OT: New Spider-Man: Homecoming trailer

Wait a second, how could MCU have their run while DCEU was being planned when according to you, DCEU was created in 1984?

I can't say the same. I've seen plenty of god-awful movies that were a complete waste of time.



Just as I'm always objective and unbiased on the subject of sports, I'm also always objective and unbiased on the subject of movies. I've seen all the Batman movies and Batman & Robin wasn't very good. But BvS was a great movie, definitely better than Civil War and any other MCU movie.



I didn't dislike Captain America until Civil War, when he basically acted like an arrogant tyrant in that movie. Dumbass critics who are biased in favor of Civil War wrote BS articles about how Civil War was able to show that both sides (pro-UN oversight of the Avengers vs anti-UN oversight of the Avengers) had a valid point. That's complete BS.

Captain America's argument against UN oversight of the Avengers was "the safest hands are still our own". That's BULLSHIT! Tony Stark had built Ultron, which killed many people. Hulk and Iron Man had destroyed a city in South Africa and killed many people. And Scarlett Witch had caused a building to explode, killing many people. So NO, the safest hands aren't their own. It's obvious from the amount of collateral damage and civilian deaths caused by the Avengers that the Avengers aren't capable of policing themselves and therefore oversight is clearly needed.

But the reason Captain America doesn't want UN oversight of the Avengers is because Captain America doesn't want the Avengers to be held responsible for the collateral damage and civilian deaths that they caused and doesn't want the Avengers to have to answer to the people. So Captain America gives this bullshit about how they know what's best for the people and how they alone should decide what's best for the people instead of the elected representatives of the people. Well, Hitler and Stalin also believed that they knew what's best for the people and believed that they should decide what's best for the people. Captain America wanted to be a tyrant, just like Hitler and Stalin.

That's 1 of the reasons why I prefer the DCEU to the MCU. There have been 7 Superman movies. Superman has done some amazing things, but I think the most heroic thing that Superman has done in any of the 7 Superman movies was in Man of Steel when Superman surrendered himself to the custody of the U.S. government and allowed himself to be handcuffed. And in BvS, when Superman was summoned to appear before a Congressional hearing, Superman showed up even though the government had no way of forcing him to. Superman is the most powerful person on the planet, but he showed that he didn't want to be a tyrant or dictator and showed that he respected the authority of the people.

By contrast, the Avengers act like tyrants and dictators and refuse to respect the authority of the people. For example,

1. Iron Man was requested by a congressional hearing to turn over the Iron Man suit to the US government. It was a perfectly reasonable and legal request, given the fact that Tony Stark's company had previously sold weapons of mass destruction to terrorists (who used those weapons to kill a convoy of US soldiers who ironically were protecting Tony Stark) and given the fact that the Iron Man suit was basically a weapon of mass destruction that had more destructive capability than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined, so naturally the US government doesn't want such a powerful weapon to fall into the hands of terrorists, like many of the other weapons of mass destruction built by Tony Stark's company had. But Stark refused to turn over the Iron Man suit and walked out on a congressional hearing, which is basically contempt of Congress.

2. Black Widow testifies in front of a congressional hearing and basically tells them "You can't arrest me because I'm an Avenger and we're more powerful than you so we can do whatever the hell we want to do and you can't arrest us or stop us."

3. Hulk and Iron Man destroy a city in Africa and kill many people. But instead of surrendering themselves to the authorities to answer for the deaths and damage that they caused, they flee from the city like fugitives and hide out at Hawkeye's house like common criminals.



I thought those were all crappy movies.



I like the Tobey Maguire Spiderman movies. Not so much the Andrew Garfield Spiderman movies, but they weren't as crappy as the Avengers and the rest of the MCU movies. I also like X-Men: Apocalypse and the first Fantastic Four movie (with Ioan Gruffeld and Jessica Alba), but not the last Fantastic Four movie (with Miles Teller and Kata Mara). That last Fantastic Four movie was 1 of the worst CBMs ever made and is an example of a movie that was a complete waste of 2 hours.



The villain (the Vulture) looks underwhelming, like most of MCUs villains. Spiderman (along with Batman, Superman, and the Flash) has a long inventory of great villains so they had plenty of great villains to choose from. But in typical MCU fashion, MCU chooses an underwhelming villain like Vulture. It would be like DC making a Batman movie where the main villains were Tweedledee and Tweedledum. There are so many better villains to choose from.



No need to apologize for stating your opinion.

This is why it's not worth trying to have a real discussion with his crippled, ginger ass.  Just make fun of him.  If Tom Brady were to cure cancer, he'd spend a lifetime saying how Brady actually ruined the planet because the cure causes over-population.  DC could make a movie of all of their executives facing a camera, and just giving the finger to the audience for two hours, and he'd hail it as a masterpiece.  

After all these years, how do people STILL argue with him? It's like crying about being put on the Sandusky lists.  For fucks' sake, TimLincecum55 remained on the list for a good 5 years after he stopped posting.  People are dense. 

Spot on, yet there will always be people who do.  I'll never understand those who legitimately attempting to argue with him with logic, when he clearly does not even try to be logical, and is clearly playing a game.