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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 14, 2018 16:32:15 GMT
No, it hasn't been announced yet, but let's be real, as the sun rises, this is happening. So I'm just putting this up here now to save us all a little bit of trouble later today.
If, by some insane fucking miracle, he doesn't win, then this can be our latest version of "The Red Sox Just Moved Into Their New Season-Long Home" thread. Ahhhhh, the good old days.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 14, 2018 17:05:31 GMT
10-9. Epic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 17:10:24 GMT
where's Nola finish?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 14, 2018 18:50:22 GMT
Probably 3rd, behind Scherzer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 19:06:20 GMT
so #1, #2 and #3 are all players who missed out on the Playoffs
hmmmmmm.
interesting.
interesting indeed.
is it time we re-evaluate our stances that a dominant ace is necessary to take a team to the playoffs/deep/far in the playoffs?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 14, 2018 23:53:22 GMT
so #1, #2 and #3 are all players who missed out on the Playoffs hmmmmmm. interesting. interesting indeed. is it time we re-evaluate our stances that a dominant aceΒ is necessary to take a team to the playoffs/deep/far in the playoffs? No, it isnβt. Look at last yearβs Astros and this yearβs Red Sox. Plus the Dodgers with Kershaw. You need pitching but you need other this too, things that the Phillies and Mets lacked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 1:46:33 GMT
Deservingly so. It was insane how inept the Mets offense was. I forget the stat but there were so many games in which he gave up 1 or less runs and yet left without the Mets having a lead. There were a few games down the stretch where he himself as a hitter was responsible for the only runs scored for that team.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 15, 2018 15:33:06 GMT
Deservingly so. It was insane how inept the Mets offense was. I forget the stat but there were so many games in which he gave up 1 or less runs and yet left without the Mets having a lead. There were a few games down the stretch where he himself as a hitter was responsible for the only runs scored for that team. Putting aside the futility of the bullpen (which blew 8 leads for him this year), if the Mets had managed to score a paltry 2 runs per game in every deGrom start and the bullpen held on to, say, 4 of those 8 blown leads, he would have had 17 wins. If they scored 3 runs and applied the same bullpen rule, he would have had 22 wins. If they had scored 4 runs (hahaha, the Mets scoring 4 runs, I know, but follow me), and again having the bullpen blow 4 of the leads, he'd have gone 27-0. I know, I know, bullpens blow leads for everybody and guys get tough luck losses, but I'd never seen anybody be so consistently dominant and come away with nothing more than a notch in the "quality start" column.
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Post by Rufus-T on Nov 15, 2018 17:25:40 GMT
Congrat to deGrom. He is probably the best Mets pitcher since Doc. Though, I still don't like the idea of undermining wins.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 0:48:26 GMT
Deservingly so. It was insane how inept the Mets offense was. I forget the stat but there were so many games in which he gave up 1 or less runs and yet left without the Mets having a lead. There were a few games down the stretch where he himself as a hitter was responsible for the only runs scored for that team. Putting aside the futility of the bullpen (which blew 8 leads for him this year), if the Mets had managed to score a paltry 2 runs per game in every deGrom start and the bullpen held on to, say, 4 of those 8 blown leads, he would have had 17 wins. If they scored 3 runs and applied the same bullpen rule, he would have had 22 wins. If they had scored 4 runs (hahaha, the Mets scoring 4 runs, I know, but follow me), and again having the bullpen blow 4 of the leads, he'd have gone 27-0. I know, I know, bullpens blow leads for everybody and guys get tough luck losses, but I'd never seen anybody be so consistently dominant and come away with nothing more than a notch in the "quality start" column. Yup, I remember seeing that 27-0 type stat somewhere too, it was just insane the level of incompetence the Mets offense had during his starts. He literally had to go out there and pitch perfect baseball just to get a damn win.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 16, 2018 1:02:05 GMT
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 16, 2018 20:52:40 GMT
Congrat to deGrom. He is probably the best Mets pitcher since Doc. Though, I still don't like the idea of undermining wins. Sid Fernadez.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 16, 2018 20:53:15 GMT
At least he had a winning record. Ok with me.
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Post by Rufus-T on Nov 17, 2018 1:06:59 GMT
Congrat to deGrom. He is probably the best Mets pitcher since Doc. Though, I still don't like the idea of undermining wins. Sid Fernadez. El Sid would have been great if he had lost some weight. Out of the 80s Mets starting rotation, I thought he was the one with the stuff that most likely to throw a no-hitter. He was too fat to finish a game.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Nov 17, 2018 5:21:21 GMT
El Sid would have been great if he had lost some weight. Out of the 80s Mets starting rotation, I thought he was the one with the stuff that most likely to throw a no-hitter. He was too fat to finish a game. His fastball always looked really fast. yet was 91. an optical illusion.
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