Post by dividavi on Nov 15, 2018 0:28:11 GMT
In another thread there was this spirited exchange:
I can't think of anything he ever said that I'd disagree with when it comes to science or philosophy, at least when he was being serious and not making pithy statements for the press. You, however, are always full of shit.
Liar.
You would've been right there among the naysayers up until he 'proved' his theory.
The proper thing to have done with Einstein when he proposed his theory would be to say that it looks promising but that final judgment would have to be deferred until there was experimental corroboration of its correctness. Lots of people, including physicists, had proposed theories that turned out to be incorrect. Friedrich Hasenöhrl of Austria came up with something quite close to E=mc^2, but not exactly:
Einstein came up with the correct formula a few months after Hasenöhrl but it couldn't be proved true until later experiments.
From what I've read there were those who questioned whether the Wright brothers had successfully flown a heavier than air machine as they had claimed. In 1906 skeptics in the European aviation community had converted the press to an anti-Wright brothers stance. European newspapers, especially those in France, were openly derisive, calling them bluffeurs (bluffers).[97] Ernest Archdeacon, founder of the Aéro-Club de France, was publicly scornful of the brothers' claims in spite of published reports; specifically, he wrote several articles and, in 1906, stated that "the French would make the first public demonstration of powered flight".[98] The Paris edition of the New York Herald summed up Europe's opinion of the Wright brothers in an editorial on February 10, 1906: "The Wrights have flown or they have not flown. They possess a machine or they do not possess one. They are in fact either fliers or liars. It is difficult to fly. It's easy to say, 'We have flown.'"[97] In 1908, after the Wrights' first flights in France, Archdeacon publicly admitted that he had done them an injustice.[98]
There were plenty of fakers around in the early 20th Century so informed people were skeptical. Back then there were bullshitters who proclaimed all kinds of absurdities like homeopathic medicine, telepathy, communicating with ghosts and other stuff. The charlatans who claim such nonsense to be true are still with us, unfortunately.
I have no doubt you'd be telling Einstein he was full of shit.
You would've been right there among the naysayers up until he 'proved' his theory.
The proper thing to have done with Einstein when he proposed his theory would be to say that it looks promising but that final judgment would have to be deferred until there was experimental corroboration of its correctness. Lots of people, including physicists, had proposed theories that turned out to be incorrect. Friedrich Hasenöhrl of Austria came up with something quite close to E=mc^2, but not exactly:
Einstein came up with the correct formula a few months after Hasenöhrl but it couldn't be proved true until later experiments.
From what I've read there were those who questioned whether the Wright brothers had successfully flown a heavier than air machine as they had claimed. In 1906 skeptics in the European aviation community had converted the press to an anti-Wright brothers stance. European newspapers, especially those in France, were openly derisive, calling them bluffeurs (bluffers).[97] Ernest Archdeacon, founder of the Aéro-Club de France, was publicly scornful of the brothers' claims in spite of published reports; specifically, he wrote several articles and, in 1906, stated that "the French would make the first public demonstration of powered flight".[98] The Paris edition of the New York Herald summed up Europe's opinion of the Wright brothers in an editorial on February 10, 1906: "The Wrights have flown or they have not flown. They possess a machine or they do not possess one. They are in fact either fliers or liars. It is difficult to fly. It's easy to say, 'We have flown.'"[97] In 1908, after the Wrights' first flights in France, Archdeacon publicly admitted that he had done them an injustice.[98]
There were plenty of fakers around in the early 20th Century so informed people were skeptical. Back then there were bullshitters who proclaimed all kinds of absurdities like homeopathic medicine, telepathy, communicating with ghosts and other stuff. The charlatans who claim such nonsense to be true are still with us, unfortunately.
