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Post by Popeye Doyle on Nov 14, 2018 13:37:48 GMT
One that achieves it goals however modest? One with no fault in the story, acting, etc.? For example, take Raiders of the Lost Ark. The story doesn't lend itself to analysis but hits every beat, whether comedic or exciting, with exceptional rhythm to create a near flawless piece of entertainment.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 14, 2018 14:02:45 GMT
(a) I'm excited about the extent to which I'm being entertained and/or aesthetically pleased.
(b) There is nothing we could change about the film that would result in me liking it more.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Nov 14, 2018 15:05:44 GMT
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 14, 2018 15:06:41 GMT
Writing, directing, acting.
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Post by James on Nov 14, 2018 15:15:48 GMT
On top of great characters, story, effects, acting and other things, the movie is fun as hell and has high repeat value.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Nov 14, 2018 16:41:36 GMT
"What makes a perfect movie?"
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Christopher Nolan
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Post by Captain Spencer on Nov 14, 2018 16:51:59 GMT
Good, original story telling. A competent director who knows how to handle the material. And finally, the best actors who are suited to the roles.
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Post by Xcalatë on Nov 14, 2018 17:23:11 GMT
Boobies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 17:33:32 GMT
Great movies start with great characters. And great characters are three dimentional, good and bad traits, backgrounds. They need to have a personal challenge to conquer and learn about themselves, a solid character arc.
Nothing worse than a pretty good police story where everything is laid out nice and interesting, with loads of good action scenes, a solid villain, but the policeman lead is the same guy at the end of the film as the beginning inside of himself, know what I mean?
Nothing worse than a flatfoot will fallen arcs.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 14, 2018 17:49:18 GMT
Great movies start with great characters. And great characters are three dimentional, good and bad traits, backgrounds. They need to have a personal challenge to conquer and learn about themselves, a solid character arc. Nothing worse than a pretty good police story where everything is laid out nice and interesting, with loads of good action scenes, a solid villain, but the policeman lead is the same guy at the end of the film as the beginning inside of himself, know what I mean? Nothing worse than a flatfoot will fallen arcs. I often agree with you homergreg but this time I have to respectfully disagree. I'll give one example. One of my all time favorite movies and an all around excellent movie is "The Taking of Pelham 123" (1974). The main character is played by Walter Matthau and all we know about him is that he is a cop doing his job. No background, no personal challenges to conquer, no learning about himself, no personal character arc, no personal connection to the villains. Yet, the movie is riveting.
Those things you mention certainly don't always hurt a movie but they are also not always needed for a movie to be great. Also, I think some modern film makers use those things as a crutch and as a substitute for good story telling.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 17:54:48 GMT
Great movies start with great characters. And great characters are three dimentional, good and bad traits, backgrounds. They need to have a personal challenge to conquer and learn about themselves, a solid character arc. Nothing worse than a pretty good police story where everything is laid out nice and interesting, with loads of good action scenes, a solid villain, but the policeman lead is the same guy at the end of the film as the beginning inside of himself, know what I mean? Nothing worse than a flatfoot will fallen arcs. I often agree with you homergreg but this time I have to respectfully disagree. I'll give one example. One of my all time favorite movies and an all around excellent movie is "The Taking of Pelham 123" (1974). The main character is played by Walter Matthau and all we know about him is that he is a cop doing his job. No background, no personal challenges to conquer, no learning about himself, no personal character arc, no personal connection to the villains. Yet, the movie is riveting.
Those things you mention certainly don't always hurt a movie but they are also not always needed for a movie to be great. Also, I think some modern film makers use those things as a crutch and as a substitute for good story telling. Please tell me you got the line about a flatfoot with fallen arcs though! I had to work pretty hard to get that one! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 18:04:14 GMT
In order for me to give a film a perfect 10/10 , it has to have a LOT going for it. The directing , acting , characters , cinematography , editing and score have to be on point & hit all the right marks .
An example from this decade would be Drive . Literally hit all the right notes for me and left me completely blown away by it. I still consider it the best film of the decade (so far) .
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 14, 2018 18:08:11 GMT
I often agree with you homergreg but this time I have to respectfully disagree. I'll give one example. One of my all time favorite movies and an all around excellent movie is "The Taking of Pelham 123" (1974). The main character is played by Walter Matthau and all we know about him is that he is a cop doing his job. No background, no personal challenges to conquer, no learning about himself, no personal character arc, no personal connection to the villains. Yet, the movie is riveting.
Those things you mention certainly don't always hurt a movie but they are also not always needed for a movie to be great. Also, I think some modern film makers use those things as a crutch and as a substitute for good story telling. Please tell me you got the line about a flatfoot with fallen arcs though! I had to work pretty hard to get that one! Yes, I compliment your play on words. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 18:19:26 GMT
***Relatable Characters. It can be the best acting in the world, but if the characters aren't relatable, I don't care about them or their motives.
***Great Directing. There are directors who can make Channing Tatum seem like a good actor with their abilities.
***Great Acting. On the contrast to the previous point, there are actors so great... they make their director look brilliant.
***Cinematography. I don't want to be taken out of a film with poor lighting, cinematography, or inappropriate settings.
***Great Writing. I want a story with great dialogue. Something that stirs the spirit and makes you think. If I'm talking about a movie 3 or 4 days later as if I just watched it, then I know it's great.
Finally, I love attention to details. For example, when a teen has acne (not a perfect china doll with fake breasts), or dad's with a beer gut and balding hair as opposed to "The Rock" or "Mark Wahlberg" playing a suburban father... yeah right. Or if a character talks about an ailment... then later in the film they favor the ailment... stuff like that. It really makes you 'feel' as if the characters are real, and the world is real. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 18:59:23 GMT
Please tell me you got the line about a flatfoot with fallen arcs though! I had to work pretty hard to get that one! Yes, I compliment your play on words. Lol. I have to agree with you that characters don't have to be so three dimensional to make a very good film like Pelham indeed was. The films that stand out to me as the best, however, are those that create wonderful characters that are so rich and deep. These stories somehow create people that I feel I know, take me on a journey with them, and through that journey, I might learn something about myself in the process. The film that comes to my mind as a film that is as close to perfect to me as possible in this respect is "Gattaca". |
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Post by Ass_E9 on Nov 14, 2018 19:00:36 GMT
An appropriate running time.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 14, 2018 19:03:16 GMT
I think it's a matter of balance.
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Post by OldAussie on Nov 14, 2018 21:08:04 GMT
Skill and luck.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 14, 2018 23:58:19 GMT
Whatever it is, Casablanca has it !
The serious answers posted above, combined, pretty much sum up what "it" is !
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Post by ck100 on Nov 15, 2018 2:52:16 GMT
Many aspects of it are high quality.
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