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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 20:42:02 GMT
I am wondering the same thing as CoolJGS, against what? If someone is calling me names, I say "sticks and stone may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me". I usually ignore them. If someone is breaking in to my house to steal my TV, I'll help him load his car with it. I'm insured. The guy in the video rambled on for twenty minutes without really saying much. I think he should see a psychiatrist as he seems to be off kilter. Dreaming about killing people and encouraging others to do so as well seems creepy. Are Christians the only ones allowed self defense? Why not Jewish or Muslims? Isn't this guy preaching unnecessary violence? What about going to jail for vigilantism? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 12, 2018 20:47:51 GMT
hat I am wondering the same thing as CoolJGS, against what? If someone is calling me names, I say "sticks and stone may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me". I usually ignore them. If someone is breaking in to my house to steal my TV, I'll help him load his car with it. I'm insured. The guy in the video rambled on for twenty minutes without really saying much. I think he should see a psychiatrist as he seems to be off kilter. Dreaming about killing people and encouraging others to do so as well seems creepy. Are Christians the only ones allowed self defense? Why not Jewish or Muslims? Isn't this guy preaching unnecessary violence? What about going to jail for vigilantism? Against violence, Father Nelson. And no one is saying that Jews and Muslims aren't allowed self defense. There never seemed to be any moral ambiguity with them, at least not that I can remember. |
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Post by gadreel on Nov 12, 2018 20:57:02 GMT
Defend ourselves from what? zombies
Peter Jacksons second best movie |
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Post by Isapop on Nov 12, 2018 21:15:57 GMT
What about using lethal force to defend someone who is NOT a family member? Does it then suddenly become unchristian? I guess you mean like Ernest Borgnine did in that movie "Violent Saturday." My feeling on it is that if it's acceptable to use lethal force to defend a family member then it's also acceptable to use lethal force to defend someone who is NOT a family member. And if that is the case, then wouldn't it be equally acceptable for a Christian, say in 1995, to travel to Rwanda and take up arms against Hutu soldiers who were engaged in a genocide that murdered almost a million Tutsi villagers? |
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Nov 12, 2018 21:19:49 GMT
Sure, but there’s no defense against chem trails or Nibiru.
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Post by goz on Nov 12, 2018 21:22:17 GMT
I just went with 'Fuck You'
as it covers all contingencies of your epic stupid!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 2:12:57 GMT
hat I am wondering the same thing as CoolJGS, against what? If someone is calling me names, I say "sticks and stone may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me". I usually ignore them. If someone is breaking in to my house to steal my TV, I'll help him load his car with it. I'm insured. The guy in the video rambled on for twenty minutes without really saying much. I think he should see a psychiatrist as he seems to be off kilter. Dreaming about killing people and encouraging others to do so as well seems creepy. Are Christians the only ones allowed self defense? Why not Jewish or Muslims? Isn't this guy preaching unnecessary violence? What about going to jail for vigilantism? Against violence, Father Nelson. And no one is saying that Jews and Muslims aren't allowed self defense. There never seemed to be any moral ambiguity with them, at least not that I can remember. Ok. All people, regardless of faith, skin color, gender, sexual orientation etc should be allowed to use reasonable force to defend themselves if threatened. Using more force than needed will result in legal trouble. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 2:15:17 GMT
Sure, but there’s no defense against chem trails or Nibiru. There's likely a YouTube video out there instructing us how to do this. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 13, 2018 6:46:54 GMT
I just went with 'Fuck You' as it covers all contingencies of your epic stupid! I noticed two votes for that, and I suspected that one of them might be from you. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 14, 2018 9:52:57 GMT
So far it's eleven votes for Yes, three votes for No, three votes for Fuck you, and one vote for It's complicated. The poll stays active until the end of the month.
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Post by rizdek on Nov 14, 2018 12:59:37 GMT
Of course, why shouldn't they?
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Post by Isapop on Nov 14, 2018 13:35:17 GMT
What about using lethal force to defend someone who is NOT a family member? Does it then suddenly become unchristian? I guess you mean like Ernest Borgnine did in that movie "Violent Saturday." My feeling on it is that if it's acceptable to use lethal force to defend a family member then it's also acceptable to use lethal force to defend someone who is NOT a family member. C'mon, don't bail on me just when it's getting interesting. I'll repeat my question: And if that is the case, then wouldn't it be equally acceptable for a Christian, say in 1995, to travel to Rwanda and take up arms against Hutu soldiers who were engaged in a genocide that murdered almost a million Tutsi villagers?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 14, 2018 18:44:44 GMT
I guess you mean like Ernest Borgnine did in that movie "Violent Saturday." My feeling on it is that if it's acceptable to use lethal force to defend a family member then it's also acceptable to use lethal force to defend someone who is NOT a family member. C'mon, don't bail on me just when it's getting interesting. I'll repeat my question: And if that is the case, then wouldn't it be equally acceptable for a Christian, say in 1995, to travel to Rwanda and take up arms against Hutu soldiers who were engaged in a genocide that murdered almost a million Tutsi villagers?
I'm bailing on you? Your second question is more specific than the first. As long as it was a defensive action on behalf of the Tutsis, I would say yes. If you mean an offensive action against the Hutus, I would say no. Interesting enough for you? |
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Post by goz on Nov 14, 2018 21:14:01 GMT
I have relented; Here is my 'real ' answer. EVERY Christian family should have a large heavy iron cross beside the door for the head of the family ( or whoever is being threatened ) to dong the bad guy over the head. They should also have a smaller iron cross in a holster on their hip that they wear 24/7 for emergency use.  |
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Post by Isapop on Nov 14, 2018 21:33:22 GMT
C'mon, don't bail on me just when it's getting interesting. I'll repeat my question: And if that is the case, then wouldn't it be equally acceptable for a Christian, say in 1995, to travel to Rwanda and take up arms against Hutu soldiers who were engaged in a genocide that murdered almost a million Tutsi villagers?
I'm bailing on you? Your second question is more specific than the first. As long as it was a defensive action on behalf of the Tutsis, I would say yes. If you mean an offensive action against the Hutus, I would say no. Interesting enough for you? OK then, it seems that your own idea of Christianity is not especially strict when it comes to a prohibition on killing. Participating in defensive war would be allowable. Some time back a Christian (either on this or the old board) started a thread by saying Christians are prohibited from killing, no exceptions. Then, when asked about self or family defense, she said, "Oh, that's an exception. Then, when asked about defending non-family, she said, "Of course, that goes without saying." Exceptions seemed to be piling up. So I asked her the Rwanda question, and she said, "No, not allowable". I asked her how is that any different from killing in defense of someone who lives across the street? Her attempts to offer some principled difference were comically pathetic, and after they were easily shot down, she disappeared.
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