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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 21, 2018 11:00:05 GMT
What would you say is the darkest, coldest, bleakest western film you've seen/are aware of?
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 21, 2018 11:37:08 GMT
HIGH NOON would rate pretty high on such a list.
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Post by nostromo on Nov 21, 2018 11:42:18 GMT
Got to be - No Country for Old Men
Also:
The Rover
Dead Man
A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night
The Proposition
High Plains Drifter
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 21, 2018 11:56:44 GMT
Got to be - No Country for Old Men Also: The Rover Dead Man A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night The Proposition High Plains Drifter Suspected a lot would be newer (non-classic period) films |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 21, 2018 11:57:38 GMT
HIGH NOON would rate pretty high on such a list. Good pick. Probably the best I could come up with from the classic era. |
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Post by timshelboy on Nov 21, 2018 11:59:10 GMT
OX BOW INCIDENT was my first thought.
BONE TOMAHAWK and THE MISSING (2003) from more modern times.
THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS (any version) is pretty dark - lots of the characters buy the farm and some in quite spectacular and painful fashion.
Is THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE a western?
Oh - and THE SALVATION - viewed a month ago - offers a bleak and salvation free western vision. I'd never heard of it but strong cast attracted me and it was only a quid in a charity shop - I was hooked throughout - stylishly designed and imaginatively shot to boot ...but definitely on the darker fringes of the genre.
I'm sure you could make a case for SOLDIER BLUE
And lets not forget the "modern" western - THE MISFITS, HUD and THE LAST PICTURE SHOW paint pretty dark portraits of their worlds. |
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 21, 2018 13:00:06 GMT
Yes, Tim -- OX-BOW certainly!
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Nov 21, 2018 13:26:24 GMT
Once Upon a Time in the West went to the edge!
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Post by biker1 on Nov 21, 2018 13:48:19 GMT
I guess a number of winter westerns are both visually and thematically bleak..
track of the cat (1954)
the claim (2000-uk)
day of the outlaw (1959)
the great silence (1968-it)
elsewhere..
one-eyed jacks (1961)
pursued (1947)
the naked spur (1953)
terror in a texas town (1958)
the salvation (2014)
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 21, 2018 15:27:54 GMT
OX BOW INCIDENT was my first thought.
BONE TOMAHAWK and THE MISSING (2003) from more modern times.
THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS (any version) is pretty dark - lots of the characters buy the farm and some in quite spectacular and painful fashion.
Is THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE a western?
Oh - and THE SALVATION - viewed a month ago - offers a bleak and salvation free western vision. I'd never heard of it but strong cast attracted me and it was only a quid in a charity shop - I was hooked throughout - stylishly designed and imaginatively shot to boot ...but definitely on the darker fringes of the genre.
I'm sure you could make a case for SOLDIER BLUE
And lets not forget the "modern" western - THE MISFITS, HUD and THE LAST PICTURE SHOW paint pretty dark portraits of their worlds. Agree with what you say about "The Salvation." I liked the phrase "salvation free western vision." It is an interesting way to make a western: a Danish film company and director, actors from all over the world, and location filming in South Africa - sort of a riff on the international film making style of the pasta based westerns of the late '60s. Even though the level of violence could not have been shown during Hollywood’s period of great westerns, “The Salvation” is still in the American revenge western tradition. This film is ideal for those of us who think that the time between Hollywood westerns takes way too long. In Danish and English. With Mads Mikkelsen, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, and Eva Green. |
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Post by vegalyra on Nov 21, 2018 16:18:31 GMT
From a code era standpoint Man of the West and Man from Laramie have some dark moments.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 21, 2018 16:30:11 GMT
I've heard of one spaghetti western called the Great Silence that is already extremely bleak and then actually ends with the hero and other characters being massacred by the villain(s). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 16:40:12 GMT
Fort Apache, 1948
The Missing, 2003
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Post by Dramatic Look Gopher on Nov 21, 2018 17:03:07 GMT
Cut-Throats Nine (1972)
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Post by politicidal on Nov 21, 2018 17:24:47 GMT
Also there's Diablo and The Duel (both 2016). Avoid Diablo though, it's awful.
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Post by OldAussie on Nov 21, 2018 17:52:43 GMT
2 of Gregory Peck's best films are pretty dark westerns -
The Bravados
The Gunfighter
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 21, 2018 23:09:13 GMT
Would 'Last Man Standing' be considered a western?
I also consider Pale Rider dark.
And Hang 'em High is no joyride.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 23:22:37 GMT
Oh my! Unforgiven for me by a country mile!
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Post by koskiewicz on Nov 22, 2018 0:26:09 GMT
Wild Bunch
Last Train From Gun Hill
Bone Tomahawk
The Searchers
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Nov 22, 2018 0:47:48 GMT
OX BOW INCIDENT was my first thought.
BONE TOMAHAWK and THE MISSING (2003) from more modern times.
THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS (any version) is pretty dark - lots of the characters buy the farm and some in quite spectacular and painful fashion.
Is THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE a western?
Oh - and THE SALVATION - viewed a month ago - offers a bleak and salvation free western vision. I'd never heard of it but strong cast attracted me and it was only a quid in a charity shop - I was hooked throughout - stylishly designed and imaginatively shot to boot ...but definitely on the darker fringes of the genre.
I'm sure you could make a case for SOLDIER BLUE
And lets not forget the "modern" western - THE MISFITS, HUD and THE LAST PICTURE SHOW paint pretty dark portraits of their worlds. Agree with what you say about "The Salvation." I liked the phrase "salvation free western vision." It is an interesting way to make a western: a Danish film company and director, actors from all over the world, and location filming in South Africa - sort of a riff on the international film making style of the pasta based westerns of the late '60s. Even though the level of violence could not have been shown during Hollywood’s period of great westerns, “The Salvation” is still in the American revenge western tradition. This film is ideal for those of us who think that the time between Hollywood westerns takes way too long. In Danish and English. With Mads Mikkelsen, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, and Eva Green. Sounds great, will keep that one in mind. |
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