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Post by millar70 on Nov 19, 2018 5:00:19 GMT
Science and God are two perspectives of the same truth. I can't pick one without picking the other. yes yesss. yessss.. this right here is the enthralling dialogue I was looking for apes. please go into detail have you (or any of you caveman here) ever heard of Henry David Thoreau? I think he was a running back for the 1973 St Louis Cardinals.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 19, 2018 5:01:36 GMT
Well, US is the country that has most vocal deniers of anthropogenic global warming. Part of the problem would be democrat party supporters in not being considerate in talking about the issue. Natural disasters have always occurred. We have had floods, storms, volcanoes, ice-age and what not since billions of years. Saying man is "more" responsible than nature is incorrect. Natural disasters had been happening even before homo sapiens evolved. Yeah, you would be correct in saying humans should curtail their activities of destroying ecosystem and polluting the atmosphere if they don't want to create greater chances of natural disasters happening. Any conservative will take your statement and brush it off as being too naive and thus add to the problem of global climate change denial. Floods and ice ages all occur on geological times scales, not 50 or 100 or 150 years. And you can adjust for variation to see trends. fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-californias-wildfires-are-so-destructive-in-5-charts/There's only one species clearing massive rainforests, removing natural barriers, flushing toxic waste, sending countless species into extinction, and unleashing nuclear power in the form of bombs and accidents. Now we're causing earthquakes by fracking. I am not talking about any Bible flood or global flood. The normal floods that regularly occur due to monsoon or overflow of river water. They do not occur on geological time scales. There's not an year in my life that a flood didn't occur in my home province. Obviously man is responsible and his activities accelerate natural disasters. But that said I am talking about the way you put your last post which seems to downplay the part nature plays in natural disasters. Yes, you can say that man has increasingly put himself in risky areas in last 100 years where natural disturbances occur frequently and thus creates significantly more natural disaster these days (because more people die as a result of being in risky areas). Adding to that since last 30 or 40 years agencies have been looking for more natural disasters and thus we have more natural disasters classified now than they was 40 years ago. Not to forget the hype that media creates. Yes, man is creating all sorts of problems. But how you explain it to deniers of global climate change is also important. Especially in US, which is the bastion of global climate change deniers.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 19, 2018 5:08:32 GMT
Science is just a way of gaining knowledge through observation and investigation. I have no idea how an inanimate thing is responsible for natural disasters.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 19, 2018 12:28:42 GMT
Floods and ice ages all occur on geological times scales, not 50 or 100 or 150 years. And you can adjust for variation to see trends. fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-californias-wildfires-are-so-destructive-in-5-charts/There's only one species clearing massive rainforests, removing natural barriers, flushing toxic waste, sending countless species into extinction, and unleashing nuclear power in the form of bombs and accidents. Now we're causing earthquakes by fracking. I am not talking about any Bible flood or global flood. The normal floods that regularly occur due to monsoon or overflow of river water. They do not occur on geological time scales. There's not an year in my life that a flood didn't occur in my home province. Obviously man is responsible and his activities accelerate natural disasters. But that said I am talking about the way you put your last post which seems to downplay the part nature plays in natural disasters. Yes, you can say that man has increasingly put himself in risky areas in last 100 years where natural disturbances occur frequently and thus creates significantly more natural disaster these days (because more people die as a result of being in risky areas). Adding to that since last 30 or 40 years agencies have been looking for more natural disasters and thus we have more natural disasters classified now than they was 40 years ago. Not to forget the hype that media creates. Yes, man is creating all sorts of problems. But how you explain it to deniers of global climate change is also important. Especially in US, which is the bastion of global climate change deniers. Ah, I just see the idea of "responsibility" for a "disaster" as being an arrogant concept, based on man's self-importance and victim mentality. As you say, these events were happening for eons, but they weren't disasters, as that implies victimhood. If an uninhabited island with just flora, and even fauna, disappears, that's not a disaster. And many people here feel like a killing monsoon in the middle of India is not really a disaster, as those people aren't our people, and they somehow signed up for it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 19, 2018 13:27:56 GMT
So maybe heaven is a ghetto with no bad blocks Shangri-La dealers at the bus stops And maybe god is just a cop that we can fast talk So if you're guilty and you know it, put your hands up 'Cause karma's just a different word for bad luck And what if death is just another pair of handcuffs? Then we'd better run
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 19, 2018 13:35:30 GMT
So maybe heaven is a ghetto with no bad blocks Not like all my dead hard drives.
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