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Post by hi224 on Nov 18, 2018 13:05:35 GMT
So many have been recorded as well.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 18, 2018 16:23:54 GMT
(Other than the first, I’m trying to list lesser-known mysteries.)
Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday.
I think the Ourang Medan has been debunked.
Manfred Fritz Bajorat.
The rowboat of Bouvet Island.
Kaz II.
The bizarre fate of the crew of the Casie Nicole.
The Indiana Dunes disappearance.
The Marlborough.
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Post by hi224 on Nov 19, 2018 15:37:47 GMT
(Other than the first, I’m trying to list lesser-known mysteries.) Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday. I think the Ourang Medan has been debunked. Manfred Fritz Bajorat. The rowboat of Bouvet Island. Kaz II. The bizarre fate of the crew of the Casie Nicole. The Indiana Dunes disappearance. The Marlborough. wasn't Kaz pretty much summed up as a storm incident basically?. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 19, 2018 15:43:59 GMT
(Other than the first, I’m trying to list lesser-known mysteries.) Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday. I think the Ourang Medan has been debunked. Manfred Fritz Bajorat. The rowboat of Bouvet Island. Kaz II. The bizarre fate of the crew of the Casie Nicole. The Indiana Dunes disappearance. The Marlborough. wasn’t Kaz pretty much summed up as a storm incident basically?. I’m pretty sure it’s still considered unsolved. The coroner’s report summed it up as a “freak accident” but didn’t reach any definite conclusions. |
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Post by MCDemuth on Nov 19, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday. In my opinion... I don't think the Mary Celeste incident is really as mysterious as most people make it out to be... Especially since it had nothing to do with the Bermuda Triangle, which many people have associated it with... On the December 2, 1994 episode of "Unsolved Mysteries", the Mary Celeste incident was featured as one of the segments... I think this theory that they came up with... is a very good explanation, based on the evidence, which makes a lot of sense: This part is a bit hard to explain though, but is probably just a coincidence, and that it was somehow damaged during the storm. But then again, UFOs could have scooped everyone up too... LOL! |
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Post by cwsims on Nov 20, 2018 2:38:35 GMT
the mary celeste is very creepy
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Post by cwsims on Nov 20, 2018 2:49:37 GMT
Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday. In my opinion... I don't think the Mary Celeste incident is really as mysterious as most people make it out to be... Especially since it had nothing to do with the Bermuda Triangle, which many people have associated it with... On the December 2, 1994 episode of "Unsolved Mysteries", the Mary Celeste incident was featured as one of the segments... I think this theory that they came up with... is a very good explanation, based on the evidence, which makes a lot of sense: This part is a bit hard to explain though, but is probably just a coincidence, and that it was somehow damaged during the storm. But then again, UFOs could have scooped everyone up too... LOL! someone mentioned on another site if fumes from cargo were the reason for leaving why didn't they just dump the cargo overboard instead of leaving in a tiny cramped lifeboat |
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Post by MCDemuth on Nov 20, 2018 3:12:11 GMT
someone mentioned on another site if fumes from cargo were the reason for leaving why didn't they just dump the cargo overboard instead of leaving in a tiny cramped lifeboat Well, I think the crew were afraid of the ship, blowing up... By what ignition source, I can't say... and they probably didn't think they had much time to do anything other than "abandoning" ship and waiting for the cargo hold to vent it's fumes... It seems they left SO fast, that not all of the sails had been lowered on the ship, and no one even considered leaving a message in the "Captain's Log", noting what was going on... I would assume, the crew expected the cargo hold to vent, and then they would get back on board. But, since some of the sails were still up... It has been suggested that perhaps a gust of wind came up and made the ship lurch forward and snapped the tow cable that tied the lifeboat to the ship... This wind made the ship sail away faster than the rowboat could keep up, and the helpless crew watched their ship sail on without them... Being in just a lifeboat, in the middle of the ocean, is usually considered to be a death sentence. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 6:07:30 GMT
The only thing with the Mary Celeste being rapidly abandoned with a view to getting back on board, is that it would be a quick job to loose the sails to stop her running on. If sails were still up, I would imagine she was abandoned with no wish to get back aboard.
Plus the captain took his sextant. Sounds like they abandoned ship with no intention to return to her.
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Post by cwsims on Nov 20, 2018 19:36:04 GMT
someone mentioned on another site if fumes from cargo were the reason for leaving why didn't they just dump the cargo overboard instead of leaving in a tiny cramped lifeboat Well, I think the crew were afraid of the ship, blowing up... By what ignition source, I can't say... and they probably didn't think they had much time to do anything other than "abandoning" ship and waiting for the cargo hold to vent it's fumes... It seems they left SO fast, that not all of the sails had been lowered on the ship, and no one even considered leaving a message in the "Captain's Log", noting what was going on... I would assume, the crew expected the cargo hold to vent, and then they would get back on board. But, since some of the sails were still up... It has been suggested that perhaps a gust of wind came up and made the ship lurch forward and snapped the tow cable that tied the lifeboat to the ship... This wind made the ship sail away faster than the rowboat could keep up, and the helpless crew watched their ship sail on without them... Being in just a lifeboat, in the middle of the ocean, is usually considered to be a death sentence. another argument its been said all the cargo was still intact there were no leaks or anything. that said perhaps something sinister did happen aboard the ship and whomever or whatever was responsible successfully erased any trace of evidence |
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Post by cwsims on Nov 20, 2018 19:37:48 GMT
The only thing with the Mary Celeste being rapidly abandoned with a view to getting back on board, is that it would be a quick job to loose the sails to stop her running on. If sails were still up, I would imagine she was abandoned with no wish to get back aboard. Plus the captain took his sextant. Sounds like they abandoned ship with no intention to return to her. there were also several of the ships papers missing. but items such as clothing. food etc were left on the ship they most likely did plan on returning if they really left on their own accord |
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Post by cwsims on Nov 20, 2018 19:42:25 GMT
speaking of which there also reportedly strange scratch marks found on the side of the ship that suggested squid attack. but again why leave in a tiny lifeboat if a killer squid was in the area
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Post by hi224 on Nov 20, 2018 19:55:20 GMT
(Other than the first, I’m trying to list lesser-known mysteries.) Well, the Mary Celeste, obviously. It was found, by the way, on December 5, 1872–the 5th of December being yours truly’s birthday. I think the Ourang Medan has been debunked. Manfred Fritz Bajorat. The rowboat of Bouvet Island. Kaz II. The bizarre fate of the crew of the Casie Nicole. The Indiana Dunes disappearance. The Marlborough. we could make a thread about celeste and rowboat basically lol, so much rich mystery here as well. |
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Post by JHA Durant on Dec 10, 2018 6:57:16 GMT
The MV Joyita, also known as the Mary Celeste of the South Pacific.
There had been 25 people on board, and all were missing.
It had floated way off-course from where it was supposed to be sailing from over a one month period.
Part of the ship was damaged and it was listing heavily to port.
Every electric clock on the boat was stopped at 10:25pm.
The ships logbook, sextant, mechanical chronometer and some guns the captain was known to have on the boat were missing.
A doctor's bag was found full of blood-stained bandages.
No distress signal was ever sent despite the radio being set to the international emergency channel. The radio was also damaged enough to limit the range of any broadcast.
All 4 life rafts were missing.
No trace of any of the crew was ever found. The most likely theory is that there was a mutiny as it was well known that the captain and his first mate didn't get along.
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Post by cwsims on Dec 11, 2018 15:42:11 GMT
The MV Joyita, also known as the Mary Celeste of the South Pacific. There had been 25 people on board, and all were missing. It had floated way off-course from where it was supposed to be sailing from over a one month period. Part of the ship was damaged and it was listing heavily to port. Every electric clock on the boat was stopped at 10:25pm. The ships logbook, sextant, mechanical chronometer and some guns the captain was known to have on the boat were missing. A doctor's bag was found full of blood-stained bandages. No distress signal was ever sent despite the radio being set to the international emergency channel. The radio was also damaged enough to limit the range of any broadcast. All 4 life rafts were missing. No trace of any of the crew was ever found. The most likely theory is that there was a mutiny as it was well known that the captain and his first mate didn't get along.another argument against this theory if the crew mutinied why did they abandon the ship and leave behind their possessions! ? |
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Post by JHA Durant on Dec 12, 2018 6:31:43 GMT
The MV Joyita, also known as the Mary Celeste of the South Pacific. There had been 25 people on board, and all were missing. It had floated way off-course from where it was supposed to be sailing from over a one month period. Part of the ship was damaged and it was listing heavily to port. Every electric clock on the boat was stopped at 10:25pm. The ships logbook, sextant, mechanical chronometer and some guns the captain was known to have on the boat were missing. A doctor's bag was found full of blood-stained bandages. No distress signal was ever sent despite the radio being set to the international emergency channel. The radio was also damaged enough to limit the range of any broadcast. All 4 life rafts were missing. No trace of any of the crew was ever found. The most likely theory is that there was a mutiny as it was well known that the captain and his first mate didn't get along.another argument against this theory if the crew mutinied why did they abandon the ship and leave behind their possessions! ? Maybe they were held at gunpoint by someone and were ordered off the boat, and thus couldn't take anything with them? I don't necessarily believe that theory, but surely a "rouge wave" couldn't be entirely blamed for this one. There is another theory that they happened upon a holdout of Japanese soldiers who kidnapped/killed them and set the boat adrift, so there are crazier theories out there. |
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