feel like it means different things to different people. To me “in love” is the first 3-6 months of the relationship, when the hormones are making you feel like you are on the top of the world and everything is awesome. “love” is a further phase that means deeper and longer lasting and more meaningful connection. the in love feeling is more intense but fades faster than love too. thats how i see it. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 15, 2018 13:36:55 GMT
That is an interesting point, because what exactly is being "in love"?
I can love people and things and some I have felt like I have been "in love" with them, even without sexual union, so what exactly does being "in love" mean and should it be sexual?
I feel like it means different things to different people. To me “in love” is the first 3-6 months of the relationship, when the hormones are making you feel like you are on the top of the world and everything is awesome. “love” is a further phase that means deeper and longer lasting and more meaningful connection. the in love feeling is more intense but fades faster than love too. thats how i see it. Nice point.
The "in love" feeling" is also in a sense naïve and even delusional. We can also express that we are "in love' with certain things we may not have a sexual affiliation too though, so "in love" when it comes sexual attraction or affiliation with others, is perhaps really only a romanticized notion of what love really is and is superficial.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 14:51:35 GMT
I feel like it means different things to different people. To me “in love” is the first 3-6 months of the relationship, when the hormones are making you feel like you are on the top of the world and everything is awesome. “love” is a further phase that means deeper and longer lasting and more meaningful connection. the in love feeling is more intense but fades faster than love too. thats how i see it. Nice point.
The "in love" feeling" is also in a sense naïve and even delusional. We can also express that we are "in love' with certain things we may not have a sexual affiliation too though, so "in love" when it comes sexual attraction or affiliation with others, is perhaps really only a romanticized notion of what love really is and is superficial.
Sex can be an expression of affection. There is a certain joy that comes with the sharing of intimacy. I have a close friend I have this with. It's the knowing and being known aspect. It doesn't have to be some romantic cliche, but simply an escape into feeling human with another person.Any animal can fuck, but making sex a tool is what separates us from the animals, for good or bad. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 15, 2018 19:25:43 GMT
There'll come a time when no one wants to fuck you, so stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and go fuck your ass off!
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Post by movieliker on Nov 16, 2018 2:39:46 GMT
im a virgin and never had sex Yes. Sex without love is great. But it gets old eventually. Sex in love is always great as long as you are still in love. |
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Post by Nora on Nov 16, 2018 5:53:35 GMT
There'll come a time when no one wants to fuck you, so stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and go fuck your ass off! hopefuly the development of decently humanoid sex robots is not too far away  thats what my hopes are for my seventies and onwards anyway... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 5:55:43 GMT
There'll come a time when no one wants to fuck you, so stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and go fuck your ass off! hopefuly the development of decently humanoid sex robots is not too far away thats what my hopes are for my seventies and onwards anyway... Like Jude Law in AI. That would be hope for the future. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 7:22:03 GMT
Definitely. Of course for me it is very different than it is for some people 'cause all of my exes were guys. I was never sexually attracted to men and while I enjoyed having sex with them there were a lot of things I wouldn't do with them which grossed me out like going down on them and I was mostly thinking about women when I was having sex with them but dating guys was a lot easier when I was younger and a lot of people were very hush hush with their sexuality back then and it isn't like it is now. I also liked getting attention from guys and the way they looked at me and after growing up with two prudish parents who abandoned me 'cause when they found out I had feelings for my best friend and my best friend's parents wouldn't let us see each other I was really depressed and would spend a lot of time crying and going to parties and having sex with my male friends was an escape from that and I felt sexy and sexually liberated. It was all just fun though and I never had any real feelings for them.
I liked my ex 'cause he was a great guy and I cared about him and we had some great times together but I didn't love him and the longer I was with him the more I discovered I could never be truly happy being with a guy. Being with my Wife now is very different 'cause I am emotionally and sexually attracted to her and I loved her since we were kids and when we have sex it is amazing and full of passion and I am willing to do a lot of things for my Wife I would never do for a guy and have discovered I can do things I didn't know I could do before. We are sexually adventurous and there an't many things we haven't tried and we have very high sex drives and have just as much sex now as we did when we first got together. 
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Post by movieliker on Nov 16, 2018 8:36:13 GMT
There'll come a time when no one wants to fuck you, so stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and go fuck your ass off! hopefuly the development of decently humanoid sex robots is not too far away thats what my hopes are for my seventies and onwards anyway... They are already here. Supposedly extremely life like. But they cost a lot. I think like 15 thousand each. The price should come down over time like all other technology. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 16, 2018 8:37:05 GMT
Definitely. Of course for me it is very different than it is for some people 'cause all of my exes were guys. I was never sexually attracted to men and while I enjoyed having sex with them there were a lot of things I wouldn't do with them which grossed me out like going down on them and I was mostly thinking about women when I was having sex with them but dating guys was a lot easier when I was younger and a lot of people were very hush hush with their sexuality back then and it isn't like it is now. I also liked getting attention from guys and the way they looked at me and after growing up with two prudish parents who abandoned me 'cause when they found out I had feelings for my best friend and my best friend's parents wouldn't let us see each other I was really depressed and would spend a lot of time crying and going to parties and having sex with my male friends was an escape from that and I felt sexy and sexually liberated. It was all just fun though and I never had any real feelings for them.
I liked my ex 'cause he was a great guy and I cared about him and we had some great times together but I didn't love him and the longer I was with him the more I discovered I could never be truly happy being with a guy. Being with my Wife now is very different 'cause I am emotionally and sexually attracted to her and I loved her since we were kids and when we have sex it is amazing and full of passion and I am willing to do a lot of things for my Wife I would never do for a guy and have discovered I can do things I didn't know I could do before. We are sexually adventurous and there an't many things we haven't tried and we have very high sex drives and have just as much sex now as we did when we first got together. Sorry your parents didn't support your homosexuality. |
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Post by Nora on Nov 16, 2018 11:11:04 GMT
hopefuly the development of decently humanoid sex robots is not too far away thats what my hopes are for my seventies and onwards anyway... They are already here. Supposedly extremely life like. But they cost a lot. I think like 15 thousand each. The price should come down over time like all other technology. those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 16:02:51 GMT
They are already here. Supposedly extremely life like. But they cost a lot. I think like 15 thousand each. The price should come down over time like all other technology. those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... And it wouldn't hurt if they also look like this:  |
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Post by Nora on Nov 16, 2018 16:08:09 GMT
those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... And it wouldn't hurt if they also look like this: Ill take two orders please! |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 16, 2018 17:20:03 GMT
They are already here. Supposedly extremely life like. But they cost a lot. I think like 15 thousand each. The price should come down over time like all other technology. those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... You mean like Data on Star Trek; The Next Generation? Well Nora, they have to walk before they can run. Supposedly, the ones they have now can hold a conversation. (Hell with the sex. I never had a problem finding real life company. I don't need a sex doll. I need a robot who can cook, clean, pay bills, go to work, and make money !!!) |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Nov 16, 2018 17:41:24 GMT
those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... You mean like Data on Star Trek; The Next Generation? Well Nora, they have to walk before they can run. Supposedly, the ones they have now can hold a conversation. (Hell with the sex. I never had a problem finding real life company. I don't need a sex doll. I need a robot who can cook, clean, pay bills, go to work, and make money !!!) LOL! You mean none of your "real life company" has ever volunteered to do all that other stuff? Smart ladies! Number 1 reason that most widowed men remarry within a year - they need someone to take care of all that hard stuff. I learned that in grief support group after my husband died. The psychologists who were in charge of the group told me that, after some widower hit on me. Just FYI, I never remarried, knowing what I knew.  |
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Post by Nora on Nov 16, 2018 18:34:44 GMT
those are still just glorified sex dolls. i am talking about the ones who can pass the turing test and actually behave indistinguishable from a human for at least a while... You mean like Data on Star Trek; The Next Generation? Well Nora, they have to walk before they can run. Supposedly, the ones they have now can hold a conversation. (Hell with the sex. I never had a problem finding real life company. I don't need a sex doll. I need a robot who can cook, clean, pay bills, go to work, and make money !!!) i havent had that problem so far either but I presume once I am 70 or 80 years old it might get real. And even though there might be some equally old people who will want to have sex with me, what if one wants to have sex with someone who looks 40-50 lets say, I am guessing that would be kind of hard to find unless its a fetish for someone or its a gigolo. So by then… and its decades away, MAYBE there will be some real progress. And yes they can cook and clean for me in between sex too |
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