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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 13, 2018 3:57:09 GMT
There is nothing to see, because of the myopic vision of your topic. |
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 3:58:04 GMT
But the question the OP is asking is "least good actor in general." I don't disagree with your comments about Don Ameche's nomination/win for Cocoon, but what does that have to do with the OP's question. There are many great actors who have received Oscars for performances that aren't very impressive. 'Least good' still implies some valid argument and defense of that claim. How can that be found, when it is not really an absolute. It is too generalized to my mind. Even if one claims that a specific actor is not that impressive and won an Oscar, how is that consensus of the worst overall?
It needs to be in comparison to a more fixed compartment, like my Ameche example.
Funny how most people were able to come up with an answer, except you. I just don't think the question is complicated at all. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 13, 2018 4:00:31 GMT
There are many great actors who have received Oscars for performances that aren't very impressive. I'm assuming you're talking about Paul Newman for The Color of Money, Al Pacino for Scent of a Woman, etc. And that doesn't mean they are worst, just perhaps 'not deserving' compared to the other nominees, or other performances they had given.
Deserving of the award for any specific film in which they were awarded, makes more sense to counter argue, than who was the worst actor to win overall.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 13, 2018 4:03:37 GMT
There is nothing to see, because of the myopic vision of your topic. Translation: "I'm a boring idiot that likes to be a contrarian" |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 13, 2018 4:04:05 GMT
'Least good' still implies some valid argument and defense of that claim. How can that be found, when it is not really an absolute. It is too generalized to my mind. Even if one claims that a specific actor is not that impressive and won an Oscar, how is that consensus of the worst overall?
It needs to be in comparison to a more fixed compartment, like my Ameche example.
Funny how most people were able to come up with an answer, except you. I just don't think the question is complicated at all. If they gave an answer, it is only based on personal subjective opinion though of what 'they' thought was worst. How is it advocated and reasonably defended that they are the worst?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 13, 2018 4:04:44 GMT
There is nothing to see, because of the myopic vision of your topic. Translation: "I'm a boring idiot that likes to be a contrarian" The contrariness is perhaps to be found in your own mundane topic. |
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 4:06:59 GMT
Funny how most people were able to come up with an answer, except you. I just don't think the question is complicated at all. If they gave an answer, it is only based on personal subjective opinion though of what 'they' thought was worst. How is it advocated and reasonably defended that they are the worst?
Well DUH!!! The OP never said or even implied he wanted anything but people's subjective opinion. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 13, 2018 4:07:47 GMT
lowtacks86, it wasn't my intention to hijack your thread. I just broke it down due to the topic and argument that you presented, that to me, lacked a bit of insight or sense. Please continue.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 4:09:55 GMT
There are many great actors who have received Oscars for performances that aren't very impressive. No, I am talking about any performance that I personally don't think was deserving. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 13, 2018 5:52:49 GMT
I'm guessing Nicholas Cage is going to get a lot of mentions Thing is Nic Cage also delivered some truly awesome performances. I've mentioned Leaving Las Vegas and Adaptation as two favorites. And I honestly believe that he was in fact the best actor the year he won for Leaving Las Vegas. That is a truly heart breaking and monumental movie performance. But he's totally derailed his career for about 15 years or so now.
I might say Cuba Gooding won just because people could remember the line "Give me the money!" Roberto Benigni won because the movie he was in was so good, not really his performance. Don Ameche won for a career not that particular performance. So did John Wayne for that matter. Sacrilege, I know... Jean Dujardin... really? Geoffrey Rush, as good as he is, won for being in half a movie! Was Art Carney better than Al Pacino in Godfather 2 and Jack Nicholson in Chinatown? What movie was Art Carney in again?
However I cant really say any of them was the "worst" (meaning they were bad) actor.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 6:08:52 GMT
I'm guessing Nicholas Cage is going to get a lot of mentions Thing is Nic Cage also delivered some truly awesome performances. I've mentioned Leaving Las Vegas and Adaptation as two favorites. And I honestly believe that he was in fact the best actor the year he won for Leaving Las Vegas. That is a truly heart breaking and monumental movie performance. But he's totally derailed his career for about 15 years or so now.
I might say Cuba Gooding won just because people could remember the line "Give me the money!" Roberto Benigni won because the movie he was in was so good, not really his performance. Don Ameche won for a career not that particular performance. So did John Wayne for that matter. Sacrilege, I know... Jean Dujardin... really? Geoffrey Rush, as good as he is, won for being in half a movie! Was Art Carney better than Al Pacino in Godfather 2 and Jack Nicholson in Chinatown? What movie was Art Carney in again?
However I cant really say any of them was the "worst" (meaning they were bad) actor.
The scene in the interview at the end of Jerry Maguire is one of the best acted scenes of the year as far as I'm concerned and the rest of his performance is filled with passion and energy to the point where he creates a truly memorable character. It is a terrific performance that is only surpassed by Edward Norton in Primal Fear in terms of the supporting performances that year. |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 13, 2018 6:35:12 GMT
So a bad actor who has won.
Oscars aren't generally given out to bad actors.
Really? |
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Post by rudeboy on Nov 13, 2018 6:42:46 GMT
It's very hard to say, as most actors who achieve that level of celebration have their good days, albeit not necessarily the winning performance itself.
Broderick Crawford was, for the most part, a poor actor but, while I wouldn't have supported his Oscar win, many worse performances (often by better actors) have been awarded.
One of the worst performances by a then very recent Oscar-winner may be Adrien Brody, who is unspeakably bad in The Village. But his win for The Pianist was for credible work.
Difficult question. Based on career points I guess I'll go with Mira Sorvino, who has never remotely impressed me in anything.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 6:53:40 GMT
Difficult question. Based on career points I guess I'll go with Mira Sorvino, who has never remotely impressed me in anything. I actually think she is very good in Mighty Aphrodite, but besides that she has never impressed me. When picking worst actress to win an Oscar, I considered picking her. Patricia Arquette is the worst actor or actress who has ever won an Oscar imo. |
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Post by rudeboy on Nov 13, 2018 7:22:20 GMT
Difficult question. Based on career points I guess I'll go with Mira Sorvino, who has never remotely impressed me in anything. I actually think she is very good in Mighty Aphrodite, but besides that she has never impressed me. When picking worst actress to win an Oscar, I considered picking her. Patricia Arquette is the worst actor or actress who has ever won an Oscar imo. Personally I think Arquette was wonderful in Boyhood and thoroughly deserved her Oscar. I usually like her and wouldn't place her anywhere near a worst list, although she hasn't appeared in many memorable roles. |
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 13, 2018 7:40:01 GMT
I actually think she is very good in Mighty Aphrodite, but besides that she has never impressed me. When picking worst actress to win an Oscar, I considered picking her. Patricia Arquette is the worst actor or actress who has ever won an Oscar imo. Personally I think Arquette was wonderful in Boyhood and thoroughly deserved her Oscar. I usually like her and wouldn't place her anywhere near a worst list, although she hasn't appeared in many memorable roles. I wish I could say the same. Besides a couple scenes in Boyhood, I found her painfully mediocre and inconsistent. I personally consider her to be a below average actress who often ruins otherwise good movies with her unconvincing and self-aware performances. I think she is often cringe-inducing. |
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